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They are not supposed to be.

I dislike those values because it doesn't take into account what would be the shell path after penetrating the first layer. It is a very simplified and fixed way to represent what can be a million possible outcomes. But to change those values can have negative side effects in battle that I would need to spend hours to know if is ok or not. So I will suggest changing that only for your mod files.

The reason is that you would need a fleet to control the sea to allow the army to move. I am only touching the land connections that should exist or not in the province's file. Anything that is not connected by land, I am ignoring, as it should IMO.

If it is important, yes.

I learned a new thing today! Thank you.

I am only checking the connections and comparing to what I am seeing in the map. The issue is the list is long so will take some time. 333 provinces.

Yes it is important, because there are many situations that land battles should not exist, or it should exist, but the game doesn't allow because of these errors. And if I don't report, most likely is that you will not see that fixed.

The mod will continue to be in "closed" status. I am checking all the provinces, and I am seeing many connections that should not exist or should exist and are missing. You can check in the link above. I only saw around 1/6 of all provinces, and I already saw too many errors. Also, I will need some assistance from Nathan first to squeeze any possible errors with TAF with the current UAD version, if they exist, before the mod goes live again.

Armenia have a mysterious province in the south. Graphic, minor issue.

---Provinces neighbours errors--- part 1 BLACK: should not exist. RED: should exist, but is missing. Some neighbours errors found in the "provinces" file by @overvaalmaaken northern_russia,Northern Russia,arctic,russia,russia,russia,russia,russia,russia,russia,russia,1,home,4,150000,-1,1925,15,1000,2500,7,0.0299999993,3,"northern_finland, southern_finland, esthonia, latvia, belarus, ukraine, southern_russia, siberian_russia, kazakhstan" eastern_mexico has space after northeast_mexico in neighbour code Found by me: gambia,Gambia,c_atlantic,britain,britain,britain,britain,britain,britain,britain,gambia,0,colony,3,6000,-1,-1,0,0,0,7,0.0125000002,2,"senegal, french_guinea" french_guinea,French Guinea,c_atlantic,france,france,france,france,france,france,france,cayenne,0,colony,5.9000001,14000,-1,-1,0,0,0,7,0.0125000002,2,"sierra_leone, french_sudan, upper_volta, ivory_coast, portuguese_guinea, senegal, liberia" senegal,Senegal,c_atlantic,france,france,france,france,france,france,france,senegal,0,colony,5,10000,-1,-1,0,0,0,7,0.0125000002,2,"gambia, mauritania, french_sudan, french_guinea" georgia,Georgia,b_sea,russia,russia,russia,russia,georgia,russia,russia,georgia,1,home,3,90000,-1,1930,1,100,100,7,0.0125000002,2,"southern_russia, armenia, azerbaijan, northern_turkey, eastern_turkey" northern_turkey,Northern Turkey,b_sea,ottoman,ottoman,ottoman,ottoman,ottoman,ottoman,ottoman,ottoman,1,home,9,80000,-1,1930,1,150,100,6,0.119999997,2,"bosporus, western_turkey, southern_turkey, eastern_turkey, georgia" eastern_turkey,Eastern Turkey,b_sea,ottoman,ottoman,ottoman,ottoman,ottoman,ottoman,ottoman,ottoman,1,home,9,80000,-1,1930,1,150,100,6,0.119999997,2,"western_turkey, northern_turkey, southern_turkey, syria, georgia, armenia, persia, iraq" southern_spain,Southern Spain,medit2,spain,spain,spain,spain,spain,spain,spain,spain,1,home,10,85000,-1,-1,0,0,0,2.5,0.0299999993,2,"southern_france, western_spain, northern_spain, western_france" syria,Syria,medit,ottoman,ottoman,ottoman,ottoman,france,france,france,syria,0,colony,5,20000,-1,1930,4,400,100,10,0.0299999993,3,"lebanon, transjordania, iraq, southern_turkey, eastern_turkey, palestine" british_columbia,British Columbia,alaska_gulf,canada,canada,canada,canada,canada,canada,canada,canada,0,country,2,25000,-1,-1,0,0,0,2.5,0.0125000002,2,"northern_canada, central_usa, western_usa, eastern_aleutians, canadian_prairies, southern_alaska" southern_russia,Southern Russia,b_sea,russia,russia,russia,russia,russia,russia,russia,russia,1,home,12,150000,-1,1890,100,500,1500,7,0.0299999993,2,"central_russia, ukraine, kazakhstan, georgia, azerbaijan" north_east_england,Northeast England,n_sea,britain,britain,britain,britain,britain,britain,britain,britain,1,home,9,120000,-1,1890,100,300,300,7,0.0299999993,2,"scotland, north_west_england, eastern_england" eastern_england,Eastern England,n_sea,britain,britain,britain,britain,britain,britain,britain,britain,1,home,17,120000,-1,1890,100,550,500,7,0.0299999993,2,"north_west_england, wales, southern_england, north_east_england"

