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Actually I know for fact they can win you battles in other ways. The number one way my clan has used them is to be in more than one battle at once or to fill a battle. What the Nationals on PvP2 can't get in there head is when I say your only fighting 15--20 guys or 10-15 they can't figure out how we can field 25 or even have guys in more than one place fighting them. I personally have played two Pirates alts in the same port battle to help field the full 25 against a full team of 25+ Nationals or had to log my alt in and sent them over to another port to stop a flip on the old flag system cause my main char was currently in a port battle (one mortar brig and one fire-ship). When we say it's only 10-15 guys we really aren't joking that you had guys with many of them playing two chars at once beating the crap out of three nations. Though since we got our numbers up we actually can field a full 20-25 in port battles with a few guys not making it in and not using any of our alts other than for screening purpose so we can get them into the fight since the Nationals where fielding 35+ at port battles against our 20. The last time they attacked kids we got 25 in the port battle and a few extra out side. They had over 40 players at that port battle on the British/Dutch/US side. So yes they can be used to win battles. The thing is if your 25 players are getting there arse beat by 10-15 guys playing multi accounts against you than it's a skill problem on there side. These are the same guys that complain about alts and cheats and stuff cause it's not that they are being done, but they using the game mechanics and learning it better than them to get the things done with less manpower. Some times the alts are all that are keeping small nations alive too. As for alts in other nations. As the Devs have said, "LOOSE LISP SINK SHIPS." There are spies and traitors in every nation so watch what you say. As long as the alts aren't being abused per game rules than just move on, cause it's basically the same as some one else playing the game. Instead it's just one person behind that char instead of 2 or 3 or more. I make it very clear my Dane alt on PvP2 cause I do help them out in port battles and I they have alliance with the pirates so I"m not spying on any one or being a traitor to there nation.

Isn't that the point of your little alliance? To fill in the slots of the numbers your short? Worked for a while but why has folks stopped showing up to support your port battles. Same with the US and Brits. We noticed that it started to get more and more folks on each nation not showing up to support the other nations of the alliance. We took note of things like that. Not to mention it was the same guys that would support the other nations over and over. You be surprise just how much we can relate cause this is how it's been for us in pirates. You have the same guys showing up to every port battles, they get burned out and than stop showing up. T his what happen to us last patch and why are numbers dropped so low. Though a lot of that was cause of things like the Hostility grind and the fine woods crafting changes. Though saying your short on players sounds more real than saying your out of boats and crafting mats to make new ones. They have ships, but they just don't want to bring them out and loose them, you know being care bears and all.

I think the problem is that alliances breads folks to be happy with each others ports and not fight over others. If you have three big natiosn with most of the regions than they won't fight each other if they can just use each other ports (what we have on PvP2 with US/GB/DUTCH. US/GB are the two largest nations and they haven't had a port battle since Aug last year. When Pirates took Brits down to one port cause they back stab us, the largest clan said they didn't care cause they will just use the US ports. I think they can do port battles, use each other resources (trade), but they have buy the production off the other nation, not set up there shop in that port. They can't craft ships except only in there owned nations ports. Like you said we need to force a reason to trade and folks aren't doing it. I put up by orders all the time for simple things like coal to get folks to bring it and make money to save me the trip. A lot of folks don't do that. The other thing we realy need a resource wipe and let every one start over without old mechanics that don't work any more and was very broken (think of all the tabbaco and compass wood deals to make folks rich). Instead of like Pitts they can make Morts region teh Neutral Nation region to turn it into a trade hubb of the game. Kidds will become the actuall pirate capital, but this would work best if pirates wasn't involved in the RvR but instead had there own real raid system. Key crafting perks prob shouldn't be in that region and it should be more a rookie starting area with maybe raid type fights that region goes back to the owner after a coold down instead of being controlled by one nation or another. They could easly chop it up so each nation had a few ports each/small regions in that zone. We almost got wrecked in a port battle recently that we where very clearly winning. I don't get why they need to buff the forts/towers. They where the ones that sunk a few of our shisp in the Port Battle as we pushed the defenders out of A circle not the defenders. So now they are going to buff it even more where we are goign to be forced to bring mortar brigs to fights that we wouldn't normally bring them too. It's all ready bad enough on the open world that every one and there mother (all the nationals) that we tag run straight for the forts or fleets that are pulled in instead of fighting you even when they out number your side. They keep making things to save the PvEr and not help the PvPer. Like the missions being 5 mins closed instead of the old 15 mins. They should of made that 10 mins. The tag timer is now 15 sec when it was 20....it should be 10 secs. Sorry if I'm that close to tag you than I should get my tag right than not almost half a min later. The constant grind to flip a port cause folks can just not show up to PvP so you have to grind to flip the port to get PvP at the port battle. That is one of the reasons many left, but it's gotten better and we have had a good number players return cause we are getting PvP now. It seems you push away PvP you loose players. You bring it back you get more players.

