Sea Archer Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 Today I didn't took care during battle and hit the land. I managed to turn the ship, bow at about 45° to the open sea with the wind nearly from behind. My stern was placed in land and I couldn't get the ship moving again, no matter what I tried with the sails. During the whole time the ai I was fighting shot at me. Finally I could leave the battle during a short break, where ai didn't hit me. To avoid this, I suggest to install a button for pulling the ship away from land. It might take 5min and all crew will leave battle station (bad maneuvering must have consequences), but in the end your bow should be turned away from land and ship is free to sail again and the fight can continue. 1
Sir Texas Sir Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 Are just don't sail close to land, They need to put leeway wind back into game....that was awesome watching every one get beached lol Though when it does happen you normally just have to wait for the wind to turn enough to push you off the shore.
Papillon Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 No. If you can't sail properly you don't get a bailout. Expect the consequences instead. Why do we need a bailout button for every poor action in this game? Learn from mistakes and move on.
Sea Archer Posted July 1, 2019 Author Posted July 1, 2019 18 hours ago, Papillon said: No. If you can't sail properly you don't get a bailout. Expect the consequences instead. Why do we need a bailout button for every poor action in this game? Learn from mistakes and move on. The consequence is that you will stuck for at least some minutes, where you cannot really defend yourself. In reality no captain would just sit and wait, he would try get his ship floating again. That is what I want to see in this game.
Slim McSauce Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 19 hours ago, Papillon said: No. If you can't sail properly you don't get a bailout. Expect the consequences instead. Why do we need a bailout button for every poor action in this game? Learn from mistakes and move on. In real life sailors had the option to send boats holding an anchor, then pulling the line to free a boat from a shoal. 1
Hethwill, the Red Duke Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Slim McSauce said: In real life ... a lot doesn't correlate to what happens in game . If a vessel is firmly beached, IRL, no way you going to move it out. She's gone Jim. Plus a lot of warnings are given about leeshore. Stay away from it at all costs. The more canvas you open the worse the leeway is. 1
Slim McSauce Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Hethwill said: ... a lot doesn't correlate to what is in game . Maybe that's the problem
Sea Archer Posted July 1, 2019 Author Posted July 1, 2019 In game we can build up a full ship with our repairs, so why not taking the ship off the beach? Is the consequence of being hit by round shot so much different to get stuck on land? Why only healing one of both (with repairs) and not the other issue, which may cost you a completely undamaged ship?
Oli Garchy Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 On 6/30/2019 at 4:12 AM, Sir Texas Sir said: Are just don't sail close to land, They need to put leeway wind back into game....that was awesome watching every one get beached lol Though when it does happen you normally just have to wait for the wind to turn enough to push you off the shore. There is leeway just not the ridiculous exaggerated kind like when it was first introduced
Hethwill, the Red Duke Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Sea Archer said: In game we can build up a full ship with our repairs, so why not taking the ship off the beach? Is the consequence of being hit by round shot so much different to get stuck on land? Why only healing one of both (with repairs) and not the other issue, which may cost you a completely undamaged ship? Zero correlation. Same could be said of failure to tack on purpose and our fishtail moves but hey, