Wipes - redeemables, progress, compensation

[Salvador Limones]

Hello! 

I just wanted to ask a couple of questions.

1.) Will we lose our redeemables if we redeem them and the accounts gets wiped? Also, will we lose them if we don't redeem them at all? I like having them in my "redeem basket", but afraid they might disappear one day.

2.) I've heard there will certainly be a wipe once the game is released. I also understand that we will keep our exp if accounts get wiped. What about crafting levels? Also, what about some kind of compensation? I can imagine people who have a Santisima (if anyone even does) won't be too pleased with losing everything... It's hours of work after all, I'm sure people aren't playing just to test the game, most people would like to keep their progress, especially traders and crafters. Battle exp isn't and shouldn't be the most important thing.

 

P.S. New to forums, hope these questions haven't been answered a billion times already

Cheers!

[mirror452]

As far as I know no wipe is confirmed, however devs stated that wipes CAN happen if necessary due to changes in the game mechanics. The only thing that will definitely NOT be wiped anymore is (combat-) XP.

Edited February 6, 2016 by mirror452

[Salvador Limones]

That's not really motivational, but okay. If anyone has any more information, please, do share.

[mirror452]

That's not really motivational, but okay. If anyone has any more information, please, do share.

 

Well, it's Early Access, not full release.

[Benass]

Devs official statement.

No exp Wipes.

 

Crafting exp = unknown. 

 

Money and ships can get wiped, but if this happens there will be rewards in place as remediable.   So in a way if u get wiped u will start with some remediable ships. 

 

 

Ofcors if u like making money and gather up few mils then yes u might loose out, but u still get to play.

[Salvador Limones]

Thanks. Mostly wanted to know about redeemables. ^^

[Cpt Farragut]

I would be pretty displeased with a wipe of crafting XP and blueprints if combat XP was not wiped. It would mean that all the time spent by people exploring and developing crafting mechanics was a waste of time. It would've been far more efficient to just shoot things and gain the XP so larger ships would be available faster in full release. This would mean gold to buy ship parts is easier to find in full release and crafting level could be attained essentially as fast as your hours accumulated.

[jodgi]

I went into crafting this time knowing there might be a wipe of crafting xp.

It's the worst grind I've ever done in any game. People who crafted before tried to warn me, but like an idiot I went "pfft, I've ground before...".

It's all my fault.

Still... Please, please, please, please, please, don't make me do this again. If at all possible, please!

Take my gold, my ships, my materials as many times as you have to. I will just smile.

I will not be able to take a crafting xp wipe like a man, forgive me.

[TheBudmonkey]

If you go to twitch and look for Braincage's channel, you can look at a very recent recorded video he has of a long Q+A with a dev - In this Q+A he is VERY specific that with the rework of the crafting system they expected there to be a crafting xp wipe and probably a commodities(assets wipe). 

 

 This hasn't been something they have kept a secret - they have been very open about the probability of an expected crafting xp wipe- if people did the smallest amount of research or even asked in open chat channels they would have been informed of this fact - 

 

 The game still has  a huge amount of work to be done, currently its very bare bones as a product and any major reworks of game mechanics or design will probably require a wipe of xp, assets or both. Its the same with all games that are still in development. The crafting system is a place holder at present. Any game development company that tells you there is 0% chance of a wipe during beta testing is lying and or very naive.

 

 People seem to buy into early access and then get upset that either the game isnt finished or that they may experience wipes, maybe if this upsets you it would be advisable to stay clear of early access in general to avoid disappointment. 

 

 Again - for an official statement on the companies stance towards possible upcoming wipes (specifically crafting xp) i refer you to Braincages twitch channel.

[Ruthless4u]

If you go to twitch and look for Braincage's channel, you can look at a very recent recorded video he has of a long Q+A with a dev - In this Q+A he is VERY specific that with the rework of the crafting system they expected there to be a crafting xp wipe and probably a commodities(assets wipe). 

 

 This hasn't been something they have kept a secret - they have been very open about the probability of an expected crafting xp wipe- if people did the smallest amount of research or even asked in open chat channels they would have been informed of this fact - 

 

 The game still has  a huge amount of work to be done, currently its very bare bones as a product and any major reworks of game mechanics or design will probably require a wipe of xp, assets or both. Its the same with all games that are still in development. The crafting system is a place holder at present. Any game development company that tells you there is 0% chance of a wipe during beta testing is lying and or very naive.

 

 People seem to buy into early access and then get upset that either the game isnt finished or that they may experience wipes, maybe if this upsets you it would be advisable to stay clear of early access in general to avoid disappointment. 

 

 Again - for an official statement on the companies stance towards possible upcoming wipes (specifically crafting xp) i refer you to Braincages twitch channel.

I belive the developers have stated everything but XP( rank) can be wiped. They seem pretty adamant about not wiping rank.

[wtfcyno]

They will not wipe rank exp. But the amount required for each rank could change meaning we could lose (or gain) ranks.

[Henry d'Esterre Darby]

They will not wipe rank exp. But the amount required for each rank could change meaning we could lose (or gain) ranks.

 

Correct.

[Cpt Farragut]

If you go to twitch and look for Braincage's channel, you can look at a very recent recorded video he has of a long Q+A with a dev - In this Q+A he is VERY specific that with the rework of the crafting system they expected there to be a crafting xp wipe and probably a commodities(assets wipe).

This hasn't been something they have kept a secret - they have been very open about the probability of an expected crafting xp wipe- if people did the smallest amount of research or even asked in open chat channels they would have been informed of this fact -

The game still has a huge amount of work to be done, currently its very bare bones as a product and any major reworks of game mechanics or design will probably require a wipe of xp, assets or both. Its the same with all games that are still in development. The crafting system is a place holder at present. Any game development company that tells you there is 0% chance of a wipe during beta testing is lying and or very naive.

People seem to buy into early access and then get upset that either the game isnt finished or that they may experience wipes, maybe if this upsets you it would be advisable to stay clear of early access in general to avoid disappointment.

Again - for an official statement on the companies stance towards possible upcoming wipes (specifically crafting xp) i refer you to Braincages twitch channel.

I'm sorry I didn't go to an unaffiliated source for my info and I offended you. Fwiw, Braincagr is great, but I don't watch often.

That being said, players are being rewarded for playing by keeping their XP. It is therefore perfectly reasonable to expect crafters to be as well. If no one crafted, they would have minimal data to know about the need for or how to perform a rework. Maybe it's not XP, but a few dropped or unique BPs could be an option.

[jodgi]

Agree, Farra.

Though, I don't expect. I just weakly, hat in hand, hope and beg. ????

[Lord Roberts]

Don't think they will wipe XP anymore, if they did I could only imagine how many people would quit.

[Hethwill, the Red Duke]

Redeemables are usually a "on release" thing. Meaning they come and go at devs whim during testing phases and get definite upon final edition release.