Player Raids Explained - Small group content for War and Peace Server

[Razee]

Why not keep it way simpler? @admin

Spy mission

Same as passenger mission but you have to do this with a warship, deliver a spy to enemy coast or port. Just have a small countdown 10secs or so to deliver in front of port or area in ow..means more warships sailing everywhere..instead of empty tbrigs as is now

Trade fleet

Few indiamans with small escort sail an announced route once a day or twice a day, people can just get a small group together sail there fight them and others that come to take the fleet.

Small pvp raids.

Have a random port raid you can pick up, sail to that port attack the mission destroy a few harboured (sails down ships near the harbour) take chests from them..defending nation can jump in and fight you getting pvp and some rewards.

Small pve raids.

Have a group of ai 5th (or different rates) attack players near a port, not by a port battle but just by sailing there and attacking any players near that port..they can carry rare upgrades or rare guns as rewards for players sinking them.

Tadaa Easy to make content that doesnt affect players that much when they fail aka upgraded port gets taken,makes people quit the game as its gonna be now.

Anyway nice to see you communicating and implemting new stuff

[Earl of Grey]

Just a small little Wish: can we get some AI attacks on ports of inactive Clans? For example i try to contact a clan to get in his Friendslist for more than 2 weeks ... i wrote the clan-creator a message (i know His name by setting the clan on our friendslist) but No answer, i always ask in nation If there is somebody online of this clan ... No answer, everybody thinks they are inactive ...

With the Frontline system it cant get attacked without capturing the regions capital ...

Pls make AI attacking inactive clans (including clans that are online only 5 min a week ...)

 

[Earl of Grey]

On 9/7/2019 at 1:19 AM, admin said:

Ehm

We will repeat.
Steam and game rules say - if you bought the game and have not broken any rules you can play the game without any limitations. 
This means if you have bought 10 copies you can play on all of them without limits unless you broke the rules (for example interfered repeatedly in the port battle activities)

Alt = logged in player. We allow alts because steam allows alts. Attempts to present alts as bad should be directed to steam support requesting them to ban players for usage of multiple steam client on the same computer or from the same IP. Alts exist in all games (or twinks). 

So for us - Alt is just a player. Unless he breaks game rules. 

If a player sails to sink an npc and get a reward its allowed. 
If a player sails to raid a port - it's allowed. 
This event is for everyone = for every logged in player.

They are the target in both cases and can be sank by others. If others wish to do so. (steal their chest)

 

 

Now i think you misread the consequences word
We said we will be consequences if the event will become popular. Which means lots of rewards will be generated lots of traffic around the area will pass making it useful to stop the raiders because there could be consequences for the PORT.
For example if 1000 chests are stolen during the day - something will happen with the port on the next day. Something bad*. Meaning the server can really **** someone up if they gang up on the port (getting the reward increases - making raiding yourself somewhat counterproductive. 
 

* who knows what that collective of raiders would do.. Morgan and Sores just burnt them.. 

So reading this i have a question: can we get rid of this steam account binding? Or at least why only one NA-Client per Steam Account. Im pretty sure i would have an Alt if i dont need to Install some multibox program and dont need  a second Steam Account ...

Beside this maybe we dont have the login issues when something from steam is " empty" dont remember the exact Error message.

Just do it like Eve does ...

[Hethwill, the Red Duke]

2 hours ago, Gilles de Rais said:

only one NA-Client per Steam Account.

That's how it is.

Alt users run several instances of Steam Client to run all different accounts.

That way there's no steam breach as all accounts are unique.

NA is not the only game with that system imposed. Steam users will run several clients though.

[Thonys]

22 minutes ago, Hethwill said:

That's how it is.

Alt users run several instances of Steam Client to run all different accounts.

That way there's no steam breach as all accounts are unique.

NA is not the only game with that system imposed. Steam users will run several clients though.

but you can only run only run 1 account on a computer... right 

so if they use sandboxie they override the normal windows steam system.. right 

so you can say they are cheaters ..right (by using a third party program)

or have i mist something i mean does lenin really has 7 computers running? 

or can i use steam and running 3 alt on one computer without the use of sandboxie?

