Liq

yea thats 170

Ops, yeah I forgot the most beautiful one 90? A little low dont you think? IMHO it should at least be on the same level as the Frigate, @170 BR

If anyone would like to participate but doesnt have any assets on the EU server - I am offering to craft ships, up to 4th rates, for the tournament, teak and white oak wood available.

*bump* 7 Teams registered so far, for a proper knockout stage (8 teams, quarter finals) we would need a total of 12 teams, in which case the team on the last spot per group will not make it to the knockout stage. This event, in my opinion, is a great chance to get some nice, fun and ballanced fights - So don't hesitate to register You can only win, fun and experience wise

I voted no aswell but I feel like we'll have to accept the majority's decision - I'll make sure everyone participating voted here in some time, and ONLY count those votes (good thing we can see who voted).

this Things were working out perfectly well when we only had Copper Plating (and Speed Trim Mod with -10% HP), and no speedcap

If you draw in the group stage (still ships alive on both sides after 60 minutes and no difference of a factor of at least 1.5), each team will get 1 point. In the knockout phase, you cannot draw - If there are still ships alive on both sides after 60 minutes, the side with more BR takes the win - If the BR alive after 60 min is equivalent, "Golden Goal" rules apply, as in first team to get a kill in Overtime gets the win (This is how I think it would work best)

For the upcoming 3vs3 tournament, it's still unclear whether or not Repairs should be limited - They can sometimes unnecessarily extend battle length, but sometimes also create new interesting situations. Please only vote if you are planning to participate in the tournament, and let me know your thoughts below. Thanks!

BR List is not definite, still taking in community response on how to adjust it to make it fair and balanced Personally I dont feel like repairs should be limited in this one, but we can make a poll and vote

I also do not think we should ban certain builds.. Sure, Live Oak White Oak is super tanky, but it's not practical, at all. In the right hands a teak - white oak build will do much better. IMHO more options are better in this case.

TBH I dont think we should put the limits too high. Teams should be able to customize the ships to their likings, and additionally it's going to be very hard, if not impossible, to make sure ALL the ships in battles actually do not have any of the banned refits. Someone can send me a screenshot of a Trinc without Cartagena refit, but that doesnt mean I can be 100% positive that he is going to use that specific setup.

I would like to yes, but due to referee-Bias I cannot

Will have a look at it again when I get home

Mausrad brennt

Thanks - I got the official list already - http://www.navalactionwiki.com/index.php?title=Ships But we thought some changes had to be made, because the balancing didnt seem right - Example L'Hermione same BR as surprise, when she's better at everything - or Wasa same BR as Constitution, when it's much more tough in general

@Everyone in this thread, please provide some feedback on the BattleRating list I created and suggest changes. Edit: Also, personally I feel like repairs should not be limited for this. What do you think?

Roger - Are you able to record battles and / or livestream them? In the group stage (groups consist of 4 teams each, of which the best 2 will qualify to the knockout stage) each team will battle each team once - which means you will have 3 battles. For now I'm thinking to set the group stage to about 2 weeks, should provide plenty of time for every team to do their battles. Once the groups are decided (by RNG), you will have to contact the other teams in your group and agree on a battle date (and place). Remember that in every official battle there needs to be at least one referee / judge in order for it to count. Later I will update the second post with a timetable to when judges are available - Personally I'm working fulltime and therefore on workdays can only be online from about 17.30 to 21.00 servertime - However on the weekends I am mostly available. You could also just do all your battles on the weekends, given your opponents agree.

No - but if they are, we will have to make use of outlaw battles, as in all participants of a battle join an already ongoing outlaw battle, so that they all can join in at the same time - rather than some having to rejoin manually and potentially screw up the spawn. Same goes for when the teams matched against each other are from the same nation - ONLY possibility is to make use of outlaw battles. But I think it's important that ALL battle participants join in at the same time - I will update the second post with how I imagine the tag for battles to look like soon. Yes

