Cptbarney Posted March 13, 2021 Posted March 13, 2021 (edited) UPDATE AT BOTTOM OF POST: Hoi lads. With April fools rapidly approaching i was wondering what the community would like too see ship-wise for the event (Assuming there will be one). I figure it would be a good excuse to add in some of the more unusual ships that existed and potentially see them in game. Going off the theme of the previous fools event i decided to focus on ships from 1870-1905. The ships i want too see are the following: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Texas_(1892) USS Texas. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus-class_ironclad Colossus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Inflexible_(1876) Inflexible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_ironclad_Asar-i_Tevfik Would be a very unique ship. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re_Umberto-class_ironclad Very good looker. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Arminius Again a very unusual ship https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiser-class_ironclad Armoured frigate lol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italia-class_ironclad goodin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_ironclad_Redoutable The first all steel ship, historically important https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Kronprinz_Erzherzog_Rudolf Very unusual ship again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_battleship_Riachuelo Historically important. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARA_Almirante_Brown_(1880) why not lol. Feel free to post what you like too see in this event or future fool events and if it isn't coming this year, then we can use these suggestions for the next or maybe future patches as well. Even if they don't add them into the campaign, playing with them in customs and academy would be fine for me too be honest. Have a noice day! 'w'/ EDIT: Some grammar checks and extra info. 02/12/2021: So since, the devs have announced they will focus more on pre-dreads and similar, i thought it would make sense to update this thread and simply allow people to use this as a place to talk about ships between 1860-1922, of all classes (yes even cv's and soobs). Cheers. Edited December 2, 2021 by Cptbarney 6
o Barão Posted March 13, 2021 Posted March 13, 2021 (edited) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monitor_(warship) The British monitor hulls. Or maybe.. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courageous-class_battlecruiser with the option to fit two single 18 inch guns. Or maybe... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-boat and the other nations variants. Edited March 13, 2021 by o Barão 5
Cptbarney Posted March 13, 2021 Author Posted March 13, 2021 Very sexy, if Nick has time at all. Hope he could add maybe 1-2 of these maybe 3 will be nice too see more older boags put into the game. 2
Cpt.Hissy Posted March 13, 2021 Posted March 13, 2021 Joke should be joke, I vote for HMS By Jove. 11
o Barão Posted March 13, 2021 Posted March 13, 2021 19 minutes ago, Cpt.Hissy said: Joke should be joke, I vote for HMS By Jove. If it is to be a joke your idea have my full support! 😁
Cptbarney Posted March 13, 2021 Author Posted March 13, 2021 Better jokes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_monitor_Vitse-admiral_Popov https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_monitor_Novgorod 4
o Barão Posted March 13, 2021 Posted March 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Cptbarney said: Better jokes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_monitor_Vitse-admiral_Popov https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_monitor_Novgorod I don't consider the Popov ideas to be a "joke" but they are a nice suggestion for April fools. 4
Cptbarney Posted March 13, 2021 Author Posted March 13, 2021 Just now, o Barão said: I don't consider the Popov ideas to be a "joke" but they are a nice suggestion for April fools. There gud jokes, cus they work when they shouldn't and they look dumb, but interesting. Too be fair i would say they are memes which is better than a joke. 2
o Barão Posted March 13, 2021 Posted March 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Cptbarney said: There gud jokes, cus they work when they shouldn't and they look dumb, but interesting. Too be fair i would say they are memes which is better than a joke. I remember watching Drachnifel video about this ship and the other Popov creation, The imperial russian Yatch. Where the Yatch show the "circular" design flaws when sailing in open sea , the russian monitor looks to be a good design solution to carry big guns in shallow waters. 2
Cpt.Hissy Posted March 13, 2021 Posted March 13, 2021 Roundships were a solution to carry bug guns under VERY tight limitations on specifically ship's length. And they did not actually work, they were terrible at just about everything, except maybe stability. But it was a time when everything and everywhere was "bad", luckily.
