BramtheDutch Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) Political situation PVP 1 EU (Inter Clan) Information is from players (Inter clan), updated weekly and daily if needed.The Diplomacy part presents the atitude of the nation's major clans towards other nations.The forum rules are applied to this topic, light forum PVP is allowed but no personal insults, rules.Please try to keep the roleplay down a little, roleplay is okay as long as it doesn't disturb the political discussion.If anything is wrong or if you want your clan to be added please PM me. The post is updated every thursday/friday.Verenigde Provinciën:Diplomacy:Great Britain: FriendlyFrance: HostileUnited States: Allied (TF and TDA)España: WarDanmark-Norge: HostileSverige: FriendlyPirates: Hostile (Kill on Sight)Major clans:PFKDASDKKDKFVOCDSLLONKPMSource: Dutch nation TS (na.lynixgaming.com).Danmark-Norge:Diplomacy:Great Britain: HostileFrance: NeutralUnited States: FriendlyEspaña: HostileSverige: NeutralVerenigde Provinciën: Allied (DAS)Pirates: Neutral/HostileMajor Clans:RUS / Russian Union Sailors (Russians)VIE / Vest-Indiske Escadre (Danish West Indies Squadron) (Multinational, English speaking)FLOT / Northern Fleet (Russians)Source: Balticsailor (Thank you very much)Pirates: The Pirates don't have a clear diplomatic relation with anyone because they are not a nation, but independent groups of pirates.Major clans:Pirate Coalition:KOTO (Also allied with REA)RUBLIBIABLACKMoD LV DREAD BAN Independent:TGAFTSGAY (Gentlemen's Armed Yacht club)TSR Source: Forum posts (Please PM me if you have an active pirate clan so you can be mentioned here)Great Britain:Diplomacy:France: Formal Alliance with EDRUnited States: United States declared war on Great Britain.España: Formal Alliance with RAEDanmark-Norge: Ongoing War to halt Danish aggression against their ally, Spain.Sverige: Formal Alliance with HRE & IKEAVerenigde Provinciën: NeutralPirates: One word, Pirates!Major Clans:SLRN - Multinational force, covering all international time zones.RGLAUSEZBWITCZEUSSINKTRRThere are a number of smaller British Clans ingameSource: Charles Caldwell (Thank you very much)Sverige:Diplomacy:Great Britain: allied with the SLRN.France: allied with the EDRUnited States: neutralEspaña: alliedDanmark-Norge: NeutralVerenigde Provinciën: NeutralPirates: neutralMajor clans:HRE = Holy Roman Empire, german community, led by Fury, Graf von Sandel, Havelock and Taito MagatsuKFSource: Havelock and King Leonidas (Thank you very much)United States:Diplomacy:Great Britain: Allied France: HostileEspaña: WarDanmark-Norge: HostileSverige: FriendlyVerenigde Provinciën: Friendly, Allied with DASPirates: Generally aggressive politically. Generally kill on sight.Major clans:TDATFSnDBSPAO CSY Source: Chustler (Thank you very much)France:Diplomacy:Great Britain: Formal alliance with SLRNUnited States: neutralEspaña: Formal alliance with RAEDanmark-Norge: NeutralSverige: Formal alliance with HRE and IKEAVerenigde Provinciën: NeutralPirates: neutralMajor clans:EDRSLMFrSource: Plerrick de Badas (Thank you very much)España:Diplomacy:Great Britain: friendly, alliance with SLRNFrance: friendly, alliance with EDRUnited States: warDanmark-Norge: hostileSverige: neutralVerenigde Provinciën: hostileMajor clans:RAECoalition:CGH Compañia de la guardia HispanaPU Plus UltraEI Escuadra de las IndiasBSG Bastardos Sin GloriaKAOS KAOSSIR La Orquesta del TitanicMD Mano del DiabloRCCI Real Casa de la Contratacion de las indiasFCE Federacion de Comercio EspañolaSource: Commandante Antoñanzas and Protyp (Thank you very much)note: If anything is wrong please PM me!Major clan= 25 or more members. Edited July 26, 2016 by bramluijken 16
Kokerpiraat Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 Still not sure how we wish to regulate this. Any old player can buy a flag and try to break Alliance's
Jord Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 While this is a noble goal and politics on a grander scale would be an enjoyable element of the game. As above this is impossible to regulate. For example most people in the British nation would have no idea that there is any sort of formal alliance between them and Spain (I didn't before reading this post) and many won't use the forum. Another major clan may decide that Spain are enemies.
Stix Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 Yeah I'm playing Spanish and the Brits are my number 1 target! 1
BramtheDutch Posted January 23, 2016 Author Posted January 23, 2016 I get the information from clan leaders and if something like that happens I will know it within days. And if such an act of aggresion breaks an alliance then the post will be edited to keep it up to date.
Dejman Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 So how does that work, the dutch are allied with usa.. yet they are just frendly with the dutch without offical agreements with the dutch.. where ur basing it on that the dutch are allied with them then?
