Forthcoming patch information

[SnovaZdorowa]

1 hour ago, admin said:

Some concerns of the community last year

• Protection of new players - не работает вообще. их топят пачками у шрауда, ниагарами и прочими у столиц, флотики эти реально мешают перемещаться по карте со своим огромным радиусом
• Increase of online - вагон твинков сидит в портах и скупает товар, потому что по другому никак
• Alts inlfuence in RVR by removing them from hostility - половина пруссии оказалась в РИ, забрала у себя же свои порты и будет колотить союзников РИ
• Changes to Raider mechanics - за это спасибо, это решено традиционно хирургически ))
• New ships - есть куча кораблей, которые практически не используются, нужно искать баланс, прежде чем вводить новые
• Faster travel in OW - это здорово, но в текущем виде используются по большей части для ганка. уже сказано, что не будете трогать

We delivered on all fronts - имхо нет.

Тема гринго - оттуда реализована капля в море и даже в планах нет я так понимаю.
В игре огромный дефицит модулей и как следствие много гринда.

Можно много еще написать, но сначала Вам нужно поменять парадигму и отношение к своим клиентам. То что выше написано  это частное мнение, для продаж нужен маркетинг, адресный сбор фидбека. Можно сделать на загрузочном экране. Эта игра обязана взлететь, она уникальна, но переделывать надо много.

[Malcolm3]

3 minutes ago, admin said:

Psst. They can play or not play but I thank both those groups for 40 bucks .

Does that mean that you really don't care about new players and their quality of life, ptotection etc, cause they've already paid for the game and are of no interest after that?

[Malcolm3]

1 minute ago, SnovaZdorowa said:

Эта игра обязана взлететь, она уникальна, но переделывать надо много.

Я все больше убеждаюсь, что проблема как раз в уникальности и, как следствие, в монопольном положении игры на рынке.
"Это единственный салун в городе" (с)

[admin]

16 minutes ago, Malcolm3 said:

Does that mean that you really don't care about new players and their quality of life, ptotection etc, cause they've already paid for the game and are of no interest after that?

Here is the promise  - The imaginary picture you drew in your head will not happen. Time to lower expectations as usual. 

Talking to users, to everyone, was possible when there were 100 testers, but is not scalable as i cannot clone myself. 

• This style - when we responded to every user - gave many players ideas that their "castle in the sky" will happen.
• The problem is that everyone has their own castle in the sky in their mind and its impossible to satisfy everyone.
• Its just impossible to create a perfect game for everyone. 
• In addition to that everyone because previously we responded to many - many now expect to be heard and responded and acknowledged. It gives too much hope and then causes upset when. Like your case. You economy suggestions are in the backlog. But because reviews are not good i wont get a new programmer and might never address them. Previously we would say we would do this and that.. This promise is withdrawn. We will no longer respond and acknowledge anything unless it took off in the community and community made sure this great idea is ironed out, fleshed out and heard.

As a result - you should stop waiting for something - and should start loving or hating the game as is. It wont change as you want. Lower your expectations.

We have been saying - lower your expectations and expect the worst since 2013 and 2014. In almost every communication. We will start doing it in every post now

 

[Malcolm3]

3 minutes ago, admin said:

The imaginary picture you drew in your head will not happen. Talking to users, to everyone, was possible when there were 100 testers, but is not scalable as i cannot clone myself. 

+ it gave you ideas that your castle in the sky will happen. The problem is that everyone has their own castle in the sky in their mind and its impossible to satisfy everyone. 

Actually I just asked you a question and this question was more about game development than of interaction between you and other people (players) here on forum.
And by your reaction, I think, I got the answer.

[admin]

6 minutes ago, Malcolm3 said:

Actually I just asked you a question and this question was more about game development than of interaction between you and other people (players) here on forum.
And by your reaction, I think, I got the answer.

Нет вы как раз спросили про общение с игроками спросив что мы больше "we dont care about players"  and caring about players is about interaction between us and players. Не вставляйте двойные стандарты в разговоры а то можете сойти за двуличного человека.

