Hethwill, the Red Duke

Correct Wraith, just looking to the hard facts here, from what admin wrote and making up my own mind with this new reality, kind of thinking aloud. o7

I think we must look to the scenario not as solo, but as a group player. 2 captains are a team already. 1 captain is a victim. The rearrangement of ability to teleport out closes all doors. No more alt'ing teleport or capture teleport. While innocent bystanders may not notice this, the big fish notice it very well. You sail your indiamans. Other don't. They make more with less while you are in the line of fire. Now everyone is on the line of fire.

Fair enough Sir. Fair winds. May peace fall upon the Caribbean one day and we all sail in peace...without danger...

@Nuka You can check the recording of the stream of yesterday. 1 Snow, 2 Princes, 1 Xebec, 1 Hercules. ROVER, R0VER, R8VER. Pirates, prussians, americans. Like another spanish fellow said the other day "rovery brits in prussian nation flying pirate flags". Best description ever. My handle is the same everywhere, nothing to hide. Snappy salute.

Using a shop Snow Rest of the guys are a mix of Xebecs, Herc, and Princes. Argument more than valid when a shop Snow ( Oak Crew Space ) plus a Prince, int he very first battle face a Aggammenon and win by the skin of their bones. Now she is of age. She deserved a few captured refits, but remains a shop build. Have fun with your game. I know what I do with mine.

Maths.Hull length, speed, water pressure, turn radius, turn speed. That's what rules a ship, not the opposing ship model. But you have a BIG score point - warning shots would happen. Enemy ship would never be allowed to close as much like we have in the tag. So instead of "world of balancing things by comparing one with one" it is better to try a new OW RoE where the inner circle is expanded, so you never ever spawn inside warning shot distance. There's a major difference. A 70 crew ship does not put 70 crew on the boarding screen for calculation He did place 20 at first, and then reinforced in phases. The defender was freaking determined and had no other choice but to fight with everything they had.

There are extreme examples in history that prove that, as a rule, certain things should not happen alas they did. What we should question is - can we simulate them in NA combat ? I did share two examples from history that I find really difficult to mimic in NA but that doesn't mean I will not be able to do in 1 battle out of 10k, but only in the future. http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/26577-privateer-pulteney-against-the-xebecs/ http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/26578-trader-with-a-rover-heart/

Also note that ships were not at Full sails, nor would they sharp corner the wind at Full sails. Alas, we do "fly" the wind at all times, including fierce battle, at Full. Maybe that's why they are sailing that slow in a confined space. We have, yet, nothing like that in NA.

Would never have bought it if it required that. First of all, and after so many hours and years playing all my ships were built by others or, better, crafted as thank you tokens or simply captured from the enemy. The DLC simple "removed" the need for a fence to fix me. And by that I say, it fixed a lot of solo play - which whether you want or not is the majority of players. e.g. login during the weekend, sail and fight during a nice afternoon. Logoff. But I totally agree on the "special woods" being readily available to build it. I am not sailing the DLCs for the moment being. Waiting sitting on my hands watching the evolution. But hat's my own decision, and mine alone. I rather play a sim than a gear based mmo. Gladly I still can play other ships and go roving with the gang.

Don't you dare touch my Bellona, my Inger, my Buc...my fun!!!!! ! 🙉...

@Abraham van Riebeeck Got a Xebec shot from under me not long ago by a Bellona that, by luck or pure pro aim, put 14 leaks into me. Granted, it is not the norm but rather the exception that proves the rule. The Xebec commanded by @z4ys was extremely focused and you guys made the right call. We were gambling on switching the targets when the Buc came racing down, and mistakes were made. Or maybe not, it became a choice of the lesser evil. But.. The puzzle is broken and if you care to watch many battles being recorded and streamed out there the puzzle is always solved by - rush, glue to the bow, angled, out DPS or use the sail force to push, and kill. Some players still retain a sim approach to the battles, others just wish for a infallible method of scoring. All that matters is having fun with what drove you to NA. "Every 'death' annoys me. Not because of loss but because I failed" GG m8

Fair point. I believe the average player can and will also want to learn how to operate their vessel and use the correct ship to fit the desired objective. If we remove what makes each "veffel" rather unique, we simply turning 80% of choices away, and we all aim for the best average - the one that fits all - which leaves the specialty ships in the hands of the end 10% aficionados that don't care one bit about the "gear porn" but rather simulate the age of sail combat. Xebec and Herc definitely fit the pattern. By nature they are the best average you can get and with the refits and whatnot they become the super average. Pretty much as a Bellona can be, but honestly everyone picks on the poor DLC while shutting the blinders for all the other "broken" veffels. Let's try the patch, aim for quality of gameplay; the beyond average but exceptional.

