rommel22 Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 This is just ridiculous. Not only that its almost impossible to destroy them on their own. Now the AI brings them with, every time they attack me. It deploys them where the line infantry attack and just fire point blank at me. Are these artillery batteries of tanks? 1
David Fair Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 Refreshing to see someone who has a grasp of the horse in the Civil War. The concept of "horse" for mobility is not currently in the game. So yes, artillery battery mobility is similar to a Panzer Division; and artillery effectiveness is closer to the Franco-Prussian war (after the invention of the percussion fuse in 1870). Cavalry operate more like Napoleonic cavalry mounted on a herd sired by Sleipnir. I've charged with cavalry 17 times in a single phase. When I worked on a ranch I never had a horse with this much stamina. During the Civil War cavalry had the choice of inaction or suicide against infantry. Which is why the East Cavalry Field exists at Gettysburg - a cavalry vs. cavalry battle. In UGG I've had the Iron Brigade routed by a frontal cavalry charge.
lotharr51 Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 Yeah, the artillery needs some tweaks. I also think it would be cool if we could capture guns.
SoldierAmerican Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 I have encountered this to, I had to "FOCUS" fire at least 3 arty batterys to make the enemy arty rout.
mrstarfishh33 Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 For me it is just super hard to find lines of sight and proper elevation for batteries. 1
soccercw Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 For me it is just super hard to find lines of sight and proper elevation for batteries. Agreed, and I'm sure they're working on fixing it. It's near impossible to tell what your "line of sight" is. For arty you should be able to click on a unit and it should show it's field of firing view with all other spots greyed so it's obvious what it can and can not hit from where it's at. Right now I feel I put them in good position but the LOS is way to restricting at the moment, especially since you can't really tell what it is by looking. So my "good position" I feel I'm in ends up having the guns sit there not firing at anyone. Needs some tweaking it'll happen I'm sure
David Fair Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 I'm not a fan of trying to manage artillery targets with LOS exclusively because it is too nuanced to comprehend quickly. I've been requesting that when you click on an artillery battery the LOS appears and all potential targets are highlighted with a red target over all of the units that can be targeted from the current location. If your artillery battery is screened by friendly units the targets appear as light red (pink) so that the player knows that he needs to adjust troops to give the artillery clear fields of fire. When you select a target the targeting disappears until you click on the artillery battery to select potential new targets. Currently if you select a target you get the blue move arrow. If a target cannot be targeted from the artillery batteries current location the battery starts to move. Often to its destruction.
David Fair Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Hi soldieramerica, during the American Civil War it was difficult in the extreme to make artillery batteries "rout" with counter battery fire. The fact that you can "rout" an artillery battery at all with counter battery fire is a bit of an anachronism. Guns and crews have a very small threat surface; which is why the artillerymen on both sides suffered only about 10% casualties. The artillery in UGG is dramatically over-powered. For your consideration here are a couple of data points from Gettysburg: Calef's battery of 6 guns at Gettysburg was fired on by 36 CSA guns from 9 batteries. It was not until Buford retreated that Calef withdrew his guns. Prior to Pickett's Charge >200 CSA guns fired for 2 hours. The only battery that was withdrawn (not routed) was the 1st Rhode Island Artillery Battery B (Brown's Battery). Over the entire 3 day battle one gun (of the 600 at Gettysburg) was destroyed by counter battery fire. On July 2nd 14 CSA guns were withdrawn from Benner's Hill after an artillery duel. 3 batteries of howitzers were withdrawn due to losses of horses and equipment (caissons and limbers primarily) when they tried to cover the retreat from Pickett's Charge from a possible counter attack. Note that the CSA lost precisely 1 gun at Gettysburg. The gun barrel had burst and was abandoned on the field. More CSA guns were disabled by feeding them the wrong caliber ammunition than were "routed" by counter battery fire.
soccercw Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Hey David. You make a valid point on casualties. I think seeing it as a morale thing instead of casualties may help. While casualties were low in general, counter battery fire was effective in moving guns back from their positions on both sides at Gettysburg (Barlow's Knoll, Benner's Hill). There has to be a way to eventually move guns back off a point. Maybe now it's too dramatic and could use tweaking tough
David Fair Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 soccercw, it was not the counter battery fire that drove the guns off of Barlow's Knoll - the Union infantry collapsed and routed. The guns covered the retreat by falling back by section and leapfrogging back to the defensive positions on Culp's Hill and Cemetery Hill. It was largely the heroics of the guns that save half of XI Corps from total destruction during the rout. Chancellorsville is another example of the Union artillery slowing the CSA advance long enough for the AoP infantry to regain their composure and fight the ANV to a standstill. Note that Pickett's Charge was the largest concentration of guns in any battle during the entire Civil War. The Union artillery stopped firing after 15 minutes to preserve ammunition for the infantry attack. The CSA barrage lasted two hours. Only one battery was rotated out of the Union line - primarily to resupply ammunition. If guns weren't "driven off the line" during this artillery duel in my mind it is difficult to argue that counter battery fire was "effective" during the American Civil War. Note that the data from the U. S. Army Artillery School at Ft. Sill also presents Civil War artillery effectiveness at lower than the Napoleonic Wars. Artillery inflicted only 8% of all casualties during the war. At Gettysburg there were 50,000 rounds fired resulting in about 4,000 casualties. The threat of canister fire, the ability to "limber to the rear" at trot or gallop gave the guns the ability to get away from formed infantry. Note how few guns were captured during Civil War battles vs. the Napoleonic Wars or the Lace Wars. Batteries without infantry support generally fell back in the face of enemy skirmishers who could pick of men and horses. The images of Bigelow's battery is a great example. Bigelow's 9th Massachusetts battery was ordered to hold at all costs. The CSA skirmishers killed 80 horses and killed or wounded 30 of the 110 men. http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/MA/9MABatty.php The Benner's Hill is might be more persuasive and sort of supports your comment. These guns were brought up to support the CSA attack on Culp's Hill. They failed to drive any guns, or men, off of the Union lines and the CSA attack suffered heavily. Note that the guns on Benner's Hill withdrew AFTER they ran low on ammunition. I'm trying to think of a Civil War example that supports the notion that guns were effective at driving each other out of action. It seems the general case was that guns were almost completely ineffective at driving enemy guns out of action. Benner's Hill and the post Pickett's Charge covering action with the CSA howitzer batteries are the only examples that stand out in my mind at Gettysburg. Note that the howitzer batteries did not have the range to defend themselves from the Union guns and pulled back with the CSA infantry retreating after the charge. It's difficult to say that the guns were "driven off point" when they were covering the retreat and falling back with the CSA infantry. If you have some examples of counter battery fire effectively driving guns off the line I'd enjoy looking into them. I just honestly can't think of situations that support the idea that guns were effective at counter battery fire. Some batteries were rotated at the Peach Orchard but again this was due primarily to ammunition rather than morale. In my mind there is a difference between batteries that were rotated out of action and replaced with fresh batteries. It is certainly the case that both the North and South pulled batteries out of the line to resupply ammunition. Please note there is a tremendous amount of first-hand anecdotal talk about specific actions. However, when you look at the after action reports that were filed the evidence of artillery dominance in the Civil War is debunked rather rapidly. Note that both General Hunt and General Pendleton argued that battery commanders should be upgraded from Lieutenants to higher commands levels (Captains or Majors). Neither officer was successful because the artillery was such an impotent combat arm during the Civil War. I'd be delighted to change my perspective.