[admin]

50 minutes ago, SnovaZdorowa said:

Тема гринго - оттуда реализована капля в море и даже в планах нет я так понимаю.
В игре огромный дефицит модулей и как следствие много гринда.

Можно много еще написать, но сначала Вам нужно поменять парадигму и отношение к своим клиентам. То что выше написано  это частное мнение, для продаж нужен маркетинг, адресный сбор фидбека. Можно сделать на загрузочном экране. Эта игра обязана взлететь, она уникальна, но переделывать надо много.

гринго счастлив и иногда играет и иногда не играет.
Это вы ожидаете чудес с неба, а их не будет. Поэтому перестаньте чего то ждать ожидайте худшего и лучшего, игра лучше не станет и хуже не станет. 

 

[SnovaZdorowa]

18 minutes ago, admin said:

гринго счастлив и иногда играет и иногда не играет.

Простите за оффтоп, последний распоследний пост.

1. Вы не оставляете хорошие фидбеки, поэтому игра развивается не так быстро

2.  вы ожидаете чудес с неба, а их не будет. Поэтому перестаньте чего то ждать ожидайте худшего, игра лучше не станет. 

[erelkivtuadrater]

14 hours ago, admin said:

The good content is already in game - there is nothing better on the subject. Judge by your hours. If you want more.. rate it high. If you are waiting for something - dont, consider game to be finished. So rate it now. Good/Bad - its a sign for us to stop or continue.  

thats not how reviews work..

I work at a customer service company. I dont start the conversation with the customer that if he gives me a good review i can easily fix stuff for him for his liking. I take the reviews from that conversation in retrospect look into what i did good and what could have been done better and make sure i do the correct stuff on the next customer..

[Genevieve Malfleurs]

1 minute ago, rediii said:

Books are pretty static. I never heard of rereadability but i heard of replayability

What?? You are either very young and an inexperienced reader or plainly ignorant towards good literature.

[Genevieve Malfleurs]

2 minutes ago, rediii said:

Thanks for offtopic 😘

tbh I dont give a hello kitty. I lost interest with the game with introduction of the redoutable spam. Just wanting to give some suggestions if you are not interested in it dont read it

the perfect time for a good book then.

[Gringo69rus]

28 minutes ago, admin said:

гринго счастлив и иногда играет и иногда не играет.
Это вы ожидаете чудесного неба. Игра лучше не станет. 

 

 

40 minutes ago, Malcolm3 said:

6 minutes ago, rediii said:

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, SnovaZdorowa said:

 

Парни берите пример с админа с вами честно ведут диалог, с вами общаются вас выслушивают и вводят хотелки, да не все, да не всегда но работа с сообществом ведется и получше чем у других игровых компаний. Вам честно говорят что планируется ввести, что нет. в этой игре я очень много и надо иногда отдохнуть. и сейчас для меня хорошее время отдохнуть от игры тут и  работа и другие игры. я знаю что когда я отдохну я вернусь и продолжу играть. все возвращаются.... 

[admin]

8 minutes ago, erelkivtuadrater said:

thats not how reviews work..

I work at a customer service company. I dont start the conversation with the customer that if he gives me a good review i can easily fix stuff for him for his liking. I take the reviews from that conversation in retrospect look into what i did good and what could have been done better and make sure i do the correct stuff on the next customer..

That is exactly how it works. We did not say to give us good reviews for the future. But we did a lot of things that solved player concerns since October (mainly online growth) and in retrospect expect customers to show the judgement. 