Community made BattleRating list: Lynx - 20 Cutter - 25 Privateer - 30 Pickle - 40 Brig - 50 Prince de Neufchatel - 50 Snow - 60 Navy Brig - 70 Rattlesnake Heavy - 80 Mercury - 80 Niagara - 90 Cerberus - 100 Renommee - 110 Surprise - 140 Hermione - 160 Frigate - 170 Santa Cecilia - 170 Belle Poule - 180 Pirate Frigate - 190 Essex - 190 Trincomalee - 200 Endymion - 210 Indefatigable - 220 Constitution - 250 Ingermanland - 260 Wappen von Hamburg - 260 Agamemnon - 270 Wasa - 320 3rd Rate - 380 Bellona - 400 St. Pavel - 450 Bucentaure - 470

Registered teams: [HRE 1], Sverige Player 1: Rediii @rediii Player 2: Palatinose @Palatinose Player 3: Havelock @Havelock Reserves: Battle Cry [ALOHA], Pirates Player 1: Banished Privateer @Peter Goldman Player 2: EliteDelta @EliteDelta Player 3: Vile Executioner @Vile Executioner Reserves: Rahzer @rahzor, Jacob T Warhog @Jacob Elston Welcome to Hawaii [EXILE], Pirates Player 1: HachiRoku @HachiRoku Player 2: Lord Bomgordel @Lord Bomgordel Player 3: Otto Kohl @Otto Kohl Reserves: Donnerschock @Donnerschock TARN YA FAKING RETARD ! [X], Sverige Player 1: Yordi @? Player 2: Elite92 @elite92 Player 3: Tony @tonyxyx Reserves: CaptainFindus @? Strength and Honor! [VLTRA], Spain Player 1: Jorge @Jorge Player 2: CeltiberoJuanjo @Celtiberojuanjo Player 3: Durruti @? Reserves: Emkay @emkay, Dshrio @dShiro Jajajajajajaja... [RUBLI], Pirates Player 1: dron441 @dron441 Player 2: Gamover @Gamover Player 3: Moscalb @Moscalb Reserves: dumpert @dumpert Battle Cry [PoDW], Pirates + Sverige Player 1: Ram Dinark @Imperator1 Player 2: Karl Eversten @KarJIyxa Player 3: Jon Snow lets go @Jon Snow lets go Reserves: Dwayne Everett @Дуэйн Эверет Keep calm and kill them all [DC+], Sverige Player 1: GhastlyGhost @GhastlyGhost Player 2: Vazco @vazco Player 3: Mikocen @Mikocen Reserves: Less talking, more drinking! [CABAL], Sverige Player 1: Bout bij Nacht @Knobby Player 2: Elias @? Player 3: Apina kin @? Reserves: Battle Cry [OCEAN 1], Danmark Norge Player 1: Tommy Shelby @TommyShelby Player 2: SeaWolf @SeaWolf_ Player 3: SeaHyena @Sureshot Reserves: We're the good ones [OCEAN 2], Danmark Norge + Sverige Player 1: Silfarion @Silfarion Player 2: Tomms123 @Tomms123 Player 3: Liquicity @Liq Reserves: Snoopy @Snoopy We're the shitty ones [DNP], Danmark Norge Player 1: McKnight @? Player 2: 0TimeLefT @0timeleft Player 3: Lars Kjaer @Bearwall Reserves: Battle Cry [ALOHA 2], Pirates Player 1: Malachy Karrde @Malachy Player 2: Wy @? Player 3: Draconis @? Reserves: Shrouded Recluse @ShroudedRecluse Battle Cry [HRE 2], Sverige Player 1: therealStyles @Styles Player 2: Ser Sven Svensson @? Player 3: Ser Abram Svensson @Abram Svensson Reserves: troody @troody I thought we do PVE [HRE 3], SverigePlayer 1: Pit Pinsel @kaayoPlayer 2: Pirat165 @?Player 3: sveno @sveno Reserves: MasterANDCommander @masterANDcommanderWe are the Swerg, resistance is futile! [EdR (1)]Player 1: dizzwho @?Player 2: bwa bwandais @Bwa BwandaisPlayer 3: fofo @?Reserves: Visca @, Kierrip @PIerrick de Badas BattleCry

