NAR Alpha 1 for UAD 1.7

[Fyredrake]

19 hours ago, Fyredrake said:

Uncertain if this is a TAF or NAR thing that's upsetting TAF, but I have gotten this a few times, atm its acting like the turn is complete but when it does, I still have a moving vessels screen covering the map.  Here is the log   @NathanKell @o Barão

Still havent been able to get around this, have tried doing a few more things in the turn before and of course restarted thee game a few times which hasn't worked.  Uncertain what I should do but its basically broken the campaign if there is no work around 😕 

[basedana]

@o Barão
Is this right, or did I install the mod wrong?

This is a Dutch mark 1 12" gun and I think the penetration table is way higher than I remember it being (I haven't really played UAD the past 3 months), hope I'm wrong on this. This is realistic btw.

[o Barão]

2 hours ago, HMS Implosive said:

Just a minor aesthetics thing again: Left is German 9" gun compared to 13" gun on the right. I think German guns 9"-12" range are a bit oversized, would you agree?

If you look only comparing the barrels, no.

 

2 hours ago, Peksern said:

@o BarãoSorry, you won't get rid of me today. Found another issue, though I'm not sure if it's NAR or Vanilla.

I can't say for sure, but it should be a vanilla issue. There were some speeds changes by devs in the recent updates, and the same values are being used in NAR. I will check again, for the next update.

 

1 hour ago, Fyredrake said:

Still havent been able to get around this, have tried doing a few more things in the turn before and of course restarted thee game a few times which hasn't worked.  Uncertain what I should do but its basically broken the campaign if there is no work around 😕 

It seems it is only happening to you, so why don't you try a clean installation? Remove all mod files, delete all save files, and install everything and start a new campaign?

 

 

[o Barão]

19 minutes ago, basedana said:

@o Barão
Is this right, or did I install the mod wrong?

This is a Dutch mark 1 12" gun and I think the penetration table is way higher than I remember it being (I haven't really played UAD the past 3 months), hope I'm wrong on this. This is realistic btw.

Yes it is. There was an error (made by me 😒) in the penetration values before. I found it and updated the values.

[basedana]

cool, thanks for clarifying

17 minutes ago, o Barão said:

Yes it is. There was an error (made by me 😒) in the penetration values before. I found it and updated the values.

 

[o Barão]

4 hours ago, dadiman260 said:

Hmmmmm, is argentina in 1890 suppose to start with 100k tons? Considering me and Chille combined are not even pushing 30k ;D

If you are talking about the port size, yes. The reason is Argentina only starts with one province and one port, so I had to buff the capacity to compensate.

[Fyredrake]

1 hour ago, o Barão said:

If you look only comparing the barrels, no.

 

I can't say for sure, but it should be a vanilla issue. There were some speeds changes by devs in the recent updates, and the same values are being used in NAR. I will check again, for the next update.

 

It seems it is only happening to you, so why don't you try a clean installation? Remove all mod files, delete all save files, and install everything and start a new campaign?

 

 

It showed up here earlier in the week with a few others, I grabbed files only after you reopened the mod on Wednesday, ill see about going through steam DB and just grabbing the game and creating a whole new melon loader/mod file setup for it and see if it persists and get back to you.  

[Fyredrake]

Tried a fresh install, got different error above the previous one now, will try a new game then.   

[CenturionsofRome]

Got a new bug. This causes a freeze while processing ai turns.

[Paracetamol]

Greetings, I had seen that someone wrote about the “Move vessels” problem, so I came to write that he is not the only one who had this problem, surely it must be related to the issue that the TAF has not been updated and is causing problems.just like him, I restarted and then reloaded the game, only for the next turn to be stuck on the same screen.
I also tried to create new games, but I ended up with the same thing.

[SpardaSon21]

On 11/7/2024 at 4:43 AM, o Barão said:

• Double turrets unlocked for destroyers in 1926, year when the Fubuki was launched. The first destroyer to use them (if I am not mistaken)
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USS Hovey and USS Long of the Clemson class of destroyers both had twin 4" guns on their mounts instead of singles when commissioned in 1919.  Here's a photo of Hovey in Venice, Italy in 1920.

[Fangoriously]

Start a new campaign because changes were made? Naw, everything can always be refit, i've put to much time into this campaign to trash it. plus, i need to see how much more tonnage I've got on those interwar cruisers now...

a ton of extra tonnage in fact! but what about barbette changes

Definitely don't agree with the side barbette change, especially if you are so heavily limiting secondary placement with regard to main gun fireing arcs, solving all problems other than esthetic, that autodesign might have with side barbets and secondary gun placement.

 

These fire arc restrictions have another effect, it appears a barbette cant even be directly behind a main gun?

oh wow, upon entering refit mode, I am met with the horror of all the barbettes being gone entirely, the main reason they were red in the other pictures.

Apparently I have to move this aft gun this far back to even place it. Nothing to the side is interfering, it must have a 300 degree fireing arc now, this is way over tuned.