soccercw Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Hey Dave, Mike by the way. While off the top of my head I can't provide many specific examples, the notes and letters from EP Alexander tell me that during the battle, and even after, it was beleived that they could move the union artillery off with their own. From a command perspective if that was even suggested to be a possibility then you have to believe that it was a tactic in existence at the time. _______________________ "Hd. Qrs., July 3rd, 1863. "Colonel: "If the artillery fire does not have the effect to drive off the enemy or greatly demoralize him so as to make our efforts pretty certain, I would prefer that you should not advise General Pickett to make the charge. I shall rely a great deal on your good judgment to determine the matter, and shall expect you to let General Pickett know when the moment offers. "Respectfully,"J. Longstreet, Lieutenant General.To Colonel E.P. Alexander, Artillery." This note at once suggested that there was some alternative to the attack, and placed me on the responsibility of deciding the question. I endeavored to avoid it by giving my views in a note, of which I kept no copy, but of which I have always retained a vivid recollection, having discussed its points with General A.R. Wright as I wrote it. It was expressed very nearly as follows: "General: "I will only be able to judge of the effect of our fire on the enemy by his return fire, for his infantry is but little exposed to view and the smoke will obscure the whole field. If, as I infer from your note, there is any alternative to this attack, it should be carefully considered before opening our fire, for it will take all the artillery ammunition we have left to test this one thoroughly, and, if the result is unfavorable, we will have none left for another effort. And even if this is entirely successful it can only be so at a very bloody cost. "Very respectfully, &c.,"E.P. Alexander, Colonel Artillery." To this note I soon received the following reply -- the original still in my possession. "Hd. Qrs., July 3rd, 1863. "Colonel: "The intention is to advance the infantry if the artillery has the desired effect of driving the enemy's off, or having other effect such as to warrant us in making the attack. When that moment arrives advise General P., and of course advance such artillery as you can use in aiding the attack. "Respectfully,"J. Longstreet, Lieutenant General, Commanding."To Colonel Alexander." ___________________________________ Another note of his stated "If you are coming at all you must come immediately or I cannot give you proper support; but the enemy's fire has not slackened materially, and at least 18 guns are still firing from the Cemetery itself." This alone tells me his fire was purely intended to mvoe the guns off the hill as a tactic. As I previously stated though, I agree it needs to be nerfed a bit. But history shows moving batteries off locations with your own was a sound concept at the time. http://www.civilwar.org/battlefields/gettysburg/gettysburg-history-articles/e-p-alexander-at-gettysburg.html
David Fair Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Hi Mike, The thing to keep in mind in this exchange is that Longstreet was trying to find a way, any way possible, NOT to launch Pickett's Charge which he believed would be a disaster. When ordered to charge Longstreet argued heatedly with General Lee that the Union position could not be taken. A staff officer reported he heard Longstreet say there aren't 17,000 men on earth that could take that position. Lee insisted that the attack go forward. At that point Longstreet attempted to get Colonel Alexander to confirm that the Union center had not been cracked by the artillery barrage. Both men knew at the time and acknowledged later that they knew that the barrage had not been successful. Longstreet attempted to get Alexander to give his honest professional opinion that the artillery barrage had been unsuccessful to avoid giving the order to charge. Alexander refused to carry the responsibility for countermanding an order directly from General Lee. Note that General Hunt had dinner with Alexander after the war and asked about the artillery barrage at Gettysburg. In that exchange Alexander acknowledged that Lee had given the order to charge and so they did the best they could. It was not faith in artillery counter battery fire effectiveness that launched Pickett's Charge - it was faith in General Lee's judgement. Your interpretation is interesting; inferring that implied intent of a tactic suggests belief in the success of the tactic? It feels like you are really stretching to get to this conclusion from the dialog. The officers who were on the scene knew they hadn't driven off the Union guns. They knew the only battery to leave the Union line was Battery B because they said they saw it leave. Longstreet ordered the charge after Battery B rotated out of the line. Lee was unwilling to leave Gettysburg without trying to secure a negotiated peace by a victory at Gettysburg. Lee was in a state of denial. Lee had ordered the charge despite Longstreet's objection. Alexander wanted more time and ammunition before he thought the attack would succeed. When Alexander realized and told Longstreet it would take 2 hours to resupply his artillery ammunition Longstreet ordered the attack. Why would Lee believe this artillery barrage succeed? Lee had 3 years of experience knowing that no other artillery barrage had ever succeeded in driving off massed enemy guns in any of the previous battles of the American Civil War. Finally, if you refer to the "Artillerists Manual" it is clear that the artillery officers knew and stated openly that the "artillery's bark is worse than its bite", "artillery's effect is primarily a psychological more than physical", and they talk openly and specifically about the difficulties and ineffectiveness of counter battery fire. One of the questions asked in the manual is if counter battery fire was worth the ammunition. General Hunt ordered batteries to "fire deliberately" for counter battery (not more than one round every five minutes). These are primary sources from professionals who were writing the tactical doctrines for artillery and leading the artillery in action during the Civil War. I've just never seen any data from any source that supports the thesis that counter battery fire was effective. At the same time I've seen a tremendous amount of compelling data suggesting counter battery fire was ineffective. This includes the numbers of guns remaining in action, reports from the AoP hospitals, AAR's from commanders, regimental and battery histories, etc...
squishband Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 On a slightly different tack. Twice today I had artillery routed when advanced upon by infantry, even though I had set them to canister and they were ready to fire, they didn't even let off what was loaded before they fell back.
TDuke Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Yeah, the artillery needs some tweaks. I also think it would be cool if we could capture guns. Yes being able to capture guns would be terrific and would add a lot of deep to gameplay imho. As to cavarly behaviour well I personally like its "napoleonic attitude" (after all I'm a napoleonic warfare maniac) but of course it's quite unhistorical ... Anyway I think (but may be wrong) Nick chose Gettysburg and the ACW era for "a simplification purpouse" (just two factions, similar battlegrounds etc) to give us a "simple" but very deep and "serious" wargame without being too much chained to the specific warfare scenario. Longing for multiplayer...
MkGriff1492 Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Yeah, the artillery needs some tweaks. I also think it would be cool if we could capture guns. I agree capture guns would be cool. I would like to see this added to the game but don't think it needs to be done yet at this stage.
