Anolytic Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 Let's settle this. Ships are content. When you add new ships to the game, you add content. When we buy DLC-ships we buy content. So far, the new Victory DLC is great content. It’s a beautiful new ship-model that I’ve enjoyed trying out so far. Regardless of how disagreeable the chosen implementation of imported ships may be, and how counterproductive to gameplay (economy, warfare, consequential loss/victory) - others have elaborated on this before me, I’m not needed to rehash it - every ship model is content. Naval Action is a work of art. The map, the sky we look at, the waves that stir the ocean we sail across, every island and piece of land, every harbour with its buildings and every combat with all of its details. And every ship-model is a piece of that art. With a unique design, look, feel, sailing characteristics and sailing profile. And a lot of the ships that have been added to the game are truly great models. Every time a new ship is added to the game - for free or as a DLC - I view this as new content to explore. To study and appreciate every detail of the new ship model up close, to feel how it sails, and to see how it performs in combat. Every new ship is hours of new content. This is what I buy DLC-ships for. To experience every ship the game has to offer. I would buy them just the same if all we got was a crafting permission and not a complete, redeemable ship ready to sail. In fact the inability to craft the DLC-ships diminishes their experience by quite a bit. And this content that each ship represents is why I’ve always been regretful that the Yacht is not released also as a purchase-able DLC, as I was a few days too late to discover the game to get rights to the Yacht. This is also why I dislike that we have some ships in the game that cannot be regularly obtained by players. The Diana, Santa Cecilia and Admiraal de Ruyter. We may have the event going now, for the second time. But we have no way of knowing when, or if, they will happen next. The ships we collect now are practically irreplaceable, and for that reason will stay in most players docks or reserved for PvE, and never truly offer their experience and content fully. For a new player, coming to the game after the event has ended, these ships, along with the Yacht and Pandora are for all intents and purposes not in the game and not content available to them. These great and beautiful ships - and we cannot really enjoy them. If by some chance you missed out on both of the current Diana event weekends, you’re in the same boat, literally. On the other end of the scale you have the still awaited Trincomalee DLC which despite the fantastical price tag doesn’t actually add any content at all to the game for the price, seeing as the Trinc is already in the game since a long time ago and easily and effortlessly accessible at that. Indeed all it does is reduce content, by reducing crafting which is part of the content of the game. However, for now I wanted to appreciate the beauty of the new Victory model, and to share it, and to that end I made these videos to show off its form, alone and in comparison to the old Victory model (please excuse the paint). P.S. I previously made a similar video of the Christian VII: 19
Nixolai Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 Roses are red, violets are blue, sadly this is content, i will never buy 😭😭😭😭😭 5
Farrago Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 Roses are red, Violets are blue, Someone is trying, For a gold de Ruyter too. (Just kidding. Well said.) 5
Despe Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Nixolai said: Roses are red, violets are blue, sadly this is content, i will never buy 😭😭😭😭😭 ooh my poor
Never Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) I don't think anyone disagrees that ships are content (?) But at it's current price it's far too expensive. A single ship for the price of a full game, I bought other AAA games full expansions for the same price. It's very nice content and a beautiful ship model for sure, but far too little content for a very high premium. I think most of us want to support this great game but it sucks that you have to feel like to support it (buying it's DLC ships) you also have to break it at the same time. Edited June 9, 2020 by Never 1
Isaac J Smith Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 The only change I would want for DLC ships is the ability to redeem for a non-transferable permit to craft (with my port bonuses) rather than getting the ship. I would have to provide my own resources and woods etc., but can't complain too much. 2
mikawa Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 As already said, ships seem at first to be expensive but at second look they aren't - in case of course you are planning to play the game a long time. In case not, spend your money on something other. 1
Lukas97Austria Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, Beeekonda said: Too long post, someone translate in few words pls New ships=new content=great work of devs
mikawa Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 Once again, I must say that the work on the ship models is fantastic. They are beautifully detailed models and sailing them is gorgeous. From restaurational aspects it is really amazing what the devs have achieved. 1
Genevieve Malfleurs Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 4 hours ago, Beeekonda said: Too long post, someone translate in few words pls in frog-tongue it´s more or less: more availability for certain ships please, and very nice words about the game and our beloved ships. that´s a bit dicey to translate into the somewhat limited frog-language 😜
Henry Long Castle Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 Only reason I see someone getting this dlc is to redeem one every day until they get a good golden one for port battles 😛
Hethwill, the Red Duke Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Henry Long Castle said: Only reason I see someone getting this dlc is to redeem one every day until they get a good golden one for port battles 😛 And sail all the "non gold" redeemed ones and fight in the OW. Any issue with that ? Edited June 9, 2020 by Hethwill 3
Henry Long Castle Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 Just now, Hethwill said: And sail all the redeemed ones and fight in the OW. Any issue with that ? You cant fight what you cant catch
Genevieve Malfleurs Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Henry Long Castle said: Only reason I see someone getting this dlc is to redeem one every day until they get a good golden one for port battles 😛 nope. she is a pleasure to sail and to look at. for my part - a golden one - would mostly likely rot in the docks, coward i am 2
Hethwill, the Red Duke Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Henry Long Castle said: You cant fight what you cant catch I don't think the Admiral in a first rate is going to bother with it. A retreating opponent is retreating. Edited June 9, 2020 by Hethwill 1
Jan van Santen Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 I (PvE) have several dlc ships...and the only 1 I actually sail is the LReq, since it handles refreshingly different from all other ships. All the rest of PvE activities can be done better in crafted ships... Take eg the Herc: once made sense for shallows...now Surprise can do that. So whats left ? Break them up for materials...would be nice if it would actually yield s woods reliably. But it doesnt. Neither the new woods. So sorry, for the time being. no more new dlc ships for me, regardless how pretty they may be (If I want to look at one, I can get it for cm...)
Henry Long Castle Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 Well from what i have seen so far and speaking for myself alone, the way the Vic is being used is in groups of 4-5 people or more. Running around with a chasing ship in their fleet hoping that it will slow down a random player they ganged enough so the big bois can catch up. However more often than not that guy will escape and group wont find anyone else to fight them...
mikawa Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 The DLC ships are a great way to deliver new content to the game. Hope for HMS Shannon next ... or USS Chesapeake? 2
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