Ship Crew Sizes & OW Ranks

[DazednConfused]

it always was - but only ppl with rear admiral or an exceptional hammock'd commodore knew.

[Crankey]

I backup Lord Hoods post and others with the same view/knowledge.

 

Would love to get rid of the muliple ranks and just use Lieutenant, Commander or Post Captain. Your 'reputation' combined with an 'expenditure' when  recruiting would fill or paritally fill your crew requirement.

 

Flag ranked officer would ultimately be on board a ship a Captain would command. The captain involved had the honourary added of 'Post' Captain which only applied when the flag offcier was attached to his ship.

 

Reputation and expense would be a far better method of limiting crew numbers available.

 

Greater the reputation, the easier it is to attract new crew, The more expenditure you use in your recruiting campaign the easier it is to recruit crew etc.

 

Ideally

 

Lieutenants with the honorary rank Master & Commander for unrated vessels

Commander for 5th and 6th rated vessels

Post Captain for all 4th rate or higher.

 

Perhaps reputation would create a situation where you could 'attract' the attention of a flag offcier who when on board your ship would/could effect your ships efficiency in small ways.

[BlueEagleGER]

Commander was simply used because M&C was too long, it essentially is the same rank.

But there was the difference between Captain under 3 years of rank and captain with more than this. Although the "post" has a different meaning we could use captain and post captain as different ranks.

[Captain Comery]

Today I captured a trinchomalee and I'm only at a rank with Max 40 crew.

What crew size are we talking for me to decently handle it?

I'm not after full crew here.

[Dom]

Today I captured a trinchomalee and I'm only at a rank with Max 40 crew.

What crew size are we talking for me to decently handle it?

I'm not after full crew here.

 

I would say at the least being Master & Commander before taking the vessel out to sea.

[Jon Melkier]

I would like to see another ship, maybe two ships, to bridge the gap between the Pickle and a Brig. Something with a crew complement of around 85 to 110. A brig sloop or a sloop of war. As an alternative to buying next lvl ships you could capture one instead.

 

Perhaps a Corvette would be suited to that?

[SneakyTurtle]

Does anyone have the XP-Next data for beyond Post Captain?

Open World Ranks

Rank Max Crew XP-Next

Midshipman 40 120

Ensign 50 350

Junior Lieutenant 110 850

Lieutenant 150 2150

Master & Commander 250 5500

Post Captain 350 14300

Flag Captain 450

Commodore 650

Rear Admiral 1000 -

Vice Admiral - -

Admiral of the Fleet - -

[TommyShelby]

Does anyone have the XP-Next data for beyond Post Captain?

Open World Ranks

Rank Max Crew XP-Next

Midshipman 40 120

Ensign 50 350

Junior Lieutenant 110 850

Lieutenant 150 2150

Master & Commander 250 5500

Post Captain 350 14300

Flag Captain 450

Commodore 650

Rear Admiral 1000 -

Vice Admiral - -

Admiral of the Fleet - -

Flag Captain 450 37100

Commodore 650 96400

[Dutch Dutchery]

Updated Battle Ratings:

 

Yacht - 30

Lynx - 15

Traders Brig - 10

Traders Lynx - 10

Traders Cutter - 10

Traders Snow - 10

Privateer - 20

Cutter - 20

Pickle - 20

Brig - 25

Navy Brig - 35

Snow - 35

Mercury - 35

Cerberus - 60

Renommee - 60

Surprise - 65

BellePoule - 70

Frigate - 70

Trincomalee - 80

Constitution - 140

Bellona/74 - 150

Pavel - 160

Victory - 200

Santisima - 220

 

If there are any mistakes please say so. You may use these in your first post Dom.

Edited September 13, 2015 by Dutch Dutchery

[Goodblue]

Yacht - 30

Brig - 25

[Dutch Dutchery]

That is what it says/is, Don't ask me why!

Edited September 14, 2015 by Dutch Dutchery

[Spork]

Updated Battle Ratings:

 

Yacht - 30

Lynx - 15

Traders Brig - 10

Traders Lynx - 10

Traders Cutter - 10

Traders Snow - 10

Privateer - 20

Cutter - 20

Pickle - 20

Brig - 25

Navy Brig - 35

Snow - 35

Mercury - 35

Cerberus - 60

Renommee - 60

Surprise - 65

BellePoule - 70

Frigate - 70

Trincomalee - 80

Constitution - 140

Bellona/74 - 150

Pavel - 160

Victory - 200

Santisima - 220

 

If there are any mistakes please say so. You may use these in your first post Dom.

 

How did you manage to already get the BR of those higher level ships? Do you already have someone crafting them? If so wow that was fast.