David Fair Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Mike, Here is the data on the Union guns at Gettysburg. Analysis of Union Artillery Losses Summary: 1st Corps: Reynolds 28 guns 596 men ( 9 KIA; 11 MIA; 86 wounded) 18% casualties 2nd Corps: Hancock 28 guns 605 men (27 KIA; 3 MIA; 119 wounded) 25% casualties 3rd Corps: Sickles 30 guns 596 men ( 8 KIA; 17 MIA; 81 wounded) 18% casualties 5th Corps: Sykes 26 guns 432 men (10 KIA; 2 MIA; 7 wounded) 4% casualties 6th Corps: Sedgwick 46 guns 937 men ( 4 KIA; 0 MIA; 8 wounded) 1% casualties 11th Corps: Howard 26 guns 604 men ( 7 KIA; 9 MIA; 53 wounded) 11% casualties 12rd Corps: Slocum 20 guns 391 men ( 0 KIA; 0 MIA; 9 wounded) 2% casualties Cavalry Corps: Pleasonton 52 guns 925 men ( 4 KIA; 0 MIA; 19 wounded) 2% casualties Artillery Reserve: Tyler 110 guns 2,376 men (43 KIA; 12 MIA; 187 wounded) 10% casualties Artillery Grand Total = 356 guns 7,353 men (112 KIA; 54 MIA; 569 wounded) 10% casualties 21 Union guns were disabled during the battle (4 by counter battery fire; 11 by capture [likely spiking the guns]; 1 burst barrel; 1 gun struck on muzzle; 4 unserviceable due to casualties). Note – Minor discrepancy between “order of battle” and “stone sentinels”. My guess is that the upper echelon commanders were not aware of the actual strength of their commands on the “stone sentinels” and there may have been a number of men absent or alternatively local men who fought with units at Gettysburg who did not “muster in”. The artillery would be a logical place for untrained men to serve. Many of the tasks supporting guns require no training [grunt work]. Specifically, for example, the “runner” on a gun crew is one of the most tiring jobs [running ammunition from the caisson to the gun]. Untrained men could also manage the backbreaking logistics of the artillery brigade’s wagon to resupply caissons, holding horse teams, etc… For example the “stone sentinels” for 1st Corps individual batteries total 642 men. This is 42 men more than the total for the “stone sentinel” 1st Corps Artillery Battalion’s 596 men. I’d suspect the 642 is the closer to correct number. With this observation I’d suggest deferring to the numbers in the summary above. The summary ties to the Corps-level “stone sentinels” (immediately below) and the “order of battle” at http://www.bio.brandeis.edu/classes/hist150b/battleorder.html See: · AoP HQ Monument: http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ/HQ-AOP.php · 1st Corps: http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ/HQ-1.php · 2nd Corps: http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ/HQ-2.php · 3rd Corps: http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ/HQ-3.php · 5th Corps: http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ/HQ-5.php · 6th Corps: http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ/HQ-6.php · 11th Corps: http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ/HQ-11.php · 12th Corps: http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ/HQ-12.php · Cavalry Corps: http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ/HQ-Cav.php · Artillery Reserve: http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ/HQ-ArtRes.php 1st Corps: Reynolds 1st Corps Artillery Brigade (28 guns 596 men) (9 KIA; 11 MIA; 86 wounded) 18% casualties See: http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ/HQ-1-Art.php 2nd Maine B (Hall’s) Battery 127 men (18 wounded) 14% casualties 6 Ordnance Rifles July 1 Chambersburg Pike & Seminary Ridge July 2 Cemetery Hill See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ME/2MeArt.php 5th Maine (Steven’s) Battery 136 men (3 KIA; 7 MIA; 13 wounded) 17% 6 Napoleons 979 rounds fired July 1 Seminary Ridge July 2 Cemetery Hill “…double canister [“poured”] into their ranks…” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ME/5MeArt.php 1st New York L (Reynold’s) Battery 141 men (1 KIA; 1 MIA; 15 wounded) 12% casualties 6 Ordnance Rifles “1 gun captured in the fighting west of town” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/NY/1NYArtBatL.php 1st Pennsylvania B (Cooper’s) Battery 114 men (3 KIA; 9 wounded) 11% casualties 4 Ordnance Rifles 1050 rounds fired (4 guns) ~8 hours (1 round every 2 minutes/gun) July 1 from 1-4 pm Chambersburg Pike & Seminary Ridge 4 pm “heavy artillery contest with the enemy’s batteries on Benner’s Hill” July 3 “engaged…final attack and second repulse of the enemy” [Pickett’s Charge] See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/PA/1PaArtBatB.php 4th U.S. B (Stewart’s) Battery 124 men (2 KIA; 3 MIA; 31 wounded) 29% casualties 6 Napoleons July 1 Seminary Ridge repositioned to Cemetery Hill “Two guns on the [baltimore] Pike and two in the field have been disabled” July 2 & 3 “Remained in this position” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/US/4USartB.php 2nd Corps: Hancock 2nd Corps Artillery Brigade 28 guns 605 men (27 KIA; 3 MIA; 119 wounded) 25% casualties See: http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ/HQ-2-Art.php 1st New York B (“Empire” or Rorty’s) Battery 114 men (10 KIA; 16 wounded) 23% casualties 4 10-Pound Parrotts July 2 “fought near the Wheatfield” July 3 “directly in the path of Pickett’s Charge” “Three of the battery’s cannon were disabled in the bombardment preceding the charge” “Rorty borrowed a score of men from the 19th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment to keep the gun firing” “Kemper’s Virginians briefly overran the battery in a flurry of hand to hand fighting” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/NY/1NYArtBatB.php 1st Rhode Island A (Arnold’s) Battery 139 men (4 KIA; 24 wounded) 20% casualties 6 Ordnance Rifles July 2 Cemetery Ridge July 3 “Hancock overruled batteries under his immediate control, ordering them to return [counter battery] fire [prior to Pickett’s Charge] to give moral support to the infantry” 1 gun destroyed by counter battery fire. Long range ammunition exhausted “four of the serviceable guns pulled back. The final gun “was wheeled up to the stone wall for fire canister into the approaching Rebels. That gun fired the rest of the battery’s canister, the last double-shotted into Confederates who had almost reached the wall.” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/RI/1RIBatA.php 1st Rhode Island B (Brown’s) Battery 103 men (7 KIA; 2 MIA; 19 wounded) 27% casualties 6 Napoleons July 2 Overrun by Wright’s Georgia Brigade 2 pieces abandoned by Emmitsburg Road (spiked by CSA) & another abandoned by Cemetery Ridge. All three guns recovered by Union countercharges. “One gun…restored to service for the next day.” July 3 [Preceding Pickett’s Charge]“One gun was struck on the muzzle by a Confederate shell…distorted [the] muzzle.” Ammunition exhausted the 3 serviceable guns withdrawn by order of General Hunt. Uncalculated consequence: “Longstreet’s Artillery Chief, E. Porter Alexander, saw it leave. Union gunfire was also slackening following orders from Hunt and Meade. Alexander reported that the Union artillery on the [Cemetery] ridge – all of it – was pulling back. if Pickett were to charge, now was the time. And so it was that Battery B helped launch Pickett’s Charge.” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/RI/1RIBatB.php 1st U.S. I (Woodruff’s) Battery 112 men (1 KIA; 29 wounded) 27% casualties 6 Napoleons 2 & 3 July Cemetery Hill “assisted in repelling Longstreet’s Assault [Pickett’s Charge]” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/US/1USartI.php 4thU.S. AI (Cushing’s) Battery 126 men (6 KIA; 32 wounded) 30% casualties 6 Ordnance Rifles July 2 “took part in the artillery engagements during the day July 3 “Engaged in the repulse of Longstreet’s Assault [Pickett’s Charge]” 5 guns disabled and all horses “but three” disabled [83 out of 90; 92% Horses KIA/disabled]. See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/US/4USartA.php 3rd Corps: Sickles 3nd Corps Artillery Brigade 30 guns 596 men (8 KIA; 17 MIA; 81 wounded) 18% casualties See: http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ/HQ-3-Art.php 1st New Jersey B (Clark’s) Battery (Judson commanding) 143 men (1 KIA; 3 MIA; 16 wounded) 14% casualties 6 10-Pound Parrotts July 2 in the Peach Orchard - 1,300 rounds fired in 5 hours withdrawn when ammunition was exhausted July 3 “in line with the Artillery Brigade…but not engaged” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/NJ/1NJArtBatB.php 1st New York D (Winslow’s) Battery 116 men (8 MIA; 10 wounded) 16% 6 Napoleons See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/NY/1NYArtBatD.php 4th New York Independent (Smith’s) Battery 135 men (2 KIA; 10 wounded; 1 captured) 10% 6 10-Pound Parrotts 3 guns captured and used by CSA 240 rounds fired in 4 hours (11 Horses KIA/disabled) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/NY/4NYBatt.php 1st Rhode Island E (Bucklyn’s Battery) 116 men (3 KIA; 26 wounded) 25% casualties 6 Napoleons See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/RI/1RIBatE.php 4th U.S. Artillery K (Seely’s) Battery 134 men (2 KIA; 4 MIA; 19 wounded) 19% casualties 6 Napoleons July 2 engaged for 3 hours in the Peach Orchard & Wheat Field (28 Horses KIA/disabled) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/US/4USartK.php 5th Corps: Sykes 5th Corps Artillery Brigade 26 guns 432 men (10 KIA; 2 MIA; 7 wounded) 4% casualties See: http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ/HQ-5-Art.php 3rd Massachusetts (Walcott’s) Battery 124 men (No casualties reported) 0% casualties 6 Napoleons July 3 “At 3 am moved to and occupied this position until the close of the battle” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/MA/3MABatty.php 1st New York C (Barnes) Battery 88 men (“No losses”) 0% casualties 4 Ordnance Rifles July 3 “transferred to the left flank of Big Round Top” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/NY/1NYArtBatC.php 1st Ohio L (Gibbs’s) Battery 121 men (2 wounded) 2% casualties 6 Napoleons July 2 “went into position under a brisk skirmish fire on the extreme right of Wolf Hill” moved to Little Round Top July 3 Held same [Little Round Top] position” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/OH/1OHArtBatL.php 5th U.S. D (Hazlett’s) Battery 68 men (9 KIA; 5 wounded) 21% casualties 6 10-Pound Parrotts July 2 & 3 Little Round Top See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/US/5USartD.php 5th U.S. I (Watson’s) Battery 71 men (1 KIA; 2 MIA; 19 wounded) 31% casualties 4 Ordnance Rifles 2 July 4:30 pm “moved to the front at the Peach Orchard.” “[battery] captured by the 21st Mississippi Infantry. It was almost immediately recaptured with the assistance of the 39th New York Infantry and being unserviceable was taken to the Artillery Brigade.” