Sealed Bottles?

[Jack Spencer]

What happened to Sealed Bottles. I started sailing PvP right after the "Final Release." I have reached the rank of Master Commander. During that time I have sailed about 90% of my time in cargo/passenger missions in TLynx and TBrigs, fishing the entire journey. In all that time I have never received a sealed bottle. Am I just unlucky or is the game broken?

[Audacious]

Sealed bottles are useless. Devs need to buff rewards. 

[Macjimm]

9 hours ago, Cetric de Cornusiac said:

Not true. Ink answered to a similar topic and said bottles are affected by fishing perk as well.

https://forum.game-labs.net/topic/31277-do-fishing-perk-give-more-sealed-bottles/#comment-667603

[Farrago]

You've just been unlucky. I can go weeks we thought a bottle and then find 3 in one week. 

[Raekur]

The rate of drop it seems has decreased quite a bit and the Fisher perk does not increase the chance of a bottle, only increases the quality of the fish caught.

[qw569😳]

Fish are caught on average every 160 seconds.

Thus, in one hour, you get 22 messages about fishing.

Now let's look at the loot table that applies to fishing. For example Atlantic Bays Fishing Loot Table (id= 580 )

Item	Chance
Catfish	1
Bull Shark	0.05
Barracuda	0.2
Drum	0.3
Eel	0.05
Needlefish	1
Smooth Hammerhead Shark	0.05
Sealed Bottle	0.013
Salt	1

P.S.

My record is about 40 hours without sealed bottles (AFK fishing).

 

[jodgi]

1 hour ago, Jack Spencer said:

In all that time I have never received a sealed bottle. Am I just unlucky or is the game broken?

Great satire, I couldn't have done it better.

[Hethwill, the Red Duke]

2 hours ago, qw569 said:

Fish are caught on average every 160 seconds.

Thus, in one hour, you get 22 messages about fishing.

Now let's look at the loot table that applies to fishing. For example Atlantic Bays Fishing Loot Table (id= 580 )

Item	Chance
Catfish	1
Bull Shark	0.05
Barracuda	0.2
Drum	0.3
Eel	0.05
Needlefish	1
Smooth Hammerhead Shark	0.05
Sealed Bottle	0.013
Salt	1

P.S.

My record is about 40 hours without sealed bottles (AFK fishing).

 

To simulate this, roll two D10 ( one is dozens, the other units ) 22 times, every time you roll a 100 ( fairly close to 0.013 / 1.000 ) you score a bottle.

There's no guarantees of ever rolling a 100 but it might happen.

[Potemkin]

Ive found (no idea if its factual) that if you sail close to shore you get crap fish and very very very rarely a bottle. When sailing far from shore where you get fish worth 5 or 10 or 20 provisions when broken down i seem to get bottles more frequently but idk if that has any correlation with bottle drop chance.

Edited September 17, 2019 by Potemkin

[Atimk]

Weren't there inshore and offshore fishes? Don't know how much changed from then but diffrent spot for diffrent fish was written at NA Wiki, Fish Location tab
http://www.navalactionwiki.com/index.php?title=Fishing

[Macjimm]

Jack,

You will eventually get a bottle.  We recently received an answer that the Fisher perk increases the chance of a Sealed Bottle drop. (Can't find the post).

You will catch different fish depending on your location, but bottles can be found anywhere.  Deep water holds bigger fish, and the shallows has smaller fish.   There are spots where you can catch the same fish each time.  I've caught bottles near ports, beside forts, on remote islands shores, in open deep water, in shallows.

I recently found 4 bottles in two days, but have waited months with none.

[Jack Spencer]

Thanks for the observations and comments. Guess I keep on sailing with a line in the water and an eye on the horizon.

 

[[MCC] Die Antwoord]

1 hour ago, Jack Spencer said:

Thanks for the observations and comments. Guess I keep on sailing with a line in the water and an eye on the horizon.

 

I got 150 hours or so sailed in the last few weeks since I came back, I have yet to see a bottle... Yet some other guy was bragging earlier this week in chat about getting his 3rd bottle in a week.

Shit luck I guess..

[Lord Earl Grey]

I haven't found any bottled wealth myself, but it appears they are very much still around I wish you the best of luck and I do hope you will find your bottle soon enough, and let us hope the content will be worth the trouble : )

[Cetric de Cornusiac]

11 hours ago, Raekur said:

The rate of drop it seems has decreased quite a bit and the Fisher perk does not increase the chance of a bottle, only increases the quality of the fish caught.

Not true. Ink answered to a similar topic and said bottles are affected by fishing perk as well.

[Sir Texas Sir]

RNG gods just hate you, I get bottles it's the loot from my gold chest that seem to be nothing but basic stuff or every thing I'm not looking for.

[Earl of Grey]

19 hours ago, Hethwill said:

To simulate this, roll two D10 ( one is dozens, the other units ) 22 times, every time you roll a 100 ( fairly close to 0.013 / 1.000 ) you score a bottle.

There's no guarantees of ever rolling a 100 but it might happen.

There has to be another factor too because f.e. you dont get a Catfish every times ... catfish chance is 1.0 ...

[woodenfish]

I'm guessing:

First it picks an item from the list at random

- if that is Catfish, Needlefish or salt, then you get one

- otherwise you get the % chance to get one

[Hethwill, the Red Duke]

4 hours ago, Gilles de Rais said:

There has to be another factor too because f.e. you dont get a Catfish every times ... catfish chance is 1.0 ...

Conditional ( like many roll games ); either get one of the less than 1.0 and if roll fails, get guaranteed 1.0 results.

Roll.... no dice on the chance items. Roll again to see how many catfish and jacks and salt you get.

That's a possibility. And it is used in many games, whatever media used ( board, pc, etc )

[Angus MacDuff]

I've captured 3 sealed bottles off of players in the last two weeks.  Who needs fishing?

[[MCC] Die Antwoord]

Got my first one last night, close to 3 weeks of playing 10 hours a day on average most of it at sea. Got my first deadman's chest an hour later too. T'was a good day!

[Clifford Scott Wilson]

When i first started playing after release i used the Fishing perk for over a month. I only found 2 bottles the whole time. I stopped using the perk and i started finding bottles all the time. Couple of weeks ago i found 4 bottles in one day. But i played damn near 20 hours that day. (Ive played over 1,300 hours since release) Shallow waters around islands seem to yield the most bottles. Based on my experience i would say the Fishing perk does not help with finding bottles. Its all about getting lucky and doing a lot of sailing.

[Captain2Strong]

On 9/17/2019 at 6:31 PM, Audacious said:

Sealed bottles are useless. Devs need to buff rewards. 

I agree