Let's see how the hotfix changes things. Given the amount of crew per gun is reduced since quite a while, the 6 pounder batteries with a slight "buff", might become a option for the DLC ships setup as raiders. Opens up chances to release crew in the Herc, from the guns to boarding. The Requin already had everything optimized even with the max weight of shot. But Herc is a 5th rate, xebec is a 6th rate. Regarding the speeds... in truth all of our ships move really fast. Easy to nitpick on the lateen sails ship but forget the exagerated 74 gun ship moving at almost the same speed, ,just in different wind angle.

#suddenlyandwithoutwarning

Beautiful and sober design. The three focal points are there at a glance - mission level, reward and the accept button. 👍

The upwind efficiency is not Xebec privilege. Actually a well built Privateer can go down to 35% sails ( depending which canvas are hit ) and still extend from most. We players tested the chain versus the xebec sails. We recorded a ton of tests and ... no conclusion. The chain rips through the canvas away from the masts, so it is not only near the pole that it does damage. But you are right, something is odd on some hits. What makes the ship a monster is not the sailing profile. Many raiders were already using schooners, big and small, to terrorize the poor traders. What makes it a monster is that it can go toe to toe, given closure space, with any cruiser frigate and even some high board heavy frigates. Like any close haul specialist ship she has the benefit of initiative. Deciding when to continue to press the attack or retreating without danger of pursuit. Other issues were identified by players, and situations recorded to establish a point of comparison, such as angling, structural strength, crew damage and so on. So the question is. Is it because it has issues or is it because it is a DLC ship ? Because issues will be solved.

(clan) Naval Bases in region capitals only. No extra docks. Clan members can "donate" unused slots to be used for Naval Base construction. Slots become marked in the player UI as [in use by clan]. Naval Base becomes accessible same as the Warehouse. This way all slots available for the solo and clansman are equal numbers, with the choices falling into each playstyle. Solo has no clan support. Clansman can use common pool of slots without anyone, individually, have more slots than anyone else.

Transcribe as Registered in LOCAL HISTORIAN'S TABLE BOOK, OF REMARKABLE OCCURRENCES, Historical Facts, Traditions, LEGENDARY AND DESCRIPTIVE BALLADS, Ac., &c., CONNECTED WITH THE COUNTIES OF NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE, NORTHUMBERLAND AND DURHAM. https://play.google.com/books/reader?id=yhcHAAAAQAAJ Another report of the same encounter can be found in the London Gazette of 16 June 1744. https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/8337/page/1 ------------------- During the last long-protracted war, the Sunderland colliers often defied and beat off the enemy's privateers. The following instance of heroism, related in the Percy Anecdotes, is scarcely to be paralleled in the annals of British daring : The Isabella, of Sunderland, captain Hornsby, while steering for the Hague, fell in with the Marquis of Brancas, a French privateer, with a crew of 75 men, ten guns, and eight swivels, besides 300 small arms. The Isabella's crew consisted of five men and two boys : she carried four guns and two swivels. Upon observing the privateer, captain Hornsby asked his men to stand by him ; they promised to stand by him to the last. He then hoisted the British colours ; returned the fire of the enemy's chase with his two swivels. The Frenchman called upon him to strike. He coolly returned an answer of defiance. Upon this the privateer poured such showers of bullets into the Isabella, that her crew retreated to close quarters. Twice the enemy attempted to board on the larboard quarter ; Hornsby by a turn of the helm, frustrated their attempts. The Frenchman still kept firing upon him. The action had now lasted an hour, when the privateer running furiously upon his larboard bow, entangled his bowsprit among the shrouds. The captain of the privateer bawled out - "Strike you English dog." - Hornsby challenged him to come on board and strike his colours if he durst. The Frenchman then threw twenty men on board ; but a general discharge of blunderbusses from the Isabella's crew soon caused them to retreat. The ships now got disentangled, and the privateer tried to board on the starboard side ; when Hornsby and his mate shot each his man as they were lashing the ships together. The Frenchmen again commanded him to strike ; upon his refusal, twenty fresh men were ordered to attack the crew in their quarters with hatchets and pole axes ; but Hornsby and his crew, from their close quarters, kept up a constant fire, and a second time the Frenchmen retreated, hauling their dead after them with hooks. The ships being still lashed together, the enemy kept up a constant fire upon their close quarters; Hornsby returned the fire with spirit and effect. Observing them crowded together behind their mainmast for shelter, he aimed a blunderbuss, which happened to be doubly loaded, through a mistake, with twice twelve balls, which burst and threw him down ; but in an instant he started up, though much bruised. The blunderbuss made terrible havoc among the Frenchmen; they disentangled the ships, leaving their pistols, pole-axes, and graplings behind them. Hornsby then fired his two starboard guns into the enemy's stern. The ships engaged each other for two hours, yard-arm to yard-arm. The Isabella's hull, masts, yards, sails, and rigging, were shot through and through, and her ensign dismantled. A shot striking the Brancas between wind and water, she sheered off. Hornsby, erected his shattered ensign, and gave the Frenchman three cheers. The Frenchman returning, fired a dreadful volley into the stern of the Isabella. Captain Hornsby was wounded in the temple, which bled profusely. He called to his men to stand to their arms ; and taking close quarters, they sus tained the shock of three most tremendous broadsides, returning the fire, and the privateer again sheered off. They cheered and set up again their ensign. The Frenchman returned, and fired two broad sides, summoning a surrender — a final defiance was hurled at him. The captain of the privateer ran his ship alongside — his crew refused to board. He then cut the lashings and sheered off. Hornsby fired a gun ; upon which the magazine blew up, and the privateer went to the bottom. Out of 75 men, 36 were killed or wounded ; all the rest perished in the deep except three. _________________________________ In September 1744 George II awarded Hornsby a gold medal and chain worth £100 for his bravery, at a ceremony at Kensington Palace. The medal was engraved in italics and read "His Majesty’s Reward to Richd. Hornby [sic] of the Wrightson and Isabell for Bravely defending her with five men & three boys against a French privateer of 70 men and blowing up the privateer June 2 1744" His men each received a bounty of £5, whilst the boys received a mere 40 shillings. The original gold medal was the Royal Family medal of 1732 and depicts King George II and Queen Caroline on the obverse. The reverse contains the busts of seven royal children. The medal was struck by John Croker from dies prepared by John Sigismund Tanner and is only found struck in gold, silver and copper. The medal was produced by order of the King for distribution to foreign Princes and to other persons, whom His Majesty was pleased to honour. ( in The Hornsby Medal, by Sim Comfort https://www.medalcollectors.org/Archives/MCA Advisory April-May 2011.pdf )