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/US/5USartI.php 6th Corps: Sedgwick 6th Corps Artillery Brigade 46 guns 937 men (4 KIA; 8 wounded) 1% casualties See: http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ/HQ-6-Art.php Note – Arrived on 2 July and placed under the command of General Hunt Chief of Artillery AoP 1st Massachusetts (McCartney’s) Battery 145 men (No casualties reported) 0% casualties 6 Napoleons 4 rounds fired See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/MA/1MABattyA.php 1st New York Independent (Cowan’s) Battery 113 men (4 KIA; 8 wounded) 11% casualties 6 Ordnance Rifles 3 July “…Confederate lines [Pickett’s Charge] were over the defenses and within ten yards of our guns….” Note bas relief on monument “Double Canister at Ten Yards” (14 Horses KIA/disabled) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/NY/1NYBatt.php 3rd New York Independent (Harn’s) Battery 119 men (“No losses”) 0% casualties 6 10-Pound Parrotts See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/NY/3NYBatt.php 1st Rhode Island C (Waterman’s) Battery 116 men 6 Ordnance Rifles No Monument – This battery lost 27 men during the entire American Civil War so it is likely that if they had casualties at Gettysburg they were very light. 1st Rhode Island G (Adams’s) Battery 116 men 6 10-Pound Parrotts No Monument– This battery lost 30 men during the entire American Civil War so it is likely that if they had casualties at Gettysburg they were very light. 2nd U.S. D (Williston’s) Battery 126 men (“Not engaged”) 0% casualties 4 Napoleons See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/US/2USartD.php 2nd U.S. G (Butler’s) Battery 113 men (“Suffered no casualties”) 0% casualties 6 Napoleons 3 July “on repulse of Longstreet’s Assault [Pickett’s Charge]” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/US/2USartG.php 5th U.S. F (Martin’s) Battery 113 men (“Suffered no casualties”) 0% casualties 6 10-Pound Parrotts 3 July “on repulse of Longstreet’s Assault [Pickett’s Charge]” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/US/5USartF.php 11th Corps: Howard 6th Corps Artillery Brigade 26 guns 604 men (7 KIA; 9 MIA; 53 wounded) 11% casualties See: http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ/HQ-11-Art.php 1st New York I (Wiedrich’s) Battery 141 men (3 KIA; 10 wounded) 9% casualties 6 Ordnance Rifles 1-4 July “fought on Cemetery Hill” Battery was overrun on July 2 and retaken by the 73rd Pennsylvania Infantry. Bronze Table of the 73rd directly below. Weidrich’s Battery follows. (See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/PhotoGallery/Bronze-Pennsylvania_73.php) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/NY/1NYArtBatI.php 13th New York Independent (Wheeler’s) Battery 118 men (3 MIA; 8 wounded) 9% casualties 4 Ordnance Rifles 1 July engaged north of Gettysburg 2 July Cemetery Hill 3 July “repulse of Pickett’s Charge” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/NY/13NYArt.php 1st Ohio I (Dilger’s) Battery 127 men (13 wounded) 10% casualties 6 Napoleons 1 July engaged north of Gettysburg “silenced [2 CSA batteries] with a loss of five gun carriages” 2 July “extreme right…on Cemetery Hill” “One gun disabled” (28 Horses KIA/disabled) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/OH/1OHArtBatI.php 1st Ohio K (Heckman’s) Battery 118 men (2 KIA; 2 MIA; 11 wounded) 13% casualties 4 Napoleons See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/OH/1OHArtBatK.php 4th U.S. G (Wilkinson’s) Battery 115 men (2 KIA; 4 MIA; 11 wounded) 15% casualties 6 Napoleons 1 July Barlow’s Knoll “Retired about 4 pm…About 5 pm took position on Cemetery Hill” 1,400 rounds fired in action for 8.5 hours (31 Horses KIA/disabled) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/US/4USartG.php 12rd Corps: Slocum 12th Corps Artillery Brigade 20 guns 391 men (0 KIA; 0 MIA; 9 wounded) 2% casualties See: http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ/HQ-12-Art.php 1st New York M (Winegar’s) Battery 96 men (“suffered no losses”) 0% casualties 4 10-Pound Parrotts “[From Power’s Hill]…duel with Confederate pieces on Benner’s Hill” See http://www.civilwarintheeast.com/USA/NY/NY1artM.php and http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/NY/1NYArtBatM.php Pennsylvania Independent E (Knap’s) Battery (Atwell commanding) 135 men (3 wounded) 2% casualties 6 10-Pound Parrotts July 2 Culp’s Hill “”…5 pm when the three guns engaged the enemy’s batteries on Benner’s Hill” July 3 Power’s Hill See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/PA/PaIndArtBatE.php 4th U.S. F (Rugg’s) Battery 89 men (1 wounded) 6 Napoleons 1 - 3 July Culp’s Hill area See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/US/4USartF.php 5th U.S. K (Kinzie’s) Battery 77 men (5 wounded) 4 Napoleons 1 July Culp’s Hill 2 July Culp’s Hill “…assisted in silencing Confederate Batteries on Benner’s Hill. At 6 pm rejoined the battery at the foot of Power’s Hill” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/US/5USartK.php Cavalry Corps: Pleasonton Cavalry Corps Artillery Brigade 52 guns 925 men (4 KIA; 0 MIA; 19 wounded) 2% casualties See: http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/AOPCavCorps.php 3rd Pennsylvania Heavy Artillery H (Rank’s) Battery 52 men (1 MIA) 2% casualties 2 Ordnance Rifles “…attached themselves to McIntosh’s Cavalry Brigade” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/PA/3PaHvArt.php 1st Horse Artillery Brigade 28 guns 490 men (2 KIA; 0 MIA; 6 wounded) 2% casualties See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ/HQ-Cav-HA-1.php 9th Michigan (Daniels’s) Battery 119 men (1 KIA; 4 wounded) 4% casualties 6 Ordnance Rifles 322 rounds fired (23 Horses KIA/disabled) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/MI/9MiArt.php 6th New York Independent (Martin’s) Battery 130 men (1 wounded) 1% casualties 6 Ordnance Rifles …in reserve for the battle…” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/NY/6NYBatt.php 2nd U.S. B & L Consolidated (Heaton’s) Battery 99 men (No casualties) 0% casualties 2 July “In reserve…” 6 Ordnance Rifles 3 July “…for a time exposes to a severe fire. In the evening withdrawn…” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/US/2USartBL.php 2nd U.S. M (Pennington’s) Battery 117 men (1 wounded) 1% casualties 6 Ordnance Rifles 3 July “Engaged in Brig. General Custer’s Brigade with Major General J.E.B. Stuart’s Confederate Cavalry on the right of the Union Army” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/US/2USartM.php 4th U.S. E (Elder’s) Battery 60 men (1 KIA) 2% casualties 4 Ordnance Rifles 3 July “Arrived on the field and took position on a hill southwest of Round Top and engaged [serving] under Brig. General E.J. Farnsworth in the afternoon against the Confederate right” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/US/4USartE.php 2nd Horse Artillery Brigade 22 guns 435 men (2 KIA; 0 MIA; 13 wounded) 3% casualties See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ/HQ-Cav-HA-1.php 1st U.S. E & G Consolidated (Randol’s) Battery 84 men (“suffered no casualties”) 0% casualties 4 Ordnance Rifles 3 July “…hotly engaged in repelling the attack of Major General Stuart’s Confederate Cavalry Division…” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/US/1USartEG.php 1st U.S. K (Graham’s) Battery 114 men (No casualties) 0% 6 Ordnance Rifles 3 July “…engaged during the attack of Brig. General E. J. Farnsworth…” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/US/1USartK.php 2nd U.S. A (Calef’s) Battery 74 men (12 wounded) 16% casualties 6 Ordnance Rifles 1 July “Advanced with the Cavalry…” 2 July “2 am marched with First Brigade of Major General John Buford’s Division to Taneytown en route to Westminster [MD]” (13 Horses KIA) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/US/2USartA.php 3rd U.S. C (Fuller’s) Battery ~120 6 Ordnance Rifles 4 July “Arrived at Emmitsburg Not engaged” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/US/3USartC.php Artillery Reserve: Tyler Artillery Reserve 110 guns 2,376 men (43 KIA; 12 MIA; 187 wounded) 10% casualties See: http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ/HQ-ArtRes.php First Regular Brigade 24 guns 445 men (13 KIA; 2 MIA; wounded 53) 15% casualties See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ/HQ-ArtRes-1Reg.php 1st U.S. H (Eakin’s) Battery 129 men (1 KIA; 1 MIA; 8 wounded) 8% casualties 6 Napoleons 2 & 3 July Cemetery Ridge See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/US/1USartH.php 3rd U.S. F & K Consolidated (Turnbull’s) Battery 145 men (9 KIA; 1 MIA; 14 wounded) 17% 6 Napoleons 2 July in the Wheat Field (on the right flank of III Corps) “…compelled to retire with the loss of 34 horses killed and 4 guns which were afterwards recaptured.” 