What if items / ships would not be lost when sunk ?

[Hiall1]

What if items / ships would not be lost when sunk ?: If you like the idea, write to developer, probably noting will change (as they created the game like this for reason), but may be it will. Why would it be a problem if the game did not have this ass kicking option ? Ok, it would be less real..but: let,s say players could decide than: e.g. chose by a tickbox in the game if they want to lose ship and item when sunk. Some players (I,m sure minority) may say the game is good this way as it is, but I,m sure even these players would tick the box "not to lose my ship" when once they get sunk…(if there was such box for ticking in the game).

[Kejsaren]

This has to be worst idea ever posted on these forum, i mean.. this isn't world of warships, despite the amount of dlc's available there parts in game that involve economy and crafting.

What you think will have happen with this?.  And this just one of the reasons.

Would kill game completely and make it about as exciting as tetris.

Edited May 30, 2020 by Kejsaren

[Lt Sekiro]

Best idea for kill ship economy , risk in pvp  

[Farrago]

I hate getting sunk. That goes for whether I’m in a grey Brig or a gold Endy. But it’s that element of risk and danger that makes the game interesting. It’s what makes the decisions you make in battle (and before) matter. I find that games where you can just hit reset bore me.

[Serk]

Maybe the game should track the type of ship that sunk you.

So if you are sunk by a crafted ship, you lose your stuff.

If you are sunk by a DLC or admiralty ship, you respawn with everything in your closest outpost. 
 

Simple matter of fairness to be on par with those who risk nothing.

Edited May 30, 2020 by Serk

[PG Monkey]

people would still run away

 

[kapteinsnabeltann]

i do feel you a little man;)

[Suppenkelle]

3 hours ago, PG Monkey said:

people would still run away

 

definitely yes. They run in Lokis...

[PG Monkey]

1 hour ago, Suppenkelle said:

definitely yes. They run in Lokis...

That just happened to me chained and tried to run

 

[Hiall1]

21 hours ago, Kejsaren said:

This has to be worst idea ever posted on these forum, i mean.. this isn't world of warships, despite the amount of dlc's available there parts in game that involve economy and crafting.

What you think will have happen with this?.  And this just one of the reasons.

Would kill game completely and make it about as exciting as tetris.

For you it is the worst idea, for me your idea is the worst….because your situation in the game is different than mine (probably you have bigger ship and experience): my situation: I,ve been playing this game for about 3 days, I have Hercules, but instead of going forward in the game I,m going backwards: what happens is whenever I chose a mission, the system puts me against a ship 2 times bigger than me, and obviously I,m sunk, and I lose money that I earned doing the easy missions. But there are no more easy missions on my list of missions !!!! So, what can I do ? The same happens if I,m going out with basic cutter (in that case not 2 times but 3 times bigger ship is attacking me).

[Hethwill, the Red Duke]

In the present situation I would advise to balance cost of ship with possible gains / losses.

If supporting the loss of a Hercules or similar is too much then level down the ship you use, for now. Practice combat will make perfect, is not a click and things happen. Has a lot to learn and continuous learning as you are face with more dangerous enemies but nothing is impossible as many players daily attest to that.

Plus by practising with all ships you get to know the ships strengths and deficiencies for when you are faced with them as enemy.

In sum: at the start risk only what you can afford to replace. And keep practicing combat. Try different tactics. 

 

Edited May 31, 2020 by Hethwill

[Hiall1]

Thanks for your advices Hethwill, will try….probably there is a way to overcome this problem in the game as others did too…

[Fodder Buckly]

Been playing a week or so myself. Try to find a clan to help you out with game knowledge, ships, advice, and find people to sail with. You can watch videos on the interwebs about sailing, grunf has a great one I think for manual sails. The mechanics of this game seem to be based on real life sailing so it has helped me a lot. I like that you can loose it all, makes it worthy. 

I was also told that there is a Nation TS for all the factions and you can check that out. Try Nation chat as well I guess. This game is the best part of Black Flag, but its not solo friendly. 

 

Hope some of that helps

[Hiall1]

...many thanks…..

[Hiall1]

On 5/30/2020 at 7:31 PM, kapteinsnabeltann said:

i do feel you a little man;)

.....facts behind my statement you can read above: what happens is whenever I chose a mission, the system puts me against a ship 2 times bigger than me, and obviously I,m sunk, and I lose money that I earned doing the easy missions. But there are no more easy missions on my list of missions !!!! So, what can I do ? The same happens if I,m going out with basic cutter (in that case not 2 times but 3 times bigger ship is attacking me).

If the game goes like this above it would makes no sense. Nevertheless, probably the game is not like this, there should be ways around this above problem, probably I just don,t know these ways yet as I,m playing only for 2-3 days now.

 

Edited June 4, 2020 by Hiall1
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[Suppenkelle]

23 hours ago, Hiall1 said:

For you it is the worst idea, for me your idea is the worst….because your situation in the game is different than mine (probably you have bigger ship and experience): my situation: I,ve been playing this game for about 3 days, I have Hercules, but instead of going forward in the game I,m going backwards: what happens is whenever I chose a mission, the system puts me against a ship 2 times bigger than me, and obviously I,m sunk, and I lose money that I earned doing the easy missions. But there are no more easy missions on my list of missions !!!! So, what can I do ? The same happens if I,m going out with basic cutter (in that case not 2 times but 3 times bigger ship is attacking me).

