Pay to Win DLC

[huliotkd]

i don't like DLC above 4th rate but if it must be done, it must be DLC or Permit redeem .  DLC with random port bonus, permit for better quality.

pls remove capping AI 1st rate from OW, they are useless even vs a crafted ship or imported one so it is simply a fraud for new players.

 

OR, give AI ships random port bonus too.

[Licinio Chiavari]

1 hour ago, AeRoTR said:

Big ship dlc seems like p2w as it always comes with S wood, you can not craft normal S wood ships everyday. Now calculate how much resource, money, time needed to craft a full S wood normal Victory. It will be unbalanced. 

If admin did not even invent S woods, all would be more acceptable. But at current stage, it is not.

Yay and nay.

1 PB at 4 is worth as a good/elite mod (if not even more - like S4).

A crafted is so like having 3 extra mod already used - for free.

A DLC, to be competitive needs to decent PBs.

For this I repeat: let DLC owners choosing to redeem a ship or a permit.

I bet majority would CRAFT the ships he wants to use... Leaving redeemed ship as emergency back up/filler/throw away/ seasoned wood farming.

[Mouth of Sauron]

1 hour ago, Louis Garneray said:

... Once more Christen Mouth of Sauron you generalize... I'm not representing WO... I'm Louis Garneray a player giving his own opinion.

3 hours ago, Louis Garneray said:

RvR wasn't an option during our prime time due to a lack of enemy willing to fight but that's another story...

um  k

 

[van stiermarken]

On 2/11/2020 at 2:00 PM, phantomswake said:

It is a trend that keeps seeping into the western market as a whole. But as you are seeing now its starting to over take this game as well. Now you need the newest DLC to compete and be a viable player, or you will be playing with such handicap that the game is not fun.

I was alright with the DLC being in the lower rate ships, let me stress not really happy but tolerant. I mean the La Wreck is nothing more than a seal clubber that I don't feel was good for the game but I put up with it. BUT NOW, there is DLC in our 3rd rates, something that should never have been touched. 1st to 3rd rates should never have been touched with DLC ships. IT's way to much of a power spike for anyone who buys the DLC over someone who doesn't.

Its to greedy. It bad for the game, I am not paying for it and I am sad that its here. I love this game, I want to see it do good, but not like this. Its to much and to far.

it is totally illogical what you wrote. a rage post against players who support this game by buying the DLC.

it is not the players fault that you don't want to pay for this game but playing it with all advantages.

And the DLC is a good way for players not having so much time to spend into the game on both servers.

There are enough construction sides in this game which needs to be fixed and changed. and the DLC is the smallest one here.

 

[Busterbloodvessel]

1 hour ago, phantomswake said:

"I am not sure why this conversation even started, as we already mentioned couple of months before. 
First rate Imported ship is coming!"

 

What does Imported Ship actually mean? Or do we all pretend to know? 

 

Buster (Clueless)

[Busterbloodvessel]

Realm versus Realm - Wikipedia

 

Port battles between nations in this game.

 

Buster

[AeRoTR]

1 hour ago, Licinio Chiavari said:

Yay and nay.

1 PB at 4 is worth as a good/elite mod (if not even more - like S4).

A crafted is so like having 3 extra mod already used - for free.

A DLC, to be competitive needs to decent PBs.

For this I repeat: let DLC owners choosing to redeem a ship or a permit.

I bet majority would CRAFT the ships he wants to use... Leaving redeemed ship as emergency back up/filler/throw away/ seasoned wood farming.

Yes I agree, I support you dlc idea in other posts. Best way it could happened

But I redeemed very good dlc ships with perfect PB and purple, and few gold. That is gonna be the same with 3rd rate and 1st rate dlc. I do not lose ships easly, I will never be able to craft 55 PB 1st rate with seasoned wood, put aside being it purple or gold. But if I buy the dlc, I will have soon,for sure. 

As you said dlc drops permit for seasoned wood and pb, so you can craft. That is fair. 

Also this ship has long since sailed with many more ships. I really do not care, I own most dlc. I will keep playing. 