3 July “…left of Cemetery Hill.” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/US/3USartFK.php 4th U.S. C (Thomas’s) Battery 95 men (1 KIA; 17 wounded) 19% casualties 6 Napoleons 2 & 3 July Cemetery Ridge See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/US/4USartBatC.php 5th U.S. C (Weir’s) Battery 104 men (2 KIA; 14 wounded) 15% casualties 6 Napoleons 2 July Cemetery Ridge “…The Confederates in front advanced to within a few yards no infantry opposing. Three of the guns were captured by the Confederates…but were recaptured by the 13th Vermont and another regiment.” 3 July “…[Pickett’s Charge] opened with canister at short range on the advancing Confederates… See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/US/5USartC.php First Volunteer Brigade 22 guns 385 men (17 KIA; 5 MIA; 71 wounded) 24% casualties See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ/HQ-ArtRes-1.php 5th Massachusetts E (Philips’s) Battery 104 men (7 KIA; 13 wounded) 19% casualties 6 Ordnance Rifles 700 rounds fired 2 July “Withdrew at 5 pm from the field near the Peach Orchard…” 3 July “…fired on the Confederate batteries but did little damage…assisted in repulsing the [Pickett’s] assault. A charge was made…by the Florida brigade…driving the cannoneers from their guns which they abandoned.” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/MA/5MABatty.php 9th Massachusetts (Bigelow’s) Battery 110 men 9 (10 KIA; 20 wounded) 27% casualties 6 Napoleons 2 July “…Wheatfield Road…Enfiladed with canister Kershaw’s Brigade C.S.A…By ‘prolong firing’ [using the recoil from each shot fired to move the gun rearward] retired before Kershaw’s skirmishers…ordered to hold enemy in check [Trostle’s House] until line of artillery could be formed 560 yards in the rear. Was without support and hemmed in by stone wall. Enemy closed in on flanks. Man and horses were shot down when finally overcome at 6:30 pm…7:15 pm Willard’s Brigade 2nd Corps and later Lockwood’s Brigade 12th Corps came to support of artillery. 8:00 pm the enemy finally repulsed.” 3 & 4 July “Two guns…Only officer and guns effective after engagement on Trostle’s farm July 2nd, 1863” (80 Horses KIA/disabled) 91% casualties See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/MA/9MABatty.php Note to “prolong” a gun is to manhandle the gun into position. A Rope is attached to the gun for men to pull it to a new location without a limber. See rope on cannon below and image at https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1162&bih=770&q=american+civil+war+prolong+a+gun&oq=american+civil+war+prolong+a+gun&gs_l=img.12...2854.13369.0.16458.34.13.1.20.21.0.62.641.13.13.0....0...1ac.1.32.img..12.22.689.gpXzaNudLzE#hl=en&q=american+civil+war+prolong+a+cannon&tbm=isch&facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=CakUahXQbytmOM%3A%3B15YAz1wUF1edGM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.nps.gov%252Fhistory%252Fhistory%252Fonline_books%252Fcivil_war_series%252F20%252Fimages%252Ffig44.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.nps.gov%252Fhistory%252Fhistory%252Fonline_books%252Fcivil_war_series%252F20%252Fsec5.htm%3B500%3B486 15th New York Independent (Hart’s) Battery 99 men (3 KIA; 13 wounded) 16% casualties 4 Napoleons 2 July “Engaged in the Peach Orchard…” 3 July “…open[ed] on the Confederate batteries with solid shot and shell. Upon the advance of the Confederate infantry, fired shell and shrapnel and canister when the line was within 500 yards. A second line advancing was met with double canister which dispersed it. The fire of the battery was then directed against the artillery on the Confederate right and several caissons and limbers were exploded by the shells.” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/NY/15NYBatt.php Pennsylvania Independent C & F Consolidated (Thompson’s) battery 105 men (1KIA; 3 MIA; 10 wounded) 13% casualties 6 Ordnance Rifles 2 July Peach Orchard “…most of the horses being killed and the drivers wounded.” 3 July Cemetery Ridge See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/PA/PaArtBatCF.php Second Volunteer Brigade 12 guns 241 men (1 KIA; 2 MIA; 5 wounded) 3% casualties See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ/HQ-ArtRes-2.php 1st Connecticut B (Brooker’s) Battery “Not engaged” 4 (four) 4 ½-inch Rifles; for performance characteristics see: http://www.civilwarartillery.com/tables.htm No Marker Note the total guns in the details = 106 and the total for the Artillery Reserve is 110. I suspect the missing guns are in these two Connecticut batteries. See Page 37 for the Gettysburg History, “That we were not in action at Gettysburg is much to be regretted, as was expressed by General Meade, commanding the army, and by General Hunt, Chief of Artillery. That guns of this range and caliber would have made terrible havoc in the enemy’s forming columns and lines non can doubt.” See: http://books.google.com/books?id=8RgvAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA90&lpg=PA90&dq=%221st+Connecticut+B+battery%22&source=bl&ots=yl-mbK1k_N&sig=QryOR11i9YYMFtYhL-CEPk-M3U4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=W_vjUtvZKvjMsQT864G4BQ&ved=0CFkQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=%221st%20Connecticut%20B%20battery%22&f=false 1st Connecticut M (Pratt’s) Battery “Not engaged” 4 (four) 4 ½-inch Rifles See image middle of page at: http://markerhunter.wordpress.com/2013/11/07/4-5-inch-rifle-at-kellys-ford/ No Marker 2nd Connecticut (Sterling’s) Battery 106 men (2 MIA; 3 wounded) 5% casualties 4 James Rifles and 2 (two) 12-Pound Howitzers (3 Horses KIA/disabled) 1 caisson destroyed 2 & 3 July “Engaged on Cemetery Hill” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/CT/2CTArt.php 5th New York Independent (Taft’s) Battery 146 men (1 KIA; 2 wounded) 2% casualties 6 20-Pound Parrotts 2 July Cemetery Hill “…Four guns…firing on a Confederate battery on Benner’s Hill…” 3 July 1 burst gun 1,114 rounds fired in 12 hours See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/NY/5NYBatt.php Third Volunteer Brigade 22 guns 431 men (10 KIA; 3 MIA; 24 wounded) 9% casualties See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ/HQ-ArtRes-3.php 1st New Hampshire (Edgell’s) Battery 111 men (3 wounded) 3% casualties 4 Ordnance Rifles 2 & 3 July Cemetery Hill 353 rounds fired See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/NH/1NHBatA.php 1st Ohio H (Huntington’s) Battery (Norton Commanding) 123 men (3 KIA; 4 wounded) 6% casualties 6 Ordnance Rifles 2 & 3 July Cemetery Hill See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/OH/1OHArtBatH.php 1st Pennsylvania F & G Consolidated (Ricketts’s) Battery 144 men (6 KIA; 3 MIA; 14 wounded) 17% casualties 6 Ordnance Rifles 2 July Cemetery Hill “…engaged the Rebel batteries on Benner’s Hill. 8 pm A Rebel column charged the Battery and a desperate hand-to-hand conflict ensured which was repulsed after every round of canister had been fired.” 3 July East Cemetery Hill See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/PA/1PaArtBatFG.php 1st West Virginia C (Pierpont’s) Battery 124 men (2 KIA; 2 wounded) 3% casualties 4 10-Pound Parrotts July 2 & 3 Cemetery Hill See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/WV/WVartBatC.php Fourth Volunteer Brigade 24 guns 499 men (2 KIA; 0 MIA; 34 wounded) 7% casualties See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ/HQ-ArtRes-4.php 6th Maine F (Dow’s) Battery 103 men (13 wounded) 13% casualties 4 Napoleons 3 July Cemetery Ridge “…suffered 13 men wounded in the artillery duel that preceded Pickett’s Charge…” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ME/6MeArt.php 1st Maryland A (Rigby’s) Battery 106 men (“…no casualties…”) 0% casualties 6 Ordnance Rifles July 2 & 3 Power’s Hill See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/MD/MD1artBatA.php 1st New Jersey (Hexamer’s) Battery (Parsons commanding) 116 men (2 KIA; 7 wounded) 8% casualties 6 10-Pound Parrotts 3 July “…in reserve S.W. of Power’s Hill galloped into action at 3 pm…Fired 120 rounds shrapnel at Pickett’s column, and 80 shell at a battery in left front…” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/NJ/1NJArtBatA.php 1st New York G (Ames’s) Battery 132 men (7 wounded) 6% casualties 6 Napoleons 2 July Peach Orchard 3 July Cemetery Ridge See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/NY/1NYArtBatG.php 1st New York K (Fitzhugh’s) Battery 149 men (7 wounded) 6% casualties 6 Ordnance Rifles 3 July “…assisted in repulsing Pickett’s Charge…) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/NY/1NYArtBatK.php