Did something happen on test as all my ships and ports are now gone other than the one ship I left in redeemable.

SO your saying you have been demasted several times like a newb? I'll back what Jean has said about experience. I suck at trying to do the big boy demasting, but I can take a shallow water ships mast out pretty fast with a fellow shallow water ship by doing one shot at a time instead. That is easy for me, but might be hard for others. Just cause you can't do it doesn't make it a hack.

Well this thread should be about battle reports and not egos and such. We have other post for that. As long as there are battles I'll keep posting them on my side that we are involved in. Just like Elric will for those he's in. I hope if we ever see some US vs Brits vs Dutch Battles some one on there side would do the same. I try to keep them simple and to the point so there isn't much smack talking going on, but hate to say it they make it hard some times. That funny it's not what we are hearing from our "SPY's" We hear ya'll are telling them to avoid pirates at all cost cause you can't win. Well you got to try to win after all. Most of them aren't happy with y'all either cause they don't like the concept of just escaping or not showing up for fights. I got a feeling certain numbers are going to be changing soon and those old claners will be loosing more and more power. Time will tell, but just cause one nation gets all it's players on at one time doesn't make them big. It makes them organized. US/BRITS/DUTCH combined can field 2-3 port battle teams at one time if they just get there arse in order and stop the inner fighting between clans. We have seen ya'll with 35+ at port battles (kids there was well over 40 players on the US/BRTI/DUTCH side when ya'll attacked us) on more than one occasion so using the excuise you can't field 25 is BS. US can do it just on there own, I'm pretty sure Brits can too. We know Dutch can't yet, but they have fielded up to around 15-18 before of there own players. You just got a clan added to your nation so you should have more help there. I'm waiting to see how things go with your little nat (swedes) and some of those port battles. Sorry ya'll can't get guys motivated to fight, that isn't our problem, that is ya'lls. Maybe if you stop thinking every one is a spy, stop treating your lower level guys like crap and helpign them grind up, get folks motivated with fleets and actions (like our operations we been doing) you will get the numbers to show up. Not showing up and just hiding won't do it. It didn't work last time and it won't work this time. You know why? Cause we aren't going to do the same thing we did last time. We learned and adapted from that. We lost players too and want to keep them this time. So we are doing things about it. Hell I'm still thinking of doing the fun small ship battles some time soon. Keep putting it off and off, but I think it would be good for the server to do some fun stuff like that. Don't see ya'll arranging anything to help out.

That funny cause I have tons of screen shots of Port battles since back in December where we showed up to almost every one of them out number and still fought and lost ships. I don't know what your definition of giving up is, but to me that wasn't it. We keep on fighting and pushing until we got or numbers back up. As soon as we did and ya'll loose a fight or two ya'll go in hiding. Funny how ya'll loose some fights out number (the alliance not just DUTCH) and than suddenly can't fight use when we have equal numbers. The only ones I see giving up is the alliance. The only time I see ya'll fighting any one is ports where you think you will out number the other party and win. I'm sorry but the only thing folks are seeing is how bad a players ya'll are and all the excused ya'll keep making up. It's funny when folks do stay and fight it's not the old school claners, it's the new guys that aren't ranked up. So tell me who has the true balls around here? It's not you old timer PvErs for sure. Record players man, it's all about record players cause I can't play music for crap....lol