[BoatyMcBoatFace]

12 hours ago, Malcolm3 said:

Not all, but at least some of them. But actually that is side story

The main problem is still around - you are too centered on battles, not on the Open World where all actions take place (even Kill missions - you have to sail in OW to their locations). And in the OW we have not only battles. It's politics, economy (crafting and trading), some exploration and naval war on large scale with planning operations, logistics etc. But you think only of "grab you ship, arm it with cannons, buy some repairs and go to fight" - arena-style, not OW sandbox MMO as it seems at first glance. Even when the latest rise of online population was mostly due to making trade (OW activities) profitable again, not because of DLC.
And considering grind - it was you who made Ships-of-the-Line much more hard to get (that was understandable) leading to more grind and time consuming work, and now to ease that immense grind you offer players other way as paid DLC. Wise move and successful one.

So as nothing changed then I can just repeat (and you can reread) my posts about it in the aforementioned topic, but better just give a link.

P.S. By the way there are also cited many of your statements about SoL DLCs. The one that I cited here is just the latest one.

P.P.S. For both content and DLC - introduce Whaler Ship DLC, so people will have to pay for ability to whaling and get money from it ingame.

Interesting take. I too fear try to push gameplay into arena style like warfail and worldoffail games.... 

 

 

[akerman23]

Кстати, я бы хотел обратить внимание на некоторые моменты. В игре есть различные события достаточно сложные но с ужасно скудной наградой их прохождение забирает уйму времени но наградой может быть фрегат Диана или щебека Нота которая даст вам корабль без портовых бонусов. Очень обидно потратить время на ивент и получить корабль хуже чем можно сделать или хуже чем ДЛС. В магазине можно купить ноты на Ля гросс Рефит и другие корабли они дорогие и не имеют бонусов  .Также не забывайте что игра дает возможность накопить ДЛС корабли в размере 3-4 штуки каждого вида, у меня стоит сейчас 3 Редутабля и 3 Ретвизана те которые падают с плохими бонусами я разбираю и это дает очень сильный эффект. Исправьте эти недоработки и дайте возможность захватывать ДЛС корабли у игроков и вводите остальные ДЛС. Если так сделать не получится. То сделайте Виктори наградой за эпическое событие. // Я могу понять разные ДЛС корабли 6-4 ранг их аналоги не дорого построить и не нужен пермит но 3-1 ранг ДЛС не имеет аналогов потому что разрешения достаются случайным образом и вместо пермита на 1-3 ранги падает пермит на Niagara. //

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By the way, I would like to draw attention to some points. There are various events in the game that are quite complicated, but with a terribly meager reward, passing them takes a lot of time, but the reward can be frigate Diana or chippy Note which will give you a ship without port bonuses. It’s a shame to spend time on the event and get the ship worse than you can do or worse than DLS. You can buy notes for La Gross Refit and other ships in the store, they are expensive and do not have bonuses. Also do not forget that the game makes it possible to accumulate DLS ships in the amount of 3-4 pieces of each type, I now have 3 Redutables and 3 Retvisans that fall with bad bonuses I make out and it gives a very strong effect. Correct these shortcomings and allow players to capture DLS ships and enter the remaining DLS. If this does not work out. Then make Victory an epic event reward. // I can understand different DLS ships of rank 6-4 their analogues are not expensive to build and no permits are needed but rank 3-1 of DLS has no analogues because permissions are given randomly and instead of permits, 1-3 ranks the permits on Niagara. //

Edited February 12, 2020 by akerman23

[Genevieve Malfleurs]

7 hours ago, Yoha said:

I bet most people who purchased the Leopard wish they had waited.

not in the least! leopard is an outstandingly well modelled ship and a joy to sail! good to have her in game. what's wrong with her in your eyes?

[mexicanbatman]

changing DLC into permits i prefer

 

[Yoha]

17 minutes ago, Genevieve Malfleurs said:

not in the least! leopard is an outstandingly well modelled ship and a joy to sail! good to have her in game. what's wrong with her in your eyes?

Nothing is necessarily wrong with the ship. It functions well enough. Good ship for regular pvp and the PZ.