David Fair Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 And here is the data for the CSA: Analysis of CSA Artillery Losses Summary: First Corps: Longstreet 87 guns 2,118 men (46 KIA; 26 MIA; 211 wounded) 13% casualties Second Corps: Ewell 78 guns 1,679 men (21 KIA; 24 MIA; 82 wounded) 8% casualties Third Corps: A.P. Hill 84 guns 1,893 men (22 KIA; 29 MIA; 112 wounded) 9% casualties Cavalry Division: Stuart 17 guns 406 men (11 KIA; 0 MIA; 15 wounded) 6% casualties Artillery Grand Total = 275 guns 6,096 men (100 KIA; 79 MIA; 420 wounded) 10% casualties 8 guns were disabled during the battle (6 by counter battery fire; 1 by accident; 1 burst barrel). The most likely cause of a disabled gun was a broken wheel; which could be replaced in less than an hour with a crew of 6 men. The only gun (I can find) abandoned by the CSA at Gettysburg was the gun with the burst barrel. Horses KIA/disabled = 276 minimum (not all batteries reported losses in horseflesh) I’ve counted 65 CSA batteries at Gettysburg. You can double check my count: See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateBatteries.php 276 horses = 46 completed teams of 6 or 36% of all front line CSA artillery (gun/caisson) horses “After Gettysburg it was our habit,” wrote Stiles, “when a piece became engaged to send the horses to the rear, to some place of safety, preferring to run the risk of losing a gun occasionally rather than the team that pulled it”. Indeed, horses were so valuable that in the 1864 campaign Stiles reported that when artillery officers met, the first thing they asked each other was, “How many horses did you lose?” Philip Katcher, “The Army of Northern Virginia: Lee’s Army in the American Civil War 1861-1865” p. 52 See: · ANV HQ Monument: http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ-CSA/ANV.php · 1st Army Corps: http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ANV1Corps.php · 2nd Army Corps: http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ANV2Corps.php · 3rd Army Corps: http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ANV3Corps.php · Cavalry Division: http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ANVCav.php First Corps: Longstreet McLaws Division (16 guns 378 men) (12 KIA; 4 MIA; 31 wounded) 12% casualties (80 Horses KIA/disabled) Pulaski (GA) Battery 63 men (July 2: 6 KIA; 13 wounded) 30% casualties 2 (two) 10-Pound Parrotts 2 Ordnance Rifles Ammunition exhausted (30 minutes in Peach Orchard) in 7 hours (18 Horses KIA/disabled) July 3 operational See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Pulaski.php Carlton’s Battery (Troup County (GA) Light Battery) 94 men (1 KIA; 6 wounded) 7% casualties 2 (two) 12-Pound Howitzers and 2 (two) 10-Pound Parrotts Ammunition exhausted in 9.5 hours (in Peach Orchard) (17 Horses KIA/disabled) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Troup.php 1st NC Artillery Battery A (Manly’s Battery) 131 men (3 KIA; 4 MIA; 4 wounded) 8% casualties 2 (two) 12-Pound Howitzers and 2 Ordnance Rifles 1146 rounds expended over 15 hours (in Peach Orchard) (20 Horses KIA/disabled) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/NC1artBatA.php 1st Richmond (VA) Howitzer Battery (McCarthy’s Battery) 90 men (2 KIA; 8 wounded) 11% 2 Napoleons and 2 Ordnance Rifles 850 rounds expended in 9 hours (in Peach Orchard) (25 Horses KIA/disabled) 1 gun disabled See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Richmond1Howitzers.php Pickett’s Division (18 guns 419 men) (8 KIA; 17 wounded) 6% casualties (25 Horses KIA/disabled) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ-CSA/ANV-1-Pickett-Dearing.php Fauguier (VA) Battery 134 men (No losses reported) 4 Napoleons and 2 (two) 20-Pound Parrotts Ammunition exhausted in 2 hours See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Fauquier.php Lynchburg (VA) Battery (Blount’s) 96 men (No losses reported) 4 Napoleons Ammunition exhausted in 2 hours See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Blount.php Richmond (Fayette, VA) (Macon’s) Battery 90 men (No losses reported) 2 Napoleons and 2 (two) 10-Pound Parrotts Ammunition exhausted in 2 hours See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/RichmondFayette.php Richmond (Hampden, VA) (Caskie’s) Battery 90 men (No losses reported) 2 Napoleons, 1 Ordnance Rifle, and 1 (one) 10-Pound Parrott Ammunition exhausted in 2 hours See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Hampden.php Hood’s Division (19 guns 403 men) (4 KIA; 23 wounded) 7% casualties 1500 rounds fired on July 2 & 3. See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ-CSA/ANV-1-Hood-Henry.php 1st NC Artillery (Reilly’s) Battery D (The Rowan Artillery) 148 men (No losses reported) 2 Napoleons, 2 Ordnance Rifles, and 2 (two) 10-Pound Parrotts 1 burst rifle; replaced with captured Union pieces (Smith’s Battery) 3 hours firing & participated in repelling Farnsworth’s Cavalry Charge See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Rowan.php The Branch Artillery (NC) (Latham’s Battery) 112 men (No losses reported) 3 Napoleons, 1 (one) 12-Pound Howitzer, and 1 (one) 6-Pound field gun Howitzer and gun disabled; replaced with 2 captured Union pieces (Smith’s Battery) 3 hours firing & participated in repelling Farnsworth’s Cavalry Charge See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Branch.php Charleston (SC) “German” Light (Bachman’s) Battery 71 men (No losses reported) 4 Napoleons 3 hours firing & participated in repelling Farnsworth’s Cavalry Charge See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/German.php Palmetto (SC) Light Garden’s) Battery (Garden commanding) 63 men (No losses reported) 2 Napoleons and 2 (two) 10-Pound Parrotts 3 hours firing & participated in repelling Farnsworth’s Cavalry Charge See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Palmetto.php First Corps Reserve Artillery (43 guns 918 men) (22 KIA; 22 MIA; 140 wounded) 20% casualties Alexander’s Battalion (24 guns 576 men) Losses not reported by individual battery (19 KIA; 6 MIA; 114 wounded) 20% casualties The sum total of the losses in my battalion during the period covered by this report are as follows: In the battle of Gettysburg, July 2 and 3, killed, 19; wounded, 114; missing, 6; total, 139 men. There were also 2 killed and 3 wounded of a detachment of 8 gallant Mississippians at Captain Moody's guns, who volunteered to help maneuver them on very difficult ground. Horses killed and disabled in action, 116. Many of my wounded sent to Cashtown fell into the hands of the enemy there. On the night march across the Potomac, 8 men missing. Deserted near Martinsburg, 3 men. Upset near the pontoon bridge and thrown into the river, by order to clear the passage to the bridge, one limber of 24-pounder howitzer caisson. Destroyed in action: one 12-pounder howitzer, two 12-pounder howitzer carriages, and six wheels. The howitzer, however, was brought off in a wagon. See http://www.civilwarhome.com/alexandergettysburgor.htm Madison (LA) Light Artillery (Moody’s) Battery 135 men (Losses heavy) 4 (four) 24-Pound Howitzers 5 hours firing (in Peach Orchard) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Madison.php The Brooks (SC) Light Artillery (Rhett’s Battery) 71 men (Losses heavy) 4 (four) 12-Pound Howitzers 5 hours firing (in Peach Orchard) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Brooks.php Ashland (VA) (Woolfork’s) Battery 103 men (Losses heavy) 2 Napoleons and 2 (two) 20-Pound Parrotts 5 hours firing (in Peach Orchard) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Ashland.php Bath (VA) (Taylor’s) Battery 90 men (2 KIA; 10 wounded) 13% casualties 4 Napoleons 5 hours firing (in Peach Orchard) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Taylor.php Bedford (VA) (Jordan’s) Battery 78 men (Losses heavy) 4 Ordnance Rifles 5 hours firing (in Peach Orchard) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Bedford.php Richmond (VA) (Parker’s) Battery 90 men (Losses heavy) 3 Ordnance Rifles, and 1 (one) 10-Pound Parrott 5 hours firing (in Peach Orchard) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Parker.php Eshleman’s Washington (LA) Artillery Battalion 329 men (3 KIA; 16 MIA; 26 wounded) 14% casualties (37 Horses KIA/disabled) (3 guns disabled) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ-CSA/ANV-1-Eshleman.php Company A (Squires’s) Battery 77 men (No losses reported) 1 Napoleon 2 hours firing See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Squires.php Company B (Richardson’s) Battery 80 men (No losses reported) 2 Napoleons, 1 (one) 12-Pound Howitzer 2 hours firing; used captured 3” ordnance rifle See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Richardson.php Company C (Miller’s) Battery 92 men (Losses heavy) 3 Napoleons 2 hours firing; 3 Napoleons advanced 450 yards with Pickett’s Charge See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Miller.php Company D (Norcom’s) Battery 80 men (2 guns disabled; losses not reported) 2 Napoleons, 1 (one) 12-Pound Howitzer 2 hours firing; 2 Napoleons advanced 450 yards with Pickett’s Charge See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Norcom.php Second Corps: Ewell Early’s Division (16 guns 290 men) (2 KIA; 6 wounded) 3% known casualties