Zuikaku Posted March 13, 2021 Posted March 13, 2021 (edited) I hope for some ironclads or very, very old battleships/cruisers. Wish to se Ferdinand Max and Affondatore from the battle of Lissa. Edited March 13, 2021 by Zuikaku Addition 4
Marshall99 Posted March 13, 2021 Posted March 13, 2021 4 hours ago, Cptbarney said: Hoi lads. With April fools rapidly approaching i was wondering what the community would like too see ship-wise for the event (Assuming there will be one). I figure it would be a good excuse to add in some of the more unusual ships that existed and potentially see them in game. Going off the theme of the previous fools event i decided to focus on ships from 1870-1905. The ships i want too see are the following: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Texas_(1892) USS Texas. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus-class_ironclad Colossus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Inflexible_(1876) Inflexible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_ironclad_Asar-i_Tevfik Would be a very unique ship. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re_Umberto-class_ironclad Very good looker. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Arminius Again a very unusual ship https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiser-class_ironclad Armoured frigate lol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italia-class_ironclad goodin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_ironclad_Redoutable The first all steel ship, historically important https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Kronprinz_Erzherzog_Rudolf Very unusual ship again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_battleship_Riachuelo Historically important. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARA_Almirante_Brown_(1880) why not lol. Feel free to post what you like too see in this event or future fool events and if it isn't coming this year, then we can use these suggestions for the next or maybe future patches as well. Even if they don't add them into the campaign, playing with them in customs and academy would be fine for me too be honest. Have a noice day! 'w'/ EDIT: Some grammar checks and extra info. OH MY GOD! YES PLS I NEED THEM!!44! Seriously, all I want is some ironclads or pre-dreadnoughts. I want some variety. We need more hulls. 3
Marshall99 Posted March 13, 2021 Posted March 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Cpt.Hissy said: Joke should be joke, I vote for HMS By Jove. I like her a lot! I love weird ships. 3
Marshall99 Posted March 13, 2021 Posted March 13, 2021 I love the french ironclads, they are odd looking ships and they are steampunky as hell. In my opinion they would be fun to have. http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2021/10/6/1615658633-666d548871e57c706a99435f7dba880e.jpg http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2021/10/6/1615658671-tumblr-m6wu0epsqn1qhsqm1o1-1280-compress67.jpg 5
Cptbarney Posted March 13, 2021 Author Posted March 13, 2021 Yeah, @Nick ThomadisWhen you get the time (In no rush to do this), if you can take a peek and see what you think. If its not happening this year, then i guess we could see these in the next one or other patches. Cheers! 3
Cdodders Posted March 13, 2021 Posted March 13, 2021 Auxiliary Cruisers! Q Ships! HMS Habbakuk! The Ironclad era!
Cpt.Hissy Posted March 13, 2021 Posted March 13, 2021 We need something that's not an imaginary 1940's 130k ton hyperbattleship at last 2
Marshall99 Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) Also I want to see some old pre-dreadnoughts/ironclads with barbettes that have no armour. I know, I know, this is not a safe thing, but looks cool http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2021/10/7/1615723625-d2d3db2b91fafcd502e038cd43f5aa8f.jpg http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2021/10/7/1615723825-d2dd5349c16300f542c22add578d3c60.jpg http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2021/10/7/1615723998-sms-kronprinz-erzherzog-rudolf-barbette-gun.png http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2021/10/7/1615724001-unnamed-4.jpg Edited March 14, 2021 by Marshall99 4
Cptbarney Posted March 14, 2021 Author Posted March 14, 2021 Would be very interesting to add as well. 2
VarangianGarde Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) Is this because they released the Virginia and Monitor last April Fools? That was an awesome not-joke. I'd like to suggest HMS Devastation as the true starting point for the Ironclad era that plays well with the setting of the game. Devastation was the first oceangoing, internally powered, turreted warship of the age, and thus checks all the performance boxes the game can accurately represent without inventing whole new mechanics. Starting out around this tech level gives the campaign a long period to develop as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Devastation_(1871) Edited March 14, 2021 by VarangianGarde 6
