admin Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 Hotfix will be deployed today 10th Jan to fix BR differences for Raider port battles Port BR changes 5000 Battle ratings ports are now 5700 10000 Battle ratings ports are now 10600 Nassau PVE PB bug fixed - BR Changed to 2900 Ship BR changes Trincomalee BR 270 to 260 Endymion BR changed from 280 to 270 Indiaman BR changed from 150 to 140 Pavel BR changed from 550 to 540 Yesterday hotfix addressed the Nassau Raider routes in port battles and slightly increased spawns of trading resources. 9
Gregory Rainsborough Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 Community: "We want lower BR for port battles" Devs: *increases them* 6
Lukas97Austria Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gregory Rainsborough said: Community: "We want lower BR for port battles" Devs: *increases them* Well actually I guess we want limited pb to a rate. Like the PZ. Some ports are only for 5th rates some only for 2nd rates etc. Not sure if lowering the Br will help. Only that nation x can bring more ships to screen than nation y 1
Earl of Grey Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, Gregory Rainsborough said: Community: "We want lower BR for port battles" Devs: *increases them* You are not the Community, you are only a small part of it ... 11
Lukas97Austria Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Lukas97Austria said: Well actually I guess we want limited pb to a rate. Like the PZ. Some ports are only for 5th rates some only for 2nd rates etc. Not sure if lowering the Br will help. Only that nation x can bring more ships to screen than nation y Actually I should say I want that instead of we.
vazco Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 53 minutes ago, Earl of Grey said: You are not the Community, you are only a small part of it ... Gregory, like some others, has good contact with many clan leaders from all nations, which covers large part of the community. I didn't hear yet anyone, who is active in planning rvr, to ask for an increased br in PB. Many ask for low br. 2
Shocktrooper Basteyy Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 I dont like BR under 5000. Or do we want to 1v1 for ports in future?😆 5
Earl of Grey Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 25 minutes ago, vazco said: Gregory, like some others, has good contact with many clan leaders from all nations, which covers large part of the community. I didn't hear yet anyone, who is active in planning rvr, to ask for an increased br in PB. Many ask for low br. Maybe you missed the thread in "suggestions" ? It seems to me Gregory was pretty lonely with his wish ... 3
Gregory Rainsborough Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, Earl of Grey said: Maybe you missed the thread in "suggestions" ? It seems to me Gregory was pretty lonely with his wish ... You should see the other dozen or so. Not looking very hard are ya?
erelkivtuadrater Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, admin said: Hotfix will be deployed today 10th Jan to fix BR differences for Raider port battles Port BR changes 5000 Battle ratings ports are now 5700 10000 Battle ratings ports are now 10600 Nassau PVE PB bug fixed - BR Changed to 2900 Ship BR changes Trincomalee BR 270 to 260 Endymion BR changed from 280 to 270 Indiaman BR changed from 150 to 140 Pavel BR changed from 550 to 540 Yesterday hotfix addressed the Nassau Raider routes in port battles and slightly increased spawns of trading resources. @admin can you give a reason for why you change these BR's? it really makes minimal change for rvr and pvp, and is this your opinion or is it someone in the community that have suggested this? What will happen is that people will still use christian over 3rd rates in rvr and bring 1 more christian into port battles. So i really dont get your point with this change Edited January 10, 2020 by erelkivtuadrater
Malcolm3 Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, erelkivtuadrater said: can you give a reason for why you change these BR's? This is written in @admin post: 3 hours ago, admin said: to fix BR differences for Raider port battles So, as I think, they were fixing NPC Raiders and for this changed BR of both ports and some ships.
Despe Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 i like actual BR limits sistem, you can play battles with little, medium and large fleets. 1
erelkivtuadrater Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, Intrepido said: Instead of fixing the poor useless pavel, his BR gets lowered. Also first rates, specially santi and ocean, will still be the prefered choice as their BR is more efficient than the third rates. Those ships should have a higher BRs, as suggested in the rvr thread so more third rates will finally make an appareance in pb fleets instead of oceans, santis and chritians. @admin is adding three new third rates but right now, judging by the pics in national news, 74 gunners arent really used in PBs. There must be a reason for that. totally agree, the BR on the 1st rates and 2nd rates are way to low to justify that they have over 50% more broadside lb, HP and higher thickness then the heaviest 3rd rate (bellona). Christian is basically a slightly smaller victory so shouldnt be any less br then bucentaure atleast, while they should have increased their br by abit anyway 1
SnovaZdorowa Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 4 hours ago, admin said: slightly increased spawns of trading resources. resources for crafting mods too? or not?
Hethwill, the Red Duke Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 4 hours ago, admin said: fix BR differences for Raider port battles 😎
firebool Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 It is really very difficult to find the balance, I really liked the br when it was different in each port, because it gave a lot of dynamism to the battles, but I also have to recognize that when we put the low br, it implies that the battles always enter same players, with the exception of some exceptions we are always seeing the same battles with the same players. It is my humble opinion
firebool Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 Perhaps the answer would be to limit the vessels to 1, or 2 according to which ports. You can put a br of 5000 but only be able to take 2 first and 4 seconds or some idea based on this path
Holm Hansen Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, admin said: .... Yesterday hotfix addressed the Nassau Raider routes in port battles and slightly increased spawns of trading resources. ... good that work on it is still going on. But the layout of some raids also leaves something to be desired. In some ports, the target circles are outside or on the border of the join circle. If we have headwind from the beginning, it will be difficult to reach them, even impossible to intercept the raiders before they have reached them. I would like to remind you that for us a lot depends on it and it is not fun to lose the effort of months because of something like that. Especially on the PVE server, where clans usually only have one port and where each port will attacked at some point. Here one example: Edited January 10, 2020 by Holm Hansen
Despe Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, rediii said: The thing is that big ships are the preferred choice though. Who wins? 4 ocean 3600 BR vs 9 Wasa 4 oceans vs 7 Bellonas 4 ocean 3600 BR vs 6 christians 6 christians 3600 vs 9 wasa Etc... Highest value is big ships. Which is historical accurate but not helpfull in NA. if i play in that PB wins always the opposite side
Sea Archer Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 The problem with PB is not a BR issue. It is more the missing water depth that favours the biggest ships. I hope the devs will somehow implement that in the game. 2
z4ys Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 5 hours ago, admin said: Ship BR changes Trincomalee BR 270 to 260 Endymion BR changed from 280 to 270 Indiaman BR changed from 150 to 140 why a 12pd frigate like L'hermione has 220Br in a shot weight based dmg system. She would need a reduction too. 7
erelkivtuadrater Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, z4ys said: why a 12pd frigate like L'hermione has 220Br in a shot weight based dmg system. She would need a reduction too. they also need to take into account the Health Pools, its 2k difference in hp between l'hermione and trinc :S.
Kubrat Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 7 hours ago, Gregory Rainsborough said: You should see the other dozen or so. Not looking very hard are ya? Good point. Why don't you list them here so there is no doubt.
Mouth of Sauron Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 Doesn't really matter what the BR of a port is, folks will always try to bring the biggest ships they can to the fight. Only way to prevent 1st rate spam is to rate lock ports. It's quite simple. Back when the 1st rate BR was made a lot higher the meta was to bring bucs for a couple of weeks and eventually 1st rates started creeping back into every PB starting with 1 or 2. Those 42s and the thickness meta is just too good to not have. Rate lock the ports. Non capitals should be 3rd rates or lower. 2
Angus MacDuff Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mouth of Sauron said: Rate lock the ports. Non capitals should be 3rd rates or lower. Or rate limit the battles. No more than 2 1st rates at a large battle 1
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