See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ-CSA/ANV-2-Early-Jones.php LA Guard (Green’s) Battery 60 men (2 KIA; 5 wounded) 12% casualties 2 Ordnance Rifles, 2 (two) 10-Pound Parrotts 161 rounds fired; 1 hour at Barlow’s Knoll + Day 2 withdrawn 1 mile from counter battery fire See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/LAGuard.php Charlottesville (VA) (Carrington’s) Battery (No casualties reported) 4 Napoleons Firing 1 hour at Barlow’s Knoll See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Charlottesville.php Richmond “Courtney” (VA) (Tanner’s) Battery (Tanner commanding) 90 men (No casualties reported) 4 Ordnance Rifles 595 round expended; firing 1 hour at Barlow’s Knoll + 10 hours on Day 2 See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Courtney.php Staunton (VA) (Garber’s) Battery 60 men (1 wounded) 2% casualties 4 Napoleons 106 rounds expended; firing 1 hour at Barlow’s Knoll See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Staunton.php Johnson’s Division (16 guns 356 men)(10 KIA; 40 wounded) 14% casualties (30 Horses KIA/disabled) Note – 48 reported wounded by battery command; I suspect 8 of these wounds minor and not reported by Johnson at the Division level. See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ-CSA/ANV-2-Early-Jones.php First Maryland (Dement’s) Battery 90 men (1 KIA; 4 wounded) 6% casualties 4 Napoleons (9 Horses KIA/disabled) (1 Caisson exploded; 1 disabled) 2 hours firing; withdrew from Union counter battery fire See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/MD1bat.php Fourth Maryland (Chesapeake) (Brown’s) Battery 76 men (4 KIA; 12 wounded) 21% 4 (four) 10-Pound Parrotts (9 Horses KIA/disabled) 2 hours counter battery fire; ammunition exhausted; one gun disabled See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Chesapeake.php Allegheny (VA) (Carpenter’s) Battery 91 men (5 KIA; 24 wounded) 43% casualties 2 Napoleons, 2 Ordnance Rifles (9 Horses KIA/disabled) 2 hours counter battery fire; ammunition exhausted See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Allegheny.php Lynchburg “Lee” (VA) (Raine’s) Battery 90 men (8 wounded) 9% casualties 1 Ordnance Rifle, 1 (one) 10-Pound Parrott, and 2 (two) 20-Pound Parrott (3 Horses KIA/disabled) 2 hours counter battery fire + 2 hours on July 3 See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/LeeArt.php Rhode’s Division (16 guns 385 men) (6 KIA; 24 MIA; 35 wounded) 17% casualties 1898 rounds fired See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ-CSA/ANV-2-Rodes-Carter.php Jefferson Davis (AL) (Reese’s) Battery 79 men (no losses reported) 4 Ordnance Rifles 229 rounds expended; 2 hours firing at Barlow’s Knoll + 2 hours Pickett’s Charge See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/JeffDavis.php King William (VA) (Carter’s) Battery 103 men (4 wounded) 4% casualties 2 Napoleons, and 2 (two) 10-Pound Parrotts 572 rounds fired; 2 hours firing at Barlow’s Knoll + 2 hours Pickett’s Charge See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/KingWilliam.php Morris (VA) (Page’s) Battery 114 men (4 KIA; 26 wounded) 26% casualties 4 Napoleons 215 rounds fired; 2 hours firing at Seminary Ridge (17 Horses KIA/disabled) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Morris.php Richmond “Orange” (VA) (Fry’s) Battery 80 men (no losses reported) 2 Ordnance Rifles, 2 (two) 10-Pound Parrotts 882 rounds fired; 5 hours Day 1 + 2 hours Pickett’s Charge See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Orange.php Second Corps Reserve Artillery (30 guns 648 men) (3 KIA; 1 wounded) 1% casualties Dance’s Battalion (20 guns 367 men) (3 KIA; 1 wounded) 1% casualties 1888 rounds fired See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ-CSA/ANV-2-Rodes-Carter.php Powhatan (VA) (Cunningham’s) Battery 78 men (No losses reported) 4 Ordnance Rifles 308 rounds fired; 3 hours on Day 2 + 2 hours Pickett’s Charge See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Powhatan.php 2nd Richmond (VA) Howitzer (Watson’s) Battery 64 men (No losses reported) 4 (four) 10-Pound Parrotts 661 rounds fired; 3 hours on Day 2 + 2 hours Pickett’s Charge See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/RIchmond2.php 3rd Richmond (VA) Howitzer (Smith’s) Battery 62 men (1 KIA) 2% casualties 4 Ordnance Rifles 314 rounds fired; 3 hours on Day 2 + 3 hours Pickett’s Charge See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Richmond3.php 1st Rockbridge (VA) (Graham’s) Battery 85 men (No losses reported) 4 (four) 20-Pound Parrotts 439 rounds fired; Day 2 “July 2 Remained in position on the left firing occasionally” 14 hours maximum firing See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Rockbridge1.php Salem (VA) “Flying” (Griffin’s) Battery 66 men (No losses reported) 2 Napoleons, 2 Ordnance Rifles 154 rounds fired on July 3 See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Salem.php Nelson’s Battalion (10 guns 277 men) (No casualties reported) 48 rounds fired See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ-CSA/ANV-2-Rodes-Carter.php Georgia Regular (Milledge’s) Battery 73 men (No losses reported) 2 Ordnance Rifles, 1 (one) 10-Pound Parrott 48 rounds fired; half on July 2 and 20 to 25 on July 3. See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Milledge.php Amherst (VA) (Kirkpatrick’s) Battery 105 men (No losses reported; no ammunition expended) 3 Napoleons, 1 Ordnance Rifle See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Amherst.php Fluvanna (VA) “Consolidated” (Massie’s) Battery 90 men 3 Napoleons, 1 Ordnance Rifle (No losses reported; no ammunition expended) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Fluvanna.php Third Corps: A.P. Hill Heth’s Division (15 guns 396 men) (17 MIA; 5 wounded) 6% casualties (13 Horses KIA/disabled) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ-CSA/ANV-3-Heth-Garnett.php Donaldsville (LA) (Maurin’s) Battery 114 men (No losses reported) 2 Ordnance Rifles, 1 (one) 10-Pound Parrott 3.5 hours firing on July 1; 4 hours firing on July 2; “fired upon but no returning the fire” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Donaldsonville.php Norfolk “Huger’s” (VA) Artillery(Moore’s) Battery 77 men (No losses reported) 2 Napoleons, 1 Ordnance Rifles, 1 (one) 10-Pound Parrott 3.5 hours firing on July 1; 4 hours firing on July 2; “inactive all day though sometimes under fire” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Huger.php Norfolk ‘Light Artillery Blues” (VA) (Grandy’s) Battery (No losses reported) 2 ordnance Rifles, 2 (two) 12-Pound Howitzers July 2 “Afternoon and evening in the artillery duel with Union batteries on Cemetery Hill” July 3 “Held all day in reserve without firing a shot though sometimes under fire” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/NorfolkBlues.php Pittsylvania (VA) (Lewis’s) Battery 90 men (No losses reported) 2 Napoleons, 2 Ordnance Rifles July 2 “Artillery duel in the afternoon and evening with Union batteries on Cemetery Hill” July 3 “Not engaged at any time although from time to time under fire” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Lewis.php Pender’s Division (16 guns 377 men) (2 KIA; 6 MIA; 24 wounded) 8% casualties 657 rounds fired (17 Horses KIA/disabled) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ-CSA/ANV-3-Pender-Pogue.php 1st North Carolina “Charlotte” (Graham’s) Battery 125 men (No losses reported) 2 Napoleons, 2 (two) 12-Pound Howitzers July 3 at 7 am opened on Union position; ordered to cease firing as they drew concentrated fire of several batteries. Supported Pickett’s Charge. See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Charlotte.php Madison (MS) Light Artillery (Ward’s) Battery 91 men (No losses reported) 3 Napoleons, 1 (one) 12-Pound Howitzer Supported Pickett’s Charge. See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/MadisonMS.php Albermarle “Everett” (VA) (Wyatt’s) Battery 94 men (No losses reported) 2 Ordnance Rifles, 1 (one) 12-Pound Howitzer, 1 (one) 10-Pound Parrott July 3 at 7 am opened on Union position; ordered to cease firing as they drew concentrated fire of several batteries. Supported Pickett’s Charge. See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Albemarle.php Warrenton (VA) (Brooke’s) Battery 58 men (No losses reported) 2 Napoleons, 2 (two) 12-Pound Howitzers Supported Pickett’s Charge. See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Brooke.php Anderson’s Division (17 guns 384 men) (3 KIA; 6 MIA; 21 wounded) 8% casualties 1082 rounds fired (36 Horses KIA/disabled) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ-CSA/ANV-3-Pender-Pogue.php Sumter Artillery (GA) Company A (Ross’s) Battery 130 men (1 KIA; 2 MIA; 7 wounded) 8% 1 Napoleon, 3 (three) 10-Pound Parrotts, 1 (one) 12-Pound Howitzer, 1 Ordnance Rifle 506 rounds fired; July 2 “Under a heavy fire of artillery” North of the Peach Orchard July 3 supported Pickett’s Charge (9 Horses KIA/disabled) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Ross.php Sumter Artillery (GA) Company B (Patterson’s) Battery 124 men (2 KIA; 2 