[Dutch Dutchery]

Updated Battle Ratings with patch 7.1:

 

Traders Brig - 5

Traders Lynx - 5

Traders Cutter - 5

Traders Snow - 10

Lynx - 15

Privateer - 20

Cutter - 20

Pickle - 20

Brig - 25

Yacht - 30

Navy Brig - 35

Snow - 35

Mercury - 60

Cerberus - 80

Surprise - 100

Renommee - 120

BellePoule - 150

Frigate - 150

Pirate Frigate - 160

Trincomalee - 180

Constitution - 250

Bellona/74 - 280

Pavel - 270

Victory - 300

Santisima - 330

Edited September 17, 2015 by Dutch Dutchery

[Goodblue]

Brig - 25

Yacht - 30

still the same? Seems legit. 

[Dutch Dutchery]

still the same? Seems legit. 

I'm more surprised the Renommee has more BR than the surprise this time around.

Edited September 17, 2015 by Dutch Dutchery

[Henrik]

Very nice indeed! +1

[RAE Betospencer]

Updated Battle Ratings with patch 7.1:

 

Traders Brig - 5

Traders Lynx - 5

Traders Cutter - 5

Traders Snow - 10

Lynx - 15

Privateer - 20

Cutter - 20

Pickle - 20

Brig - 25

Yacht - 30

Navy Brig - 35

Snow - 35

Mercury - 60

Cerberus - 80

Surprise - 100

Renommee - 120

BellePoule - 150

Frigate - 150

Pirate Frigate - 160

Trincomalee - 180

Constitution - 250

Bellona/74 - 280

Pavel - 270

Victory - 300

Santisima - 330

 

It possible put the number and class of canon for ever ship?.

 

Thanks in advance.

[Dom]

Updated Battle Ratings:

 

Yacht - 30

Lynx - 15

Traders Brig - 10

Traders Lynx - 10

Traders Cutter - 10

Traders Snow - 10

Privateer - 20

Cutter - 20

Pickle - 20

Brig - 25

Navy Brig - 35

Snow - 35

Mercury - 35

Cerberus - 60

Renommee - 60

Surprise - 65

BellePoule - 70

Frigate - 70

Trincomalee - 80

Constitution - 140

Bellona/74 - 150

Pavel - 160

Victory - 200

Santisima - 220

 

If there are any mistakes please say so. You may use these in your first post Dom.

Thanks Dutch!

[Dom]

I was reading through and saw this, I have seen the updated one as well! Many thanks

Edited October 4, 2015 by Dom

[Dom]

Updated the post so far, just wondering if anyone can tell me the crew size for the Pirate Frigate, is it the same as the normal Frigate? Also have the crew sizes stayed the same and the ranks do they also give the same amount of crew as they used to?

 

(Have not played for a little while )

Edited October 4, 2015 by Dom

[Henrik]

Very informative indeed! +1

[Goodblue]

Very nice indeed! +1

 

Very informative indeed! +1

So that's +2 in total.

[Henrik]

So that's +2 in total.

Looks like it!

Could not find my first posting so figured i had forgotten it, guess i was wrong hehe.

[Jim Bligh]

As to Fleet command, what rank will you need to be to command a fleet? Will a fleet be made up of squadron's, and will there be ranked officer to command a squadron then ranked officer to command a fleet? That is if you are going to have the fleet's made up of squadron's

[Jim Bligh]

Naval Officer ranks who commanded a Fleet or flotilla/squadron

 

Flag Officers:
Admiral of the fleet
Admiral
Vice Admiral
Rear Admiral
Commodore / Flotilla Admiral /Counter Admiral/ Senior Captain

 

Officer rank who commanded a single ship.

Senior officers:

Ship of The Line Captain

senior officers rank command below a ship of the line:  frigate corvette

Captain
Post Captain
Master & Commander/ Commander/ Frigate Captain
Lieutenant Commander/ Corvette Lieutenant

 

Junior officers: 6th 7th rate ship, that don't warrant a commander or captain to command.

Lieutenant
First Lieutenant/ Sub-Lieutenant/ Junior Lieutenant.

Ensign/ Midshipman these officers did not command a ship they where commissioned cadet officers in training, in charge of gunner crews ,sail crews These where also know as captain cabin boys.They were servants to offices with a higher rank of Captain on board ship and at naval dinner functions.

 

Traditionally, Commodore is the title for any officer assigned to command more than one ship at a time, even temporarily, much as Captain is the traditional title for the commanding officer of a single ship even if the officer's official title in the service is a lower rank. As an official rank, a commodore typically commands a flotilla or squadron of ships as part of a larger task force or naval fleet commanded by an Admiral.