 

Edited September 8, 2019 by Thonys

[Hethwill, the Red Duke]

4 minutes ago, Thonys said:

but you can only run only run 1 account on a computer... right 

that's what admin said. check the Steam EULA and submit complaints to them.

many of us play with one account only and we have ultimate admiral age of sail fun. we barely have time for one account let alone two or more.

/back to topic

 

@admin is it possible that this raid mechanic be adapted to Peace server ? After initial raid and on the way back the raiding group to be attacked by enemy AI in the OW ?

 

[melarky]

@admin I am very confused about what will be going into PvP and what into PvE. Then commenters here make it worse. Would you try separate thread for each. After all this I still have no idea what is planned for PvE other than some sort of port raid.

 

Would appreciate that and I have heard several others make similar comments in the game.

[Tenet]

On 9/6/2019 at 11:14 AM, admin said:

Because the mission is for everyone too many announcements will spam too often and will defeat the purpose of the announcement anyway.

I have a solution for that problem:

1. Enable the announcements in an API that players can use to create parsing tools / websites - ex: the twitter bot that does PB info

2. Enable the announcements in a separate optional menu in the map - showing a feed in descending order with latest at the top, with a sort pull down menu to pick an All or Area-Name. 

[huliotkd]

btw, when will this patch be deployed? and which ships players can use for the raid? i hope nothing bigger than a 4th rate

[gimli_balinson]

so again about the message that a raid started why it should be a message like at the pb? we already have a nation, global and combat news chat so why not  add   a raid news chat?

 

[Mezcolanza]

The success of this idea will depend on having the right balance of difficulty in obtaining keys to open the chest in a port other than the originating port. Too easy, and folks will just exploit it because they steal the chest and are able to take it possibly to a very close port. If it's too difficult to get the keys, this will all just be a PVE grind mechanic because it will be too much trouble to profit from stealing the chest from players.

[Baptiste Gallouédec]

Don't know if it's the langage barrier but the explanation of what ports will be availlable to be raided is obscure to me, will this only concern a few richest ports of the map of the richest ports of each region ?

Anyway this seems of very little interest gameplaywise, quite like the treasure fleets, this will only serve the same few group of players that comes first. Any new player or casual will never even understand the rule..   

[AeRoTR]

1 hour ago, Baptiste Gallouédec said:

Any new player or casual will never even understand the rule.. 

They will never understand any rule, including ROE, RVR, patrol ROE, and many other things, they need someone to tell them, or they need this forum and latest valid patch notes, also some stuff has no patch notes ever.

This is another big problem of Naval Action, don’t you think @admin ?

There needs to be in game encylopedia or integrated and updated wiki.

[Bluetooth]

On 9/6/2019 at 8:50 PM, admin said:

You are missing the spoon of shit in the barrel of whiskey. Which can be spoiling the whole barrel.

😂😂😂😂

[van der Clam]

Did raids get removed? No pirate ports have any raid missions available this morning.

[Conte D. Catellani]

On 9/6/2019 at 4:19 PM, admin said:

• Raids are potentially profitable if you are raiding the rich port (this means not all raids are equal)
•  

i'm having fun with these Raid Mission with my clan but i have a question..: Remedios and Trinidad have 1.5kk and 1.2kk  daily tax and they have a good reward : more than 20k dobloons, victory marks, combat medals, reals and chest...so why Puerto Plata has 2.1kk taxes and just 847 Dobloons and 63K reals plus the chest? 

Edited April 23, 2020 by Conte D. Catellani
Add the word reward after good

[Beeekonda]

Does anyone even use this feature? 

[Cathal Brugha]

How to even use it?

Edited April 23, 2020 by Cathal Brugha

[Conte D. Catellani]

Today Santo Domingo has: 26K Doubloons, 26Cm, 7 Vm and just  768.2K taxes 🤔

[Conte D. Catellani]

oh many thanks for the explanation

[Nixolai]

4 minutes ago, rediii said:

Because there are no investments in the port

Upgrade the port please. Give the man content. :)))