Yah my nephew is on my steam account as a family share and he wanted to play games with me so I made an account just for him and gave the email to his parents. When he gets older they will give him the log in and password, but it's so he can play games i have and see what he likes. Tried to get him into NA but he's apparently more into girls now as a teen than games. Which might be a good or bad thing...lol

At this time the only way to leave a clan and give it up is to delete your char and make a new one. Than it will be given to the next in line officer. The Devs have stated in the future they plan to add a function you can change leaders, but at this time it's not on the top of there list of things to do.

Grand Turk 4th Rate Deep water Port Battle: ZERO BRITS vs 21 Pirates Enough said.....

Maybe cause there is this silly alliance where no one can kill each other?

Ok any one wants to know what we do in empty port battles while we wait for the clock to run out on the cap circle points. http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/94977361899944435/A4EF9FEBAB4013122597C1FEB8C9AADE06DE058B/ Yah we practice things like this and goof off. We where joking the whole time, "It would be funny as hell if they pop in to find half our ships demasted and stuck in irons."

Wow loose three ports and you give up. We where down to 2 and we didn't give up. We keep going and going. Go hide in a corner and give up. Cause that isn't how you win, that is how you loose and never win. You didn't see us giving up months ago when US/Brit/Dutch was curb stomping on us. As for helping the little guys. YOU ARE NOT THE LITTLE GUYS. Your in an alliance with the two largest nations. It's not our fault they stopped helping you and they stopped showing up to their own fights too. Seems like ya'll are just the spoiled little brats that when you don't get your way any more you just ignore every one and hope they go away. We aren't going away any time soon and if you keep that up we will give your extra regions to the little guys to help them out since you don't seem to want them any more. So which ones should we take and give up to them? We might as well split them up now and get it over with.

Yes please, we have had enough time chatting back and forth with it. I'm just glad ya'll send the guys that understand English way better than I understand Chinese to chat with us. I think if they got more SEA players in the game it can help fill other nations too, cause not every one would want to be of the same clan and nation.

It wouldn't been easy if ya'll just fought us for them. We told you when we gave you that region we will take it back if you ever attacked Castries. You attacked it so we took it back and plus interest. Just be happy we stopped at 3 and not pushed you back to less regions. If you want them back you need to fight for them. If we just gave back regions every time when you don't fight there will be no PvP at all. So you didn't fight for them you won't get them back.

No one is ordering anything, we just suggest if you want to make changes and get your numbers up than you need to do something diffrent. What you been doing isn't working. So maybe it's time to change stuff. You lost 7 members of the US/Brit/Dutch over the last 3 months to pirates at most. That isn't every member. Step up and take there place. Remember they left cause of your care bear actions and not wanting to fight. It's not our fault you can't keep your best PvPers. I'm sure if you are out PvE will love to have you. Love how you get all worked up over here and your words really don't mean crap. Bye Felicia.... We weren't the ones that declared war on some one. Call it spoils of wars. Ya'll where able to field way plenty to attack us per the screen shot I posted above of the Castries port battle. So ya'll should of been able to defend them. It's not our fault ya'll just gave up. We don't reward cowards that attack and run away.

Yah had to edit my post above forgot ya'll aren't holding that region any more.

Oh and lets not forget about the port battles pirates have lost over and over for the last 3-5 months when out number, but we keep comeing back to the fight. That is how you get stronger. If you lost one fight and than run you never win anything. You guys pretty much just beat yourself by giving up and running.

