Increase Fire Rate and Range

[Ishtar]

15 hours ago, goduranus said:

Where's the source data that says rate of fire should be faster? I read that battleship guns typically manage to fire 2+ round a minute in trials(was it 3 rounds a minute for the Bismark gun in trials?), but during combat generally fired a lot slower, less than 1 round a minute.

Washington fired slightly more than 1.5 rounds/minute at Kirishima

[ThatZenoGuy]

Most battleships in practice fired around 1 round per minute, it takes about a minute for shells to hit the water, so they typically waited.

in theory, most WW2 battleships could fire 1.5-3 rounds per minute.

[ThatZenoGuy]

I actually made a video on ROF of battleships, namely the myth that Yamato fired 'slowly'.
 

 

[sRuLe]

17 hours ago, ThatZenoGuy said:

in theory, most WW2 battleships could fire 1.5-3 rounds per minute.

HMS Lion, HMS Tiger, SMS Derflinger, SMS Seydlitz, SMS Moltke.... and finally HMS Hood and KMS Bismark got ROF 2,1-2,8 shots per minute.

On practice... first engagement shots probably ll'be around 1 shot/min due fire correction issues... but that, hell brakes loose. Totally, IRL, I mean it! 

[ThatZenoGuy]

7 hours ago, sRuLe said:

HMS Lion, HMS Tiger, SMS Derflinger, SMS Seydlitz, SMS Moltke.... and finally HMS Hood and KMS Bismark got ROF 2,1-2,8 shots per minute.

On practice... first engagement shots probably ll'be around 1 shot/min due fire correction issues... but that, hell brakes loose. Totally, IRL, I mean it! 

Eyup. ROF was not close to the theoretical maximum for any warship.

[sRuLe]

1 hour ago, ThatZenoGuy said:

Eyup. ROF was not close to the theoretical maximum for any warship.

We not talking theory... we talking practice, we talking - Jutland, sir.

[ThatZenoGuy]

34 minutes ago, sRuLe said:

We not talking theory... we talking practice, we talking - Jutland, sir.

I know that, what I mean is that in practice, guns fired slower than their maximum rates.

I'm agreeing with you. 😜

[Christian]

depends 

 

with washington and south dakota they both had a 1.7 rate of fire when fighting kirishima

 

generally the first shots are ranging shots and at the ranges ww1 ships where firing at combined with the hitrates combined with their ammo supply per gun

yeah there were reasons why they waited to fire fast and corrected their shots

 

having a 3% hitrate while only firing at 1 rof with aimed salvos with only 90 rounds per gun and shooting at 2-2.5 rof very very quickly empties the magazines with even lower than 3% hitrate

its better to conserve ammo and fire slower than to empty it all in 45 minutes and have 0 rounds left while having a sub 2% hitrate

 

main problem is also running out of ammo before you have sunk the enemy ship is not really preferable

and with the 20-25km hitrates BBs were getting in 1940 that very much was a possibility

Edited November 4, 2019 by Christian