Sureshot Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) Me and (SeaWolf) Pirates were attacking a traders brig when 3 Constitutions Joined and started to demast and sink us (Pirate Vs Espana So it was TEAM Damage). MrDoran, Ben Ramsey & Crimson Hussar. Ben Ramsey and MrDoran began to demast Seawolf and Crimson started to demast me. Later we surrenderd after things looked ugly and we knew we weren't getting away. This behavior is just unacceptable. Edited July 16, 2015 by SureShot
Henry d'Esterre Darby Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 Please post the whole screenshot with the words that Mr. Doran is alleged to have said. Thank you.
LeBoiteux Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) Maybe I am wrong but I think there's no teamkill between pirates. That is pirates can kill pirate fellows. That's a rule. Offensive langage is another matter, much more serious. Edited July 16, 2015 by LeBoiteux
SeaWolf_ Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 We were trying to test out the new grape shot dmg and such and tried to explain but they didn't want any of it and attacked us we didn't want to lose xp from shooting them we tried to run but they were clearly faster and surrendered(surrendering works and im glad it does)
Henry d'Esterre Darby Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 What I'm interested in just now is the potential use of the N word by Doran. Please post that screen.
SeaWolf_ Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 Please post the whole screenshot with the words that Mr. Doran is alleged to have said.Thank you. i can not find the pic but i have the chat log [2015-Jul-12 13:48:57.295366] MrDoran: yah like you fucking nigger [2015-Jul-12 13:49:06.269880] MrDoran: yah laik you fucking nigger [2015-Jul-12 13:49:08.744021] MrDoran: go back to sweden [2015-Jul-12 13:49:16.287454] Sureshot: screened [2015-Jul-12 13:49:19.809655] Sureshot: will go on forum [2015-Jul-12 13:49:20.952721] SeaWolf: wait you dont like him? O.o [2015-Jul-12 13:49:26.607050] Sureshot: lol [2015-Jul-12 13:49:28.960179] MrDoran: no lets gank the shit out of him bros [2015-Jul-12 13:49:32.621389] MrDoran: be pirate bffs [2015-Jul-12 13:49:33.797457] Sureshot: lol [2015-Jul-12 13:49:43.211996] MrDoran: i'll suck you off first then you suck me off k and even if you are talking to your friend saying that word and **** off is not acceptable. This was in a different battle mind you but the language is still bad (been trying to find screeny for a while >.>)
Mr. Doran Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 You two tagged out to an NPC to avoid combat. "Friendly fire among pirates is not ban-able but discouraged" is what has been said. This event highlights the current issue that pirates can tag out to NPCs to avoid pirate vs pirate PVP.. My use of unsavory language is a different instance and not this battle or tied to either of the "team killers". I was actually directing that to Laik btw but wrote "like" before correcting the spelling error and posting it in all chat as they we were trying to make them perceive we were not friendly and planed on potentially turning on them later in the instance. The chat logs are clearly at two different hours and days too if that helps. -Pirates need to be able to join a nationals battle against pirates if we want true pirate pvp.
SeaWolf_ Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 You two tagged out to an NPC to avoid combat. "Friendly fire among pirates is not ban-able but discouraged" is what has been said. This event highlights the current issue that pirates can tag out to NPCs to avoid pirate vs pirate PVP.. My use of unsavory language is a different instance and not this battle or tied to either of the "team killers". I was actually directing that to Laik btw but wrote "like" before correcting the spelling error and posting it in all chat as they we were trying to make them perceive we were not friendly and planed on potentially turning on them later in the instance. The chat logs are clearly at two different hours and days too if that helps. -Pirates need to be able to join a nationals battle against pirates if we want true pirate pvp. then we need to gain xp when shooting other pirates on the same team because i thought if the pirates lose xp from friendly fire same as nats then you can get in trouble for friendly fire if done deliberately. and i clearly stated that it was from a different battle when you used the N word and **** off 1
Mr. Doran Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 then we need to gain xp when shooting other pirates on the same team because i thought if the pirates lose xp from friendly fire same as nats then you can get in trouble for friendly fire if done deliberately. and i clearly stated that it was from a different battle when you used the N word and **** off Sure shot did not in the OP and I did not see the reply that did when posting.
Henry d'Esterre Darby Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 Pirates vs Pirates currently is Free for All. Yarrr! We plan to add friendly fire counters that will influence player Karma. But for now pirates can attack other pirates without consequences. We will not of course interfere if pirates will come to some agreement forming brotherhoods and such. (after clan mechanics is added in the future. Please post your suggestions in the open world forum sub section if you think the pirates vs pirates mechanics and interactions could be improved. The friendly fire is permitted between pirates at this time. Sailing under the black flag comes with potential consequences from other Pirates. My concern is with the language, and I see Admin is currently on this thread so I'll await his response.