Deepgift Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 For the Pirates, FTS's Recruitment thread is http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/8452-fist-through-screen-pirates/ And RUBLI is a major clan http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/8440-rubli-brethren-of-the-coast-ru-eng/
BramtheDutch Posted January 23, 2016 Author Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) Post is edited thank you, next time please send a PM. Edited January 23, 2016 by bramluijken
Kokerpiraat Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 Me and some friends formed DKK yesterday, We're only 6 now. But we plan to grow over time http://forum.game-labs.net/index.php?/topic/8680-dutch-dkk-duinkerker-kapers/ 1
BramtheDutch Posted January 23, 2016 Author Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) I will add you in now because your clan will most likely have 10 mebers before I am able to get some time to edit it again. Edit: Done. Edited January 23, 2016 by bramluijken
Kokerpiraat Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 I will add you in now because your clan will most likely have 10 mebers before I am able to get some time to edit it again. Edit: Done. Thanks, we're planning to take it easy though We don't plan to invite just anybody. 1
Charles Caldwell Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 This is all great but this is only inter clan relations, it has no bearing on nations as a whole.... infact without an adequate diplomatic system this is mostly irrelevant to most national players. 6
Kokerpiraat Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 This is all great but this is only inter clan relations, it has no bearing on nations as a whole.... infact without an adequate diplomatic system this is mostly irrelevant to most national players. Exactly my point. If there is no in game diplomacy. Someone will just buy a flag and attack something which is friendly. 1
BramtheDutch Posted January 23, 2016 Author Posted January 23, 2016 Yes, but the diplmomatic system isn't in yet, so untill that I hope to get a clear as possible view on it for new and also experienced players. 1
SteelSandwich Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 well, it was mentioned a system will be implemented soon: Allied - Enter ally's ports & battles neutral - Enter ports state of hostilities - attack eachother ships state of war - attack eachother ships + ports. By majority vote a nation can mark another nation that way. voting is possible above a certain rank. 3
Kokerpiraat Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) well, it was mentioned a system will be implemented soon: Allied - Enter ally's ports & battles neutral - Enter ports state of hostilities - attack eachother ships state of war - attack eachother ships + ports. By majority vote a nation can mark another nation that way. voting is possible above a certain rank. That'd be great. But who will decide war and alliances? Edit: nevermind xD Just read it Edited January 23, 2016 by Kokerpiraat
InfiniteAmount Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 Yeah I'm playing Spanish and the Brits are my number 1 target! You're a good person. 3
theprof739 Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 This is all great but this is only inter clan relations, it has no bearing on nations as a whole.... infact without an adequate diplomatic system this is mostly irrelevant to most national players. Even so, having a post of the formal and semi-formals Clan relations is still a handy resource. 1
Kawa Ahangar Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 This is a crap statement!!! I am french in game and i will never be ally to british or spanish! I sink them everytime i saw one! 1
Robert Danforth Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 There's a name for people who attack ships regardless of the political policies of their home nation.... 7
BramtheDutch Posted January 23, 2016 Author Posted January 23, 2016 This is a crap statement!!! I am french in game and i will never be ally to british or spanish! I sink them everytime i saw one! Well yes, this game also have Jack Sparrows who kill everything on sight, this post is for people who are not like that
BramtheDutch Posted January 23, 2016 Author Posted January 23, 2016 So how does that work, the dutch are allied with usa.. yet they are just frendly with the dutch without offical agreements with the dutch.. where ur basing it on that the dutch are allied with them then? The leaders of the DAS and TDA told me.
Johny Reb Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 This is all great but this is only inter clan relations, it has no bearing on nations as a whole.... infact without an adequate diplomatic system this is mostly irrelevant to most national players. But do you not think Charles, that as the leading British clan that you have a responsibility to try and convince your own nation to trust the diplomatic relationships you are creating? That may be difficult and impossible to do 100% but I hope you at least try. BTW, to the OP..... I would see the US position against GB more as hostile atm rather than an all out War. Our actions against a few British ports in the Bahamas were just "police actions" as these wayward British islands were raiding our shipping lanes and taking our sailors as their own. In fact, we were just assisting the natives of the islands to reclaim their land from a tyrannical power. The natural order of things is that the gov't should be controlled by the people not the other way around by King's. It just happens that they begged us to be US territories after their success. This is what is bound to happen in all of the territories of the European nations that believe in the subjugation of foreign people groups. As a representative of Tattered Flags, US, we view any alliances or non-aggression pacts with the major clans of another nation as binding on the nation as a whole. We will honor the agreements to everyone in that nation regardless of affiliation unless the pact was specifically designed as an inter-clan pact. I suggest if you are not affiliated with the major clans of the nation that you get involved and help them make decisions. Generally, I would say that the clans of the different nations are taking their agreements and strategies very seriously and they are well thought out and maneuvered. It is much more beneficial to the nation's success if the solo players get on board and support the leadership decisions being made. It'll make for a more enjoyable game as well. 5
Charles Caldwell Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 But do you not think Charles, that as the leading British clan that you have a responsibility to try and convince your own nation to trust the diplomatic relationships you are creating? That may be difficult and impossible to do 100% but I hope you at least try. Sir, I would never presume I spoke for the British Nation or have responsibility for it..... We in the SLRN are merely a facet within it. Our agreements only bind ourselves the SLRN, the other British players are freemen, free of action and choice. I can of course advise, and have done but my voice in essence is one of many and is often lost in the chatter. This is a crap statement!!! I am french in game and i will never be ally to british or spanish! I sink them everytime i saw one! I rest my case! 1
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