The tall barbette isn't even availableat all? what? WHAT? And the only 2 that its got are the cruiser variants, were the medium one is smaller than the small one. That tall one in particular is all but required as a work around when dealing with a lot of main towers that massively restrict the firing arc of the B turret if placed anywhere close, ships are gunna look pretty bad now with a giant void there instead. Not even a single type of small circular barbette for capital ships at all? Really?

The other CRITICAL barbette missing is that small wide one, that you could place most main guns on. More needed than ever to lift main guns over the now hugely restricted secondary gun placement.

I don't understand these barbett restrictions, A gigantic amount of creativity has been striped out, not just on the sides, but the centerline now too. Even if you think the AI will design better ships without them available, its not worth it.

[Deadpan_Alpaca]

12 hours ago, Fyredrake said:

Still havent been able to get around this, have tried doing a few more things in the turn before and of course restarted thee game a few times which hasn't worked.  Uncertain what I should do but its basically broken the campaign if there is no work around 😕 

Yep, having the same thing there. Not cool...

P.S. Would try a clean install and new game. Maybe that would help.

Edited November 9, 2024 by Deadpan_Alpaca

[o Barão]

53 minutes ago, Deadpan_Alpaca said:

Yep, having the same thing there. Not cool...

Damn. can you upload your save file to take a look?

[Deadpan_Alpaca]

51 minutes ago, o Barão said:

Damn. can you upload your save file to take a look?

I'm afraid, not. Didn't quite think about that when tried launching new game after clean uninstall - though this time it works fine, year 1897 and so far everyting is good.

If same thing happens again, would upload save here ofc.

[o Barão]

3 hours ago, Fangoriously said:

Even if you think the AI will design better ships without them available...

Think? No I am 100% sure it will.

And I still didn't give up to find a solution for players to use them and being restricted to the AI.

[o Barão]

6 hours ago, Paracetamol said:

I also tried to create new games, but I ended up with the same thing.

Thank you. At this point it seems it is better to shut down the mod until a solution can be found for this issue.

[MDHansen]

@o Barão check your provinces file. There might be some "neighbours" missing or some that isn't actually neighbours. I even found North_Colombia neighours itself 🤔 (I haven't checked yours, not at my pc atm, and the errors I found was vanilla (granted, I am not totally sure how devs have all this connected in the core files))

This fixed a few of my own issues earlier, with regards to Southern_Colombia and Peru in particular

-also, check if Southern_Colombia has 2 entries in the first column (@name)

Don't mind me. I messed up. 

Edited November 9, 2024 by MDHansen

[Peksern]

@o Barão@NathanKellHi. I absolutely don't know wether this is a good time for this, but I don't want to forget about it.

What has happened? I accepted a alliance proposal from Argentina. And suddenly I was at war with France, German Reich and Great Britain. Which I certainly did not want. So I think, what would be urgently needed, is an information about who are the war enemies and other allys of an empire when proposing an alliance. Could that be added to the concerning popup window?

[Lamb Chop]

2 hours ago, MDHansen said:

@o Barão check your provinces file. There might be some "neighbours" missing or some that isn't actually neighbours. I even found North_Colombia neighours itself 🤔 (I haven't checked yours, not at my pc atm, and the errors I found was vanilla (granted, I am not totally sure how devs have all this connected in the core files))

This fixed a few of my own issues earlier, with regards to Southern_Colombia and Peru in particular

-also, check if Southern_Colombia has 2 entries in the first column (@name)

It always crashes on the "moving ships" phase.

I think you might be on to something.

However, looking at the provinces file, I couldn't spot any obvious errors.

This might also be TAF related...

[MDHansen]

I just, by chance, ran the game without modded files, but still TaF loaded. I get the TaF report of it not corresponding to the newest UAD version. I did not get that message with all my modded files loaded.

So this might just be  TaF version misbehaving

Frack! I am not having a good day am I. I removed the TAFData folder.... lol No discrepancies. All is fine. Well, at least no TaF version error

Edited November 9, 2024 by MDHansen

[Peksern]

8 minutes ago, Lamb Chop said:

It always crashes on the "moving ships" phase.

I think you might be on to something.

However, looking at the provinces file, I couldn't spot any obvious errors.

This might also be TAF related...

Do you have the latest NAR Update installed? This "moving vessels" freeze occurred due to a bug which was fixed recently.

[Lamb Chop]

3 minutes ago, Peksern said:

Do you have the latest NAR Update installed? This "moving vessels" freeze occurred due to a bug which was fixed recently.

I have NAR 1.02

But I have modded the params and technologies to my preference...

Is that the latest you lot are playing with?

Since I can't download a fresh copy, anyone know what the bug was?

 

[Peksern]

12 minutes ago, Lamb Chop said:

Since I can't download a fresh copy, anyone know what the bug was?

If I remember correctly, it was a problem with the provinces 

[Lamb Chop]

1 hour ago, Peksern said:

If I remember correctly, it was a problem with the provinces 

Nevermind, playing a fresh modded Vanilla instead...

I wish Barao the best of luck:)