SeaWolf_ Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 The friendly fire is permitted between pirates at this time. Sailing under the black flag comes with potential consequences from other Pirates. My concern is with the language, and I see Admin is currently on this thread so I'll await his response. ok thanks never saw that we just assumed that it was not permitted because of the xp thing.
Kaos Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 Just cut his tongue out (chatban) for his own good really... 6
Bart Smith Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 For me is simple: kill all gankers by gank them. Nothing change hated them in PotBS and hate them here...about pirate gameplay mechanics...dont like it now just causing more exploits and bad behaviours...We got never intentions to play as a pirates and choose this only for tests but by mechanics like that and guys like them now we sure to not choose pirate side after game relase. 1
admin Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 Doran is one of the oldest member of the community and knows the rules. Punishment: 7 days chat ban will help to reflect in silence. 10
Laik Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 Just cut his tongue out (chatban) for his own good really... Seconded. Doran doesn't do written communciation very well. I can confirm though that he (and others too) often confuse my name like this. It sounds exactly the same like english 'like'. And, as improbable as Doran's explanation may sound, it is actually true, and he in fact was talking to me. Here are the chatlogs from this instance, where you can see him correcting himself. The wording is, I agree, unbecoming, yet the intention wasn't to insult anyone. [2015-Jul-12 19:44:00.450330] SeaWolf: oh [2015-Jul-12 19:44:05.566623] SeaWolf: look at the teams now [2015-Jul-12 19:44:08.833810] Sureshot: aqe [2015-Jul-12 19:44:09.637856] SeaWolf: [2015-Jul-12 19:44:11.347954] Sureshot: hahaha [2015-Jul-12 19:44:20.645485] SeaWolf: you going to run? [2015-Jul-12 19:44:24.729719] Sureshot: go back to danmark [2015-Jul-12 19:44:27.866898] SeaWolf: or fight like how i did [2015-Jul-12 19:44:40.788637] SeaWolf: scared to lose your 1 dura ship ;0 [2015-Jul-12 19:44:51.099227] Sureshot: hes not a true rat he will run [2015-Jul-12 19:45:01.916846] Sureshot: hes a danmark hiding behind a rat flag [2015-Jul-12 19:45:12.073427] SeaWolf: [2015-Jul-12 19:45:19.775867] SeaWolf: i thought you wanted to pvp [2015-Jul-12 19:45:25.225179] Sureshot: lolol [2015-Jul-12 19:45:37.880903] SeaWolf: oh i guess its because we have over 1k men [2015-Jul-12 19:46:20.991369] Sureshot: run boi [2015-Jul-12 19:46:36.023228] Sureshot: exploit will be fixed next patch so gl ganking then [2015-Jul-12 19:46:55.426338] SeaWolf: and you still fail at ganking q-q [2015-Jul-12 19:47:01.806703] Sureshot: lololo [2015-Jul-12 19:48:16.080951] SeaWolf: oh look the other knob [2015-Jul-12 19:48:33.063923] Sureshot: hide behind ya ratflag [2015-Jul-12 19:48:53.564095] Sureshot: i got vid so gl with team damage if u want ban #: [2015-Jul-12 19:49:04.222705] MrDoran: yah laik you fucking nigger [2015-Jul-12 19:49:06.696847] MrDoran: go back to sweden [2015-Jul-12 19:49:14.234278] Sureshot: screened [2015-Jul-12 19:49:17.766480] Sureshot: will go on forum [2015-Jul-12 19:49:24.566869] Sureshot: lol [2015-Jul-12 19:49:26.918003] MrDoran: no lets gank the shit out of him bros [2015-Jul-12 19:49:30.577212] MrDoran: be pirate bffs [2015-Jul-12 19:49:31.754280] Sureshot: lol [2015-Jul-12 19:49:41.178819] MrDoran: i'll suck you off first then you suck me off k [2015-Jul-12 19:49:50.481351] Sureshot: run laik [2015-Jul-12 19:49:54.864602] Sureshot: ddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd 4
Henry d'Esterre Darby Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 The Tribunal has been responded to. The rules posted in the News Section apply both here on the forums and in the game. 16. Posting of inappropriate content is prohibited. The posting of pornography, discriminatory remarks which are sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive as well as excessive obscene or vulgar language, posts which discuss or illustrate illegal activity, or an instance of providing links to sites that contain any of the aforementioned is strictly prohibited. Whether you are speaking to your friend or not, doing using the game channels means that you agree to the rules that govern what you say. Mr. Smith - Admin's statement about Doran's length of time on the forums wasn't that it excused his behavior, it was that he should have known better than someone who is brand new to the game what is and is not permitted. His age didn't excuse his behavior, it made it more serious. There's nothing further to add. Closing.
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