MIA; 5 wounded) 7% 4 (four) 12-Pound Howitzers, 2 Napoleons 170 rounds fired; July 2 “Opened fire upon Union positions north of the Peach Orchard” (? Horses KIA/disabled) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Patterson.php Sumter Artillery (GA) Company C (Wingfield’s) Battery 121 men (2 MIA; 9 wounded) 9% 3 (three) 3” Navy Rifles, 2 (two) 10-Pound Howitzers) 406 rounds fired; July 2 “Actively engaged and exposed all the while to a heavy fire from the Union artillery” July 3 supported Pickett’s Charge (20 Horses KIA/disabled) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Wingfield.php Third Corps Reserve Artillery (36 guns 736 men) (17 KIA; 62 wounded) McIntosh’s Battalion (16 guns 357 men) (7 KIA, 25 wounded (16 of the wounded captured)) 9% (38 horses KIA/disabled) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ-CSA/ANV-3-McIntosh.php Hardaway AL) (Hurt’s) Battery 71 men (No losses reported) 2 Ordnance Rifles, 2 Whitworth Rifles July 1 “Opened fire slowly and effectively” July 2 On Seminary Ridge “exposed to a heavy fire from the Union sharpshooters and artillery” July 3 On Seminary Ridge “Fired with great effect” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Hardaway.php Danville (VA) (Rice’s) Battery 114 men (No losses reported) 4 Napoleons July 1 “Firing when Union forces were visible” July 2 “Actively engaged under heavy fire of sharpshooters and artillery” July 3 “All the guns were actively engaged” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Danville.php Second Rockbridge (VA) (Wallace’s) Battery 67 men (No losses reported) (1 gun disabled) 2 Napoleons, 2 Ordnance Rifles July 1 “actively engaged in the evening” July 2 “actively engaged. Had one gun disabled” July 3 “actively engaged” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Rockbridge2.php Johnson’s Richmond (VA) (Johnson’s) Battery 96 men (1 KIA) 4 Ordnance Rifles July 1 “Not engaged though under fire and losing one man killed” July 2 “actively engaged under a heavy fire of sharpshooters and artillery” July 3 “actively engaged” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Johnson.php Pegram’s Battalion (20 guns 375 men) (10 KIA; 37 wounded) 13% 3800 rounds fired; engaged all 3 days (38 horses KIA/disabled) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ-CSA/ANV-3-Pegram.php PeeDee (SC) (Zimmerman’s) Battery 65 men (1 gun disabled on July 1 returned to action July 2) (No losses reported) 4 Ordnance Rifles 1 July “engaged and did effective service” [gun] “disabled by accident…hastening into action” 2 July “engaged with Union batteries” 3 July “Took an active part in all the operations…including [Pickett’s Charge]” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/PeeDee.php Fredericksburg (VA) (Marye’s) Battery 71 men (No losses reported) 2 Napoleons, 2 Ordnance Rifles 1 July “Fired the first cannon-shot of the battle…actively engaged until the close of the day’s conflict” 2 July “Opened at intervals upon the Union lines” 3 July “Participated actively in all operations…including [Pickett’s Charge]” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Fredericksburg.php Richmond “Crenshaw’s” (VA) Battery (Johnson commanding) 76 men (No losses reported) 2 Ordnance Rifles, 2 (two) 12-Pound Howitzers 1 July “took an active part in the battle” 2 July “actively engaged throughout the day…sometimes annoyed by sharpshooters” 3 July “Participated in all the operations of the artillery” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Crenshaw.php Richmond “Letcher” (VA) (Brander’s) Battery 76 men (No losses reported) 2 Napoleons, 2 (two) 10-Pound Parrotts 1 July “fired upon the Union infantry with much effect” 2 July “engaged at intervals in firing upon the Union lines and batteries” 3 July “Actively participated in all the operations…including [Pickett’s Charge]” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Letcher.php Richmond “Purcell” (VA) (McGraw’s) Battery 89 men (No losses reported 4 Napoleons 1 July “actively engaged” 2 July “Took part in the day’s conflict with Union batteries and…busy sharpshooters” 3 July “Actively participated in all the operations” See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Purcell.php Cavalry Division: J.E.B. Stuart See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ-CSA/ANV-Cav.php 6,389 men and 17 guns (36 KIA, 64 MIA; 140 wounded) 4% casualties Division Horse Artillery (15 guns 406 men) (11 KIA; 15 wounded) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/HQ-CSA/ANV-Cav-Beckham.php Only two markers exist for the 6 Division Horse Artillery Batteries: Second Baltimore (MD) Light Artillery (Griffin’s) Battery 106 men (No marker) 4 Ordnance Rifles Ashby’s (VA) (Chew’s) Battery 99 men (No marker) 1 Ordnance Rifle, 1 (one) 12-Pound Howitzer First Stuart (VA) Horse Artillery (Breathed’s) Battery 106 men (6 KIA; 8 wounded) 4 Ordnance Rifles (14 horses KIA/disabled) See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Stuart-Breathed.php Lynchburg (VA) Horse Artillery (Moorman’s) Battery (No marker) 1 Napoleon, 3 Ordnance Rifles Second Stuart (VA) Horse Artillery (McGregor’s) Battery 106 men (5 KIA; 7 wounded) (11 horses KIA/disabled) 2 Napoleons, 2 Ordnance Rifles See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/McGregor.php Washington (SC) (Hart’s) Battery 79 men (No marker) 3 Blakely Rifles Imboden’s Command – not part of ANV, but led retreat near the Potomac crossing (No marker) Staunton Horse Battery (McClanahan’s) Battery 64 men (?? losses) 1 Ordnance Rifle, 4 (four) 12-Pound Howitzers Charlottesville (VA) (Jackson’s) Horse Artillery Battery 75 men (No losses reported) 2 Ordnance Rifles, 2 (two) 12-Pound Howitzers See http://www.gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/ConfederateMar/Jackson.php
David Fair Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Hi Mike, After re-reading Colonel Alexander's AAR I've thought extensively about how to improve the artillery within the current design envelope. Colonel Alexander refers to batteries getting "cut up" from counter battery fire and infantry at close range. It's not that the artillery batteries were losing men, guns, or morale; but they were losing horses, harness, caissons, and limbers etc. These artillery assets are key to battery mobility. Rather than having the guns lose "morale" to counter battery fire and routing it seems to me that guns were losing their "condition". This loss of "condition" dramatically reduced the mobility of "cut up" artillery batteries. As the "condition" of a battery decreased the rate of fire and effectiveness of the battery also decreased. While some of the damage could be repaired by withdrawing the guns or resting overnight the reduced mobility "condition" should not be recovered over the course of the battle. Reducing gun mobility through the battle would help keep the battle "on the map" at Gettysburg. I'm chasing the CSA off the map on July 2, and many other players have also posted examples of the army stuck on map edges. Preserving artillery would help reduce the tendency of players to drive the AI into the map corners. My hunch is that the algorithm driving artillery "condition" could be relatively easily modified. This change would dramatically help to balance the game by making defense more effective by preserving artillery. Currently it is not unusual for a Phase to end with the artillery arm entirely routed or annihilated. At Gettysburg all but about 1% of the 600 guns were ready for action on Day 3 and Day 4. The CSA only lost one gun at Gettysburg. Virtually the entire CSA artillery was ready for action on Day 4 with the hope of a Union attack. This was the case despite that fact that they had lost 1/3 of their artillery horses resulting in a significant loss of mobility. The second suggestion I would make with artillery is to have the artillery be much more sensitive to retreating earlier when the guns are not supported with infantry. Having batteries that move off the map available in future Phases would much more accurately reflect the historical reality of Gettysburg. Currently the best tactic to eliminate guns is to move troops close to the artillery. Batteries then melt away. If a player charges a battery with infantry it frequently results in the infantry getting routed. If the player does not charge then the AI lets the artillery sit in place and melt which results in the massive loss of guns in the game. For example the CSA had only 12 guns remaining in a Phase that started with about 90 CSA guns. 3
soccercw Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 I wholeheartedly agree with the concept that the main counter battery damage should affect condition.
Riekopo Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 For me it is just super hard to find lines of sight and proper elevation for batteries. Agreed 100%. I wish there a some kind of map mode that could be activated that lets you see your units line of sight and the terrain types. It's especially hard to discern because it's 2D.
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