You are talking during loading turns, right? What you got from the ML log?

That can be what is causing the issue. Thank you! I will fix those vanilla errors and upload the mod tomorrow.

@Nick ThomadisAn error found by @MDHansen in the provinces file. northern_colombia,,Northern Colombia,caribbean,colombia,,,,,,,colombia,,country,8.414879,-74.797093,Northern Colombia,10,"22,000","2,909,900",1916,5,700,400,7,,,"panama, venezuela, northern_colombia",,,,,,,,, northern_colombia should be southern_colombia

Thank you!! There is still an error reported by other player related to "ukraine", but I can't find any error about that in the "provinces" file. It is strange why these errors are happening now and never happened before. I will create another "provinces" dump file to see if I can find anything. update: There were some changes to "provinces" neighbors made by the devs. I already updated the file with the new changes, but I still didn't find any strange related to Ukraine.

Thank you. At this point it seems it is better to shut down the mod until a solution can be found for this issue.

Think? No I am 100% sure it will. And I still didn't give up to find a solution for players to use them and being restricted to the AI.

Damn. can you upload your save file to take a look?

If you are talking about the port size, yes. The reason is Argentina only starts with one province and one port, so I had to buff the capacity to compensate.

Yes it is. There was an error (made by me 😒) in the penetration values before. I found it and updated the values.

If you look only comparing the barrels, no. I can't say for sure, but it should be a vanilla issue. There were some speeds changes by devs in the recent updates, and the same values are being used in NAR. I will check again, for the next update. It seems it is only happening to you, so why don't you try a clean installation? Remove all mod files, delete all save files, and install everything and start a new campaign?

Thank you!

I suggested the same thing to the devs many months ago, and I didn't get an answer. In short, I have a modifier responsible for the AI to follow when is armed with torpedoes, but is applied to all ships. It doesn't make any distinction. So, in early years, you will see most ships coming to fight in close quarters. Later, we will see long range torpedoes and so the AI should keep more normal battle distances. I also set other different parameters to give AI more freedom of movements, so it can chase you, run away if the losses are too much, keep distance etc. But around 1890-1900 most battles will be in close quarters.

Light shells Reduced ammo Barbettes Reinforced bulkheads Citadel Maybe hydraulic turrets Add all together and you should keep the risk low. CAs are better at this because they have armor that can save your ass in more situations, so in those ships I will increase the ammo count. Don't forget that the fires were nerfed in NAR in comparison with vanilla game but can still be dangerous. But as I said before, if I want my ships to be deadly against similar ships, then SAP and a more safe propellant should be more interesting. In 1900, you don't have many options anyway. Around 1910 is when we start to have interesting options to choose.

The AI is now following my personal choices about ammo, torpedoes and rangefinder, so yeah, expect to have a much harder time in comparison to vanilla game. One golden rule I always follow, and the AI is also using, is about protection and chance to ammo detonation or flash fire. So if you look, as an example, the AI destroyer's design components list, most likely you will see them to have light shells, reduced ammo weight and few torpedoes. They should also be equipped most of the time with coincidence rangefinder I. This should guarantee a higher chance of survival, to fight longer and connect more hits the longer the battle endures. Now, if you want your ships to be effective against similar ships and also smaller vessels, then 90% of the time you will want to use SAP. If you want to fight above your weight, then capped shells are the answer or since you are in 1900, simply use pricic acid and burn everything.

NAR "let's make UAD great again", part 1.0.2 Changelog: Updated to UAD Opt x2