Ganking Meta destroyes the Game

[AeRoTR]

10 minutes ago, Sea Archer said:

My experience is that usually those who complain about being ganked are the ones who love to gank others.

So he goes to some capital, starts sinking newbies. Revenge fleet is formed and he starts crying because they won’t let him run away.

[Kejsaren]

3 minutes ago, Schwedischer Pöbel said:

In my case, you're wrong, sorry.

😂😂😂 epic!

[Schwedischer Pöbel]

Just now, AeRoTR said:

So he goes to some capital, starts sinking newbies. Revenge fleet is formed and he starts crying because they won’t let him run away.

😁2 against 1 is fair for me but because I'm a good player but if you come with 10 times br, it's just embarrassing

[AeRoTR]

Oh lol, it is Pit Pinsel who is crying. So you always come with 3 ships to sink lonely traders and newbies. And talk about gank meta? Eat a banana and relax...

Edited November 3, 2019 by AeRoTR

[Schwedischer Pöbel]

Just now, AeRoTR said:

Oh lol, it is Pit Pinsel who is crying. So you always come with 3 ships to sink lonely traders and newbies. And talk about gank meta? Eat a banana and relax...

ok lets make duel big mouth.

[AeRoTR]

2 minutes ago, Schwedischer Pöbel said:

😁2 against 1 is fair for me but because I'm a good player but if you come with 10 times br, it's just embarrassing

Nothing is embrassing mate, like you gank 3 to 1, also 10 to 1 is okay.

Bring 9 more friends next time. This is a war game, go play heartstone or street fighter if you like 1 vs 1. 

I hope they do not sink but keep chasing you for hours in the future. Good luck, eat a banana and relax, instead of crying here.

[Kejsaren]

6 minutes ago, AeRoTR said:

Oh lol, it is Pit Pinsel who is crying. So you always come with 3 ships to sink lonely traders and newbies. And talk about gank meta? Eat a banana and relax...

Did you just miss the screenshots he just posted?, think it's pretty clear he can do more then just sink lonely traders and newbies.

What can you do?... 

Except telling people to relax and eat bananas...

Edited November 3, 2019 by cursed monkey

[Schwedischer Pöbel]

5 minutes ago, AeRoTR said:

Oh lol, it is Pit Pinsel who is crying. So you always come with 3 ships to sink lonely traders and newbies. And talk about gank meta? Eat a banana and relax...

I do not care about the 5 hours, but what has been baffled over the years with this game is just not ok and if you are really worried about doing your trader then a good player will bet on me in the 1 against 1 and kill me employed

[AeRoTR]

@cursed monkey you need to eat some bananas, Mr.Monkey.

When ever I see him, he is with his friends, I do not care if he is good or bad.

Our mottos, “suffer or be gone” , “do not cry but eat a banana”

whaever you are crying, it was exactly same 2 years ago.

[Kejsaren]

1 minute ago, AeRoTR said:

@cursed monkey you need to eat some bananas, Mr.Monkey.

When ever I see him, he is with his friends, I do not care if he is good or bad.

Our mottos, “suffer or be gone” , “do not cry but eat a banana”

whaever you are crying, it was exactly same 2 years ago.

🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌

[Schwedischer Pöbel]

31 minutes ago, AeRoTR said:

Nothing is embrassing mate, like you gank 3 to 1, also 10 to 1 is okay.

Bring 9 more friends next time. This is a war game, go play heartstone or street fighter if you like 1 vs 1. 

I hope they do not sink but keep chasing you for hours in the future. Good luck, eat a banana and relax, instead of crying here.

that is also the reason why the game breaks down, those players who do not want a fair match makeing, I do not want to mess with a 3 man on a trader and I'll do the post here so that is changed. But you can just go away for fir fir on the open world and if that should be good for your trader brigs then I do not know, it would be much better if there is another match makeing, where I might drive Teak White again because the fair fights are so better to survive and your trader brig does that well because then I'm not really behind the things afterwards

[AeRoTR]

@Schwedischer Pöbel only so so fair fight will be Solo Pvp Zone or arranged duel.