[kapteinsnabeltann]

I will miss screening.

like i miss open world communication, durability on ships, unlimited tows, sending cargo from free port to free ports,  small battles and large battles choices, alliances and so on.

but everyone who has played this game knows by now that things rarely stay as it is for a long time, I have made peace whit that, so should others.

but still I will miss screening the most. It was fun:) 

[Sir Max Magic]

4 hours ago, admin said:

I dont know man.
You have not yet even updated your angry review on paints, despite the fact that literally hundreds of paints were added to the game since then. 17 potential buyrs found your negative and incorrect review helpful. What was the point of adding those new paints for free then? Maybe we should have sold them in 15 separate packs with RNG like CS does? Ratings would still be mixed or low but we would have more money.. Whats the point of adding beautiful things if they have zero influence on positive mood? Explain to me as if i am five years old.

Honestly, you have a point here +1

I am also guilty of this and left a negative review as a reaction on the introduction of wind gusts, which i hated by heart...

Now, that i got used to them (still dont like them), i didnt changed my review...up to today !  

 

But you have to understand us, you make it sometimes so hard for us to love YOU and your game, because

- often you fix one hole and open 2 others doing so

- you dont listen to initial negative feedback and refuse to change it (so what can people do then leaving a negative comment when your constructive critics is not heared here)

- you close polls about topics you dont like to be discussed instead using them by your own

- AND, you never considered what had been brought so often here: 

INTRODUCING of POLLs about important changes right at the LOGIN SCREEN !!! You can change them monthly

This way, you would hear what the silent majority think about game changes ! With so many discussion running here out of thin air, having no valid data so why not using this option as a tool

 

P.S.: i have already changed my review which has 5 positive and 3 funny reviews  

Edited April 21, 2020 by Sir Max Magic

[admin]

39 minutes ago, Genevieve Malfleurs said:

good literature.

I should have thought it through and used a different metaphor for the awesome semi-retired Swedish Kommandant. 

Naval Action is like swedish meatballs with potatoes. Good and simple. They will satisfy you when you want meatballs with potatoes. But nothing more. You should come back to NA when you want meatballs with potatoes AGAIN. But its totally ok to not want meatballs with potatoes today. The only thing current players can get is more potatoes and meatballs and should rate the game for meatballs (ships and ship combat) and potatoes (ocean, endless ocean, endless empty ocean). 

We wont add sushi and captains should not expect sashimi as well.

[admin]

Just now, rediii said:

What can I write if even constructive critisism of me gets deleted and I get warned?

Your messages are switched off so you will be warned instead and cant get a friendly message in pm..

[ScipioTortuga]

31 minutes ago, admin said:

That is exactly how it works. We did not say to give us good reviews for the future. But we did a lot of things that solved player concerns since October (mainly online growth) and in retrospect expect customers to show the judgement. 

But how can you just expect people to change reviews on Steam because they would like more action from the developers team? 

You do realise that 90% of the negative reviews are players who used to put alot of time in this game but have long stopped, and simply wont change their review, because they dont care anymore? This means that even if those 10% change their reviews as you like, it will still stay on mixed, and all that will still be for nothing

And frankly, promising rewards for more positive reviews is against the rules of Steam, as clearly stated on their SteamWorks website for developers:

Let me be clear, I am not saying that you are violating those rules, but I think the amount of action of developers for a product shouldnt be the reviews but the income from the product and the additional dlcs, which seem to be going nicely, seeing from the Redout dlc for example. And Steam seems to agree with me here

What reviews can be usefull for though, is instead of alienating those reviews, taking those reviews in consideration and seeing how you can use those reviews to improve the game even further.

Reviews are opinions, and opinions shouldnt be a barrier for progress, but a stimulant for progress in the correct direction.

Edited April 21, 2020 by ScipioTortuga

[erelkivtuadrater]

42 minutes ago, admin said:

That is exactly how it works. We did not say to give us good reviews for the future. But we did a lot of things that solved player concerns since October (mainly online growth) and in retrospect expect customers to show the judgement. 

then we have two completely different minds on the subject, besides you literally said in another thread that if the players or dutch players wanted the de ruyter 3rd rate they should give good reviews of the game so you have a reason to add it as crafted ship

Edited April 21, 2020 by erelkivtuadrater

[Genevieve Malfleurs]

9 minutes ago, admin said:

I should have thought it throught and used a different metaphor for an awesome semi-retired Swedish Kommandant. 