Additionally to what Hethwill said:

Hercules is the smallest available 5th rate. Of course you will face bigger enemies in a 5th rate kill mission. Can you fully crew the Hercules? Have you passed the final exam? If not, I recommend to do these first as you will a) learn a bit about battle tactics and b) will be promoted to a rank that allows you to fully crew the Hercules. If you don't like that I dea I'd recommend that you start by killing 6th or 7th rates near your capital in the open world until you gained enough experience to progress.

[Suppenkelle]

20 hours ago, Hiall1 said:

But there are no more easy missions on my list of missions !!!! So, what can I do ?

You are aware that you can abandon kill missions in your journal? Another mission will spawn in the missions list of the port you're in. Might be an easier one. :)

[PG Monkey]

Attack ships in ow

 

[Suppenkelle]

20 hours ago, Hiall1 said:

...and I feel you too a little man too..as you state without using brain  / thinking and without examining facts behind another statement….

...but others gave me useful advices already, these I can use….

English is not your native tongue, is it? Please bear in mind that many here aren't native speakers also. So, it would be prudent to allow some room for misunderstandings. Kapteinsnabeltann here for example was just sympathetic with his sentence. You are a "little man" to him in this game as he is a veteran Admiral and you are just a...  second Lieutenant? But he understands your feelings as he seems to still remember the tough start everybody has in this game. This is generally a helpful community. If you react agressively to misunderstandings help will dry out pretty quickly.

Have fun in the game.

[Farrago]

On 5/31/2020 at 9:16 AM, Hiall1 said:

...and I feel you too a little man too..as you state without using brain  / thinking and without examining facts behind another statement…..

I think you may be angry for no reason. The guy just made a common mistake in English. He forgot a very important comma.

There is a huge difference between:

I do feel you a little man. (I believe you are a little man.)

I do feel you a little, man. (Man, I do empathize a little with what you’re saying.)

“Let’s eat, grandma” vs “Let’s eat grandma.”

[Hiall1]

10 hours ago, Suppenkelle said:

You are aware that you can abandon kill missions in your journal? Another mission will spawn in the missions list of the port you're in. Might be an easier one.

..thanks, great I did not know….

[Hiall1]

12 hours ago, Suppenkelle said:

You are aware that you can abandon kill missions in your journal? Another mission will spawn in the missions list of the port you're in. Might be an easier one.

....that you (and others) took your own time and commented these for me was great great help....these are the kind of issues you will not find out when it is your first days of playing naval action....now I already can find easier missions and already can kick ass of ships of my size…..

[Hiall1]

On 6/1/2020 at 3:12 PM, Suppenkelle said:

English is not your native tongue, is it? Please bear in mind that many here aren't native speakers also. So, it would be prudent to allow some room for misunderstandings. Kapteinsnabeltann here for example was just sympathetic with his sentence. You are a "little man" to him in this game as he is a veteran Admiral and you are just a...  second Lieutenant? But he understands your feelings as he seems to still remember the tough start everybody has in this game. This is generally a helpful community. If you react agressively to misunderstandings help will dry out pretty quickly.

Have fun in the game.

thanks, I,m sorry in that case for the misunderstanding….

[Henry Long Castle]

On 5/31/2020 at 4:22 PM, Hiall1 said:

For you it is the worst idea, for me your idea is the worst….because your situation in the game is different than mine (probably you have bigger ship and experience): my situation: I,ve been playing this game for about 3 days, I have Hercules, but instead of going forward in the game I,m going backwards: what happens is whenever I chose a mission, the system puts me against a ship 2 times bigger than me, and obviously I,m sunk, and I lose money that I earned doing the easy missions. But there are no more easy missions on my list of missions !!!! So, what can I do ? The same happens if I,m going out with basic cutter (in that case not 2 times but 3 times bigger ship is attacking me).

The system is making you a favor by making you fight bigger ships. Not only you will learn how to sail better and stay on the opponents ass at all times, but you will also get massive amounts of xp that will help you progress faster through the ranks. Killing larger than you AI is for the most part easier than killing same rank AI. 

As you said you play this game for 3 days, not only you are a little man but an infant experience wise when compared to most of us here. Keep practicing, keep loosing ships, yes thats right, keep getting yourself sunk. Its part of the process of learning the game. 

Dont get frustrated if you dont succeed. So you got sunk in your mission? So what? Next ship and go back at it. Its an honest mistake to expect to be slapping AI left and right on your first few days.  

So the way at least I see it is this. You can either take your time and learn this game, or you can give up learning and make threads trying to make the game adjust to your expectations/skill level... 

P.S.

On 5/30/2020 at 6:31 PM, Hiall1 said:

Some players (I,m sure minority) may say the game is good this way as it is,

Some players (I,m sure majority) may say that the game is good this way as it is,

Here I fixed it for you^

[Hiall1]

I see what you mean..but you did not see the point: of course taking effort and improving yourself is a good feeling, and If something is too easy to do..it,s not too big fun. But there is a limit: if it,s your first 1-2 days in this game and you can chose only missions where 2-3 times bigger ships kills you or immobilize you in the first minutes you learn nothing, you don,t have the time to really maneuver and fight back, the game would not make sense this way, at least not in your first 1-2 days.

But others suggested that I can chose enemies of same rank by clicking on them in the open world, that worked, so I could improve my abilities and I don,t find it necessary anymoe to be unsinkable in order to survive.
  
PS: your last comment I seriuosly doubt though: if there was that button in the game I was talking about (that if you push you don,t sink or you can redeem your ship sunk), don,t tell me that you (or others) would not push this button (at least sometimes): when your ship gets sunk that you,ve been working for let,s say a week to get it in the game.
 

Edited June 8, 2020 by Hiall1