We all did our best in the forum to steer his game in a better course, I also remember the ones who likes to lick banana and tell us “ no everything is fine”

This is the game, nothing will change with these kind of posts. We can only dream.

[eneibesmuB]

Pit Pinsel is right. The game loses its player base because there is no minimum level of fairness in the game. That it is possible that much larger ships join a battle that makes the fight pointless or in the end still unfair to the other side, is not a durable state.

BSERK is often in the Truxillo area because we are looking for a fair fight. But since none of the British has the guts to offer us this fight, we sink so long ships until we get a fight.

Edited November 3, 2019 by eneibesmuB

[Never]

9 hours ago, HachiRoku said:

whats worse? Being chased for 5 hours without surrendering or chasing someone for 5 hours without logging off?

I just wonder how bored some players must be that they want to chase someone for 5 hrs. 

[Archaos]

3 hours ago, eneibesmuB said:

3 hours ago, eneibesmuB said:

Pit Pinsel is right. The game loses its player base because there is no minimum level of fairness in the game. That it is possible that much larger ships join a battle that makes the fight pointless or in the end still unfair to the other side, is not a durable state.

BSERK is often in the Truxillo area because we are looking for a fair fight. But since none of the British has the guts to offer us this fight, we sink so long ships until we get a fight.

 

You say you are looking for a fair fight and because you cannot get it you attack traders till you do, how is that a fair fight for the trader who only wanted to move his stuff from A to B. So once you have sunk enough traders and people get pissed off, what do you expect them to do? You expect them to come out and give you a fair fight 1v1 or do you expect them to come out to sink or chase you away in force? And you wonder why some people will spend 5 hours chasing you 5v1. Remember in those 5 hours that they are chasing you you are not sinking any traders. Personally I dont bother doing the whole coast guard bit as I believe it only attracts more people looking for fights, but I can see why some people do it and I take advantage of them chasing you away to do my trade runs in peace.

[Kejsaren]

1 hour ago, Archaos said:

You say you are looking for a fair fight and because you cannot get it you attack traders till you do, how is that a fair fight for the trader who only wanted to move his stuff from A to B. So once you have sunk enough traders and people get pissed off, what do you expect them to do? You expect them to come out and give you a fair fight 1v1 or do you expect them to come out to sink or chase you away in force? And you wonder why some people will spend 5 hours chasing you 5v1. Remember in those 5 hours that they are chasing you you are not sinking any traders. Personally I dont bother doing the whole coast guard bit as I believe it only attracts more people looking for fights, but I can see why some people do it and I take advantage of them chasing you away to do my trade runs in peace.

It has absolutely nothing to do with sinking traders, that excuse is getting old and is pure nonsense. Remove trade ships and you think things would change?. You would invent another excuse to gank. Nobody sets out to sink trade ships in teak/wo Endymion as there are much smaller, faster and way cheaper ships that does that job perfectly well.

 

Personally i have nothing against ganking itself, it's more the stupid mechanics that allow you tag-retag-tag-retag that is nonsense. 

Edited November 3, 2019 by cursed monkey

[Sea Archer]

From the historical point of view every captain tried to fight with higher numbers or at least more broadside weight. Nothing wrong with that. 

Our problem are more the RoE (joining battles even if you where not in the area when battle started), the high impact of wood types on speed and those mods.

... but that is the game the devs want to have...

[Kejsaren]

1 hour ago, Archaos said:

And you wonder why some people will spend 5 hours chasing you 5v1. Remember in those 5 hours that they are chasing you you are not sinking any traders.

Totally worth it....😂😂😂

 

Banana is on me...🍌 

[Genevieve Malfleurs]

7 hours ago, eneibesmuB said:

Pit Pinsel is right. The game loses its player base because there is no minimum level of fairness in the game. That it is possible that much larger ships join a battle that makes the fight pointless or in the end still unfair to the other side, is not a durable state.

BSERK is often in the Truxillo area because we are looking for a fair fight. But since none of the British has the guts to offer us this fight, we sink so long ships until we get a fight.