Out of Live Oak and Mahogany? We had the LO ports for not even a week so you can't be out of it. As for mahogany we got that port just last week so you can't have ran out. Not to meantion let me bring this back up again. Danish: Dutch: 1 Mahogany Lost to Pirates GB: 2 Mahogany, 1 Cedar France: Pirates: 1 Live Oak Gave back up with other to US when operation was done. Spanish: Swedes: US: One Live Oak and Mahogany Now lets look at the alliances: DSF: BDU: 1 Cedar, 2 Live Oak, 3 Mahogany Pirates: Now have 1 Mahogany So with the current regions this means the Brit/Dutch/US alliance still has more Cedar, Live Oak and Mahogany than the other nations have. So your telling me that all this time since the alliances like AUG last year none of you been stock pileing any Live Oak or Mahogany? I call BS on this. I have stacks of Live Oak left over from before the patch that was just running out when we took Savanna. Man you are so laughable about the crap you come up with as excuses. No should I go to the metals cause i have those added up too and I'll tell you that the alliance has way more of those ports too. Maybe if you get off your arse and go use some of your alliances resources and help each other than you wouldn't run out of stuff. Than again I don't really remember sinking you to much, cause you are hardly at any fights so it's not really you loosing ships.

Willimgton we where out numbered....

and this was when ya'll attacked us at Castries so don't say you can't field a full port battles with your allaince. You out number us and we beat you. Should I show Savanna and Willimgton where ya'll out number use with a full 25 and we beat you at those too?

We all know ya'll don't show up cause this happens to you....

7:09 PM CST tonight....So tell me how you couldn't fill this port battle? Oh cause ya'll are over at San Damingo attacking the Danes which are SEA players and can't defend against you guys during your Prime time. Which in effect means you night flipping them and doing exactly what your complaining about. That still doesn't explain why the last few port battles other than Barcoa no one has shown up other than maybe a few players that aren't part of the big clans. Sounds like to me now that you don't out number us 3 to 1 or even 2 to 1 you guys don't want to fight fights that are equal numbers.

Cap Francais line-ship deep water port. ZERO BRIT/US/DUTCH vs 25 Pirates. Well guess doing a port battle at 7pm CST prime time means they won't show up either. If you can't beat them even with the three largest nations this is what they are doing now. They will just not show up. SO should we just call this a PvE server if you guys can't beat us out numbering us you just won't show up? We showed up when it was 15 vs 25+ another 10-25 out side, but we bring 25 ya'll run and hide. This is why we don't respect any of the Nationals other than the small nations.

Are aggression against the DUTCH is result of so called Dutch declaring war upon us and there attacks on Castries and our silver/copper production region. We do not care if they fight with the Danes, Swedes, French and well Spain since they are now in there alliance. Though we will if free help screen those battles cause the DUTCH/GB/US alliance brings them to be able to sport 25+ in there port battles when the alliance of those nations can only do so in the Danes prime times. So it's only fair to help thin out the numbers that can join those battles. They also attacked Castries while we had other fights plan. A coward tatics they did back when we fought the Brits. So if they don't want to get there little arse kicked or ports taken from them than they better not attack us and not expect us to not respond back in kind. Since we did so we don't plan to take any more regions from Dutch unless they attack our econ production port again. When you only have 3 regions (at the time they declare war and attacked us) than you have to do what you have to do. Hell right now we think the Dane/Brit fight is pretty decent matched. So is the small Dutch/Swede (with a few others of the DFS alliance) added in, but since we aren't in alliance with these nations you will not see us joining any port battles. We screen them cause that gives us PvP. Why do we need to do port battles when if the Nations actually fight each other than we can just get the PvP from screening the fights. Just want to add current Port Battles between Pirates and Brits/US are to get our buffer that we announced many weeks back as to our intentions in the server. I think it's funny folks are complaining now that some one fights back, they sure wasn't complaining when US/GB/DUTCH was taking every one down to 1 or 2 regions. Ya'll are acting like you been one ported or something. I mean look at it. Pirates: 6 Regions DFSS Alliancee: 17 Regions. Danish : 8 Regions France: 3 Regions Spanish: 1 region Swedes: 5 regions US/DUTCH/GB: 48 Regions US: 19 Regions Dutch: 7 Regions GB: 22 Regions Ya'll still have over half the regions and almost twice the regions DFSS and Pirates have added together so it's not like ya'll are short regions.