As printed originally in the Naval Chronicles Volume 25 https://archive.org/details/navalchronicleco25londiala Extract of a Letter from Gibraltar, dated January 7, 1743.* The most gallant action which haas been performed in the present war happened in sight of this garrison, a little to the east of Europa Point, and almost in reach of our guns, on the 27th past, as follows : The Pulteney privateer, a large brigantine, mounting 16 carriage, and 26 swivels, Captain James Purcell, had been cruising in the Streight's mouth, and was standing in for this bay from the west, but with little or no wind. As soon as she'was seen from Old Gibraltar, two great Spanish xebeques, each carrying 120 men, 12 carriage guns, and a great number of pattereroes and musquetoons were sent out, and looking upon her as already their own, made great haste with their oars, and soon came up with her. There was in the bay an 80 gun-ship, but without a main-top-mast; so that there was no assisting the privateer but by a reinforcement of men; which might very easily have been sent when the xebeques first stood out; but the sea officers, though applied to, refused so reasonable a request, alleging that it was impossible so small a vessel, even full of men, could escape so superior a force. The brave Captain Purcell was, however, of a different opinion; and though he had in all but 42 men, and of those three wounded, yet he was resolved not to give up a vessel that had the honour of a commission from the Admiralty, till the last necessity; and finding his officers and men in the same disposition, they prepared for an obstinate defence. After a few single guns, the Spaniards came near and hailed the vessel by her name, and the captain by his; entreating him to strike and preserve their lives, otherwise no quarter. These threats were returned with guns. The Spaniards attempted to board, but were resolutely beat off, they attempted it twice more, but Captain Purcell prudently reserving half his broadside, they had not courage to board him, but exposed themselves so much, particularly in the last push, that they could stand it no longer, but made off with their oars towards Malaga, having lost half their men. The engagement lasted an hour and three quarters, and the Pulteney had but one man shot through the body, and five more very much wounded ; but what is very remarkable, every man on board was shot through his cloaths, and the sails ^and rigging were all shot to pieces. Some nine pounders went through his hull and masts. The Pulteney remaining becalmed after the battle, several boats went and towed her round, and the garrison have so high a sense of the great merit of the action, of which many hundreds of them were witnesses, that the governor and officers have made up a handsome sum for a large piece of plate, as a present to the captain, with a proper inscription ; and the merchants and other inhabitants will do the same in another piece; the sailors having already received a present from them in money.

They are not. Not here, not in job place, not anywhere where persons conduct themselves with respect and expecting to be respected. We are not expected to like everyone or even anyone really, but respect is the least anyone can show everyone else, especially while playing games. We are ALL expending hobby time to have fun. If by fun you mean spewing all your frustrations on a stranger ... *sigh*

sometimes is just as epic

No sir. Sorry.

Must admit I am very confused regarding this. I like the opportunity to capture ANY ship within the instance if my ship is sinking. The transfer of the captain to the fleet ship is a block for "catapults" by using fake attacks and sacrificing a minor ship. But all the noise regarding loss or no loss, retags and what not is really confusing me.

F11 report. Did quite a few already. Sleep well

What's your solution ? Just pure combat ? By the seven hells sir, you are right ! Devs, no eco upgrade needed. Stop development at once !