Naval Action is like swedish meatballs with potatoes. Good and simple. They will satisfy you when you want meatballs with potatoes. But nothing more. You should come back to NA when you want meatballs with potatoes AGAIN. But its totally ok to not want meatballs with potatoes today. The only thing current players can get is more potatoes and meatballs and should rate the game for meatballs (ships and ship combat) and potatoes (ocean, endless ocean, endless empty ocean). 

We wont add sushi and captains should not expect sashimi as well.

you metaphor with the rereadability was just fine and I simply couldn´t resist to taunt rediii who blurted out his outstanding ignorance. soccer for instance also doesn´t get new content after people played hundreds of matches.

[admin]

11 minutes ago, ScipioTortuga said:

And frankly, promising rewards for more positive reviews is against the rules of Steam, as clearly stated on their SteamWorks website for developers:

Let me be clear, I am not saying that you are violating those rules

There are some banned people here like the who tried to twist this information and even got attention from some clueless youtuber who tried to say we dont allow user posts on steam because he could not find a user discussion section and did not know anything about ship ratings. 

Developers can and should to ask for reviews (they are not allowed to ask from the application). We cannot buy reviews for money, DLC, Codes or other monetary rewards. Saying to users - you must rate the game is not against these rules. Saying to users - we cant afford to do so because of reviews is not against the rules and is also allowed. 

 

11 minutes ago, ScipioTortuga said:

You do realise that 90% of the negative reviews are players who used to put alot of time in this game but have long stopped, and simply wont change their review, because they dont care anymore? 

And a lot of negative reviews actually have all spent 100s of hours in game in the last months. They play and cry.. play and cry of how horrible the game is

[Cetric de Cornusiac]

27 minutes ago, admin said:

We wont add sushi and captains should not expect sashimi as well.

With introduction of the Chinese I am not so sure about that...

*hides away*

#wasajokeonly

[admin]

21 minutes ago, erelkivtuadrater said:

then we have two completely different minds on the subject, besides you literally said in another thread that if the players or dutch players wanted the de ruyter 3rd rate they should give good reviews of the game so you have a reason to add it as crafted ship

Thats the purpose of the forum. Have different minds to find the best outcome. The only problem is that you think your mind is best. I dont think mine is best. I know that nobody knows and the great outcome can only be found in painful search (that is painful to watch and use on live game). If you knew everything you would just sell oil futures in January and buy now at -1.5 dollars per barrel.

In terms of de ruyter 
We did not say they should give good reviews because of de ruyter.
We said we are delaying the status of de ruyter because all our previous work that was really wanted (causing growth of online players - wanted by players, removal of ganking in heavy ships around capitals - wanted by players, adding implacable for free - wanted by players, planned removal of all ganking around capitals - wanted by players, etc etc) have not caused any difference in reviews. As a result we see no point in making de ruyter crafteable. We would better use it for my goals and plans, that are irrelevant and dont depend on reviews. 
Change our mind.

[Cetric de Cornusiac]

22 minutes ago, Genevieve Malfleurs said:

soccer for instance also doesn´t get new content after people played hundreds of matches.

I am amazed we get new content as we go.

I mean, this is an officially finished game since june 13th, 2019, and as such, nobody would have to expect a single new ship or massive new content ever since - such as portbattles or privateer fleets on PvE server. Other games don't change a bit after release and that's it.

But yet for NA despite doing other projects they bring on new content. Praised be the Admiralty!

[Borch]

21 minutes ago, Genevieve Malfleurs said:

you metaphor with the rereadability was just fine and I simply couldn´t resist to taunt rediii who blurted out his outstanding ignorance. soccer for instance also doesn´t get new content after people played hundreds of matches.

It was indeed readable but in relation to the game didn't included few extra book pages DLC content at a price of a whole book. That metaphor doesn't work here. Swedish meatballs is better. You can always ask for second helping.

What's soccer?