I just think the Redo is far superior, and a better value money wise (because of its RvR potential). Some players in my clan who got the Leopard now regret it because they would rather have gotten the Redo. (Hindsight is 20/20)

 

[Stormandfire]

3 hours ago, mexicanbatman said:

changing DLC into permits i prefer

 

I think DLC permits is not good idea. Because if the Permits is nontradeable, it will require every player must have shipyard lv3 and craft level, wood .....It will take few days for gather material and craft the ship. So many player will not buy DLC permit if that ship not strong or OP.

If the permit is tradeable, it still require someone to craft and maybe open way to scam, pay real money to craft Season wood, good port bonus ship. It wil brind more harm to the game.

[Conte D. Catellani]

15 hours ago, Dark123 said:

• Bring more PVP
• Bring more RVR
• Fund new ships and new content.
• And save time for people who have kids and families
• And it will win against snows, frigates, 3rd rates and 140 gun santisimas
• And it will sink to snows, frigates, 3rd rates and stronger ships. 
• And it will be beautiful. 

Saving time is good for the one who have real life issue but then why dont add also dlc for double the ship space at dock, the buildings , labor hour and random chest? Starting a new account with an alt is also a waste of time in this way is the same thing  

Edited February 13, 2020 by Conte D. Catellani

[GrubbyZebra]

6 minutes ago, Conte D. Catellani said:

Saving time is good for the one who have real life issue but then why dont add also dlc for double the ship space at dock, the buildings , labor hour and random chest? Starting a new account with an alt is also a waste of time in this way is the same thing  

Admiralty DLC adds dock, building, and warehouse space

[Conte D. Catellani]

3 minutes ago, GrubbyZebra said:

Admiralty DLC adds dock, building, and warehouse space

not like having an alt

[GrubbyZebra]

Just now, Conte D. Catellani said:

not like having an alt

So buy an alt and consider it DLC.

[Conte D. Catellani]

i dont have time to level up  labor hour, jump from a steam account to an other and so on

[Durin]

Can we have depleeted uranium cannonball DLC and Ironclad Armor DLC please? since youre allready shitting on everbody who once played this MMO like its intended, like gaining an advantage by having better equipment due to immense efforts in economie and RvR to get a good crafting port? Why not go all the way?

[Genevieve Malfleurs]

15 hours ago, huliotkd said:

i don't like DLC above 4th rate but if it must be done, it must be DLC or Permit redeem .  DLC with random port bonus, permit for better quality.

pls remove capping AI 1st rate from OW, they are useless even vs a crafted ship or imported one so it is simply a fraud for new players.

 

OR, give AI ships random port bonus too.

in your eyes capped 1st rates are useless. so let people have fun in them if there's no harm

[GrubbyZebra]

1 hour ago, Conte D. Catellani said:

i dont have time to level up  labor hour, jump from a steam account to an other and so on

Admin has already said LH are getting overhauled, and you can run multiple accts simultaneously, so....(keep going, I can do this all day.)

[Conte D. Catellani]

I'm talking about the labor hour that you gain with your craft level. 

And no I don't run multiple accounts.. I didn't bought Naval Alts 

[GrubbyZebra]

8 minutes ago, Conte D. Catellani said:

I'm talking about the labor hour that you gain with your craft level. 

So am I. Admin has said LH will be decoupled from craft level. So this is a moot point.

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And no I don't run multiple accounts.. I didn't bought Naval Alts 

Well then, that's your choice to make, now isn't it?

[huliotkd]

the best DLC will be   ''all ships book knowledge unlock''. 

everyone will buy it, it doesn't give any advantage cause you still have to find and learn books and learn which is better for.

but this DLC will really save abnormal amount of hours spent grinding

[Conte D. Catellani]

You know how lh will work in the future? 

If you choose to use alts, good for you, since the admin said that DLC are there for people who don't have much time to play for different rl issue,tgen there are also other things that  could be make under a DLC. 

Read my first post. 

So if you like to find short way, trick, bugs, glitch, fair is  your choice, mine is to ask for more regular ones.