Oh Bumsebiene, you attack every weaker target and run like hell from opposition. That´s fine. It tactically makes sense. After capturing your ships - because of being persistent occasionally - we know there is no intention for a fair fight. Fine woods, fine mods, surely some rare books on... How do you know your enemy is on par? BR-wise? I think whining in the forum for being ganked in enemy waters sic! is just embarrassing. After all it is a war-game and you cannot always get away with it. Best wishes, Gene

[AeRoTR]

Anyway sorry that we are a bit lazy.

We will start bringing some fine ships to Truxillo, just to satisfy you so you do not need to cry here. You will get your wish fullfilled, as our ships will be good quality, no more long chases but sinking.

We will be happy to satisfy.

[Archaos]

7 hours ago, cursed monkey said:

It has absolutely nothing to do with sinking traders, that excuse is getting old and is pure nonsense. Remove trade ships and you think things would change?. You would invent another excuse to gank. Nobody sets out to sink trade ships in teak/wo Endymion as there are much smaller, faster and way cheaper ships that does that job perfectly well.

You are correct its not just about sinking traders its about experienced players hanging out hunting in areas where inexperienced players are and then claiming they are looking for a fair fight. If fair fights were what people were after then why are the single patrol zones not crowded with players every day. People who hunt around KPR and Truxillo are simply looking for easy kills, its only when they get jumped by superior numbers and they realise that they are going to lose that they start crying and requesting 1v1's.

[RubyRose]

1 hour ago, Archaos said:

You are correct its not just about sinking traders its about experienced players hanging out hunting in areas where inexperienced players are and then claiming they are looking for a fair fight. If fair fights were what people were after then why are the single patrol zones not crowded with players every day. People who hunt around KPR and Truxillo are simply looking for easy kills, its only when they get jumped by superior numbers and they realise that they are going to lose that they start crying and requesting 1v1's.

well where are the so called experienced players when the inexperienced players are being ganked back to back. most likely busy elsewhere on the insanely huge map. where do u find alot of players near capitals where do u find easy prey capitals. if ur going to cry about ganking noobs is destroying the game then ur nation should stop doing it. cause every nation ganks another nations capital waters. 

[AeRoTR]

@Ruby Rose that is what it is, you are correct.

My compaint was "crying here when they attack you in their waters" They chased him for 5 hours, lol. 

Happened to me, I was chased for 2,5 hours, multiple battle instance and I was really sleepy and tired before the chase. This  could happen 3 years ago or a month ago nothing changed, it is the determination of chasers and the runner. 

So why the cry? Because you used to  come and sink few ships, enjoy your time, get away with it. And last time things were different, you could only get away in 5 hours and you come here and cry? 

And btw why should anyone give a fair fight in their own waters, because they want so. Go to solo pvp! 

Last time they were attacking a lonely dutch Wasa, with 3 ships, fair fight my banana. 

Edited November 4, 2019 by AeRoTR

[Angus MacDuff]

17 hours ago, Never said:

I just wonder how bored some players must be that they want to chase someone for 5 hrs. 

Except that it is not 5 hours anymore.  I got chased last night by (at least) half a dozen Yanks from N. of Charleston to the Bahamas.  With the speed boosts, it took less than 30 mins. 

[Archaos]

8 hours ago, RubyRose said:

well where are the so called experienced players when the inexperienced players are being ganked back to back. most likely busy elsewhere on the insanely huge map. where do u find alot of players near capitals where do u find easy prey capitals. if ur going to cry about ganking noobs is destroying the game then ur nation should stop doing it. cause every nation ganks another nations capital waters. 

Well I think if you look at the OP it is a person who hunts noobs that is crying when he is chased for 5 hours by a revenge fleet. We all know that people camp Capitals and anywhere else that easy pickings can be found, but the same people should not complain when others come out to chase them off and sink them. You go raiding in someones home waters and then act surprised when they come out in overwhelming force to attack you.

Allowing new players to be easily attacked is a poor game design and it contributes to the high attrition rate of new players, but it is currently part of the game same as the ability of players to react and chase someone for hours on end constantly tagging and retagging. If you accept the poor game mechanics that provide no protection to new players then you should accept the game mechanics that allow you to be tagged for hours on end.