Basic information on the tournament - and to be discussed rules The layout for this tournament is 3v3 Each team will have to spread their ships to 500 BR - This means all 3 ships of one team can have a max. combined BR of 500, see the community made BR list below Tournament will have a group stage and a final knockout stage - Groupstage will consist of 4 teams in one group, of which the best 2 will qualify for the knockout phase. In the groupstage, every team will fight every team once. Entry fee of 500k per team - Prize money will be split on rank 1st, 2nd and 3rd place of the endresults (50 - 30 - 20) Once the group stage goes live, the teams will be given a certain amount of time to fulfill their groupstage battles. How long this stage will last wil totally depend on how many teams are entering. Groups for the group stage are going to be created using a RNG site Each battle will have to have at least one referee aka. judge in them Battle length is max. 60 minutes Win in group stage = 3 points A win can be achieved by the follwing ways: Be the first to sink all enemy ships (within the 60 minutes battle length) If after 60 minutes there are still ships alive on both sides, the side with 1.5x the BR is going to take the win Draw in group stage = 1 point A draw can be achieved by the following ways: If after 60 minutes there are still ships alive on both sides, but the difference between the two teams is not equal or greater than a factor of 1.5, the battle will count as a draw Loss in group stage = 0 points If, after all battles in the group stage are done, some teams have the same amount of points, the second deciding factor will be how much BR they lost themselves overall in all battles. (The team with the lower BR lost will logically come first.) If this still doesnt decide the winner, a duel between each groups leader in a ship they both agree on to use will decide. Not appearing to an arranged battle will result in an automatical loss - The enemy team will be granted a victory (3 points) and full BR sunk. If the teams battling each other are from the same nation, they will have to join an outlaw battle in order to fight each other - Sadly this is the only possibility. Tagging rules: In order for the battles to be fair from beginning, I think there needs to be a clear tagging rule - This is how I would imagine it to look like: If the teams are positionned like that on the initial tag, no team will have a wind advantage and it will be fair from beginning. Same goes for when we have to make use of outlaw battles (if the teams are from the same nation or a team has members from different nations) - Both teams have to line up as shown above around an ongoing outalw battle and all join on command. Referees / Judges and their availability: Once the groups are decided by RNG, you will have to set a date and place with each other team in your group. In order for battles to count, there needs to be at least one referee / judge inside the battle. You will be given approximately 2 weeks to host all your groupstage battles - Plenty of time Liquicity @Liq - Workdays: 17:30 - 21.00 Servertime ; Weekend: Roughly 11:00 - 00:00 Servertime Cornelis Tromp @Cornelis Tromp - Christendom @Christendom -

IMPORTANT: 16 / 16 teams registered, Registration is CLOSED ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Second Naval Action 3 VS 3 Tournament ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Applications and preliminary Rulesetting ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Groups composition & Definite Rules ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Group Stage & Resultssheet ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Based on feedback from this poll, I decided to already open up the applications for an upcoming tournament. On that thread, already 32 players voted that they would be interested in participating in a playermade tournament - that's over 10 teams already. The tournament is going to be 3vs3, and teams matched vs each other will have to communicate and agree on a date and place where they have their battles. Much more detailed information about how it works you can find below How to apply for the tournament List your Group name, the 3 main captains names (both ingame and forum if they got a forum account), aswell as your nation, and up to 5 reserve players (in case the main captains can't make it to a battle for whatever reason). Would also be nice to get a "battle cry" from each participating group. Example: [OCEAN], Danmark Norge Player 1: Tommy Shelby @TommyShelby Player 2: SeaWolf @SeaWolf_ Player 3: Silfarion @Silfarion Reserves: SeaHyena @Sureshot; Ellis @Ellis Demast us if you can Note: Players don't have to be from the same nation to form a team - But if they are from different nations, the battles they are participating in will have to be based on outlaw battles. That means that I will need some pirates willing to help creating outlaw battles, so that ALL battle participants can join at the same time.

I dont really see why this should be an exploit - You could also just pull a @Tac and tag a 25-ships-fleet on your own and make 1'955'000 gold + 227 Combat marks from 1 single battle

Depending on how things go, I might be able to offer 5th to 4th rates around the La Tortue area for those wo don't have any assets on this server - Not 100% sure yet though I'll leave this thread open until tomorrow or Thursday evening, and then open up an application thread, and start working on the final rules with the participants. A hurdle will be, once the group stage is set up, scheduling all battles so it works out for both teams. I was thinking to tendencially give more time for both teams to agree on a battle date.