Cptbarney Posted March 14, 2021 Author Posted March 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, VarangianGarde said: Is this because they released the Virginia and Monitor last April Fools? That was an awesome not-joke. I'd like to suggest HMS Devastation as the true starting point for the Ironclad era that plays well with the setting of the game. Devastation was the first oceangoing, internally powered, turreted warship of the age, and thus checks all the performance boxes the game can accurately represent without inventing whole new mechanics. Starting out around this tech level gives the campaign a long period to develop as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Devastation_(1871) Yeah and also because i want moar old boags as well. HMS devastation would be excellent to have as i consider her the prototype to the pre-dreads and other ships after her, like overall mother of ships from then till now. Also yes would love starting around 1870-1875 as this would give us a longer period with pre-dreads and ironclads, although we will need quite a few ships for it too be more fulfilling as well. Surprised i didnt mention her myself really. 2
Marshall99 Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Cptbarney said: Yeah and also because i want moar old boags as well. HMS devastation would be excellent to have as i consider her the prototype to the pre-dreads and other ships after her, like overall mother of ships from then till now. Also yes would love starting around 1870-1875 as this would give us a longer period with pre-dreads and ironclads, although we will need quite a few ships for it too be more fulfilling as well. Surprised i didnt mention her myself really. I absolutely agree. (Also HMS Devastation is very good idea). Starting earlier would be very nice. I am thinking about 1880. So we can start out with a basic ironclad fleet, and than we have to upgrade the fleet. (Research new technologies etc..) So we have to build the pre-dreadnoughts and scrap the older ships (or we can keep them as museum ships or training ships) 3
VarangianGarde Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 15 minutes ago, Cptbarney said: HMS devastation would be excellent to have as i consider her the prototype to the pre-dreads and other ships after her, like overall mother of ships from then till now. Also yes would love starting around 1870-1875 as this would give us a longer period with pre-dreads and ironclads, although we will need quite a few ships for it too be more fulfilling as well. I totally agree. The more I think about it, you could have three conceptual eras during the time span the game covers. All ships of the period have to balance speed, armor, and firepower. Each era brings a different revolution in one of these facets. The game already covers the Pre-Dreadnought and Dreadnought period, but I think it'd be really cool to see the Ironclad era. Ironclads: Excluding the 1840-60's variants, once all steam propulsion became standardized, you have the three major components of the game set. The ironclad era was marked by the initial dominance of armor. By the time of HMS Devastation, you have belt armor, Marine Steam engines, turreted guns, and recognizable superstructure and funnels, thus checking the initial dominance of armor by the growth of heavy guns and the "ram craze." I kinda love this period because there's such a wide and crazy variety of ships using all manner of different operating principles. This is also the time when the Jeune Ecole had its brief run. From small fixed mount gunboats to "torpedo rams" to early behemoths such as Devastation and Caio Duilio, this period probably has the most wild "throw it at the wall and see what sticks" feel to it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat-iron_gunboat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Polyphemus_(1881) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_ironclad_Caio_Duilio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_cruiser 5
Cptbarney Posted March 14, 2021 Author Posted March 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, Marshall99 said: I absolutely agree. (Also HMS Devastation is very good idea). Starting earlier would be very nice. I am thinking about 1880. So we can start out with a basic ironclad fleet, and than we have to upgrade the fleet. (Research new technologies etc..) So we have to build the pre-dreadnoughts and scrap the older ships (or we can keep them as museum ships or training ships) Or even gun practice like poor miss texas (1885), would give the game a lot more depth as well to the ships you make and use. Hell even probs start a thread on here for 'famous' or 'infamous shipfus in the future lol. 3
VarangianGarde Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) Here's a cool illustration of some of the ironclads we've been discussing: HMS Devastation top-right. RM Italia mid-left. Edited March 17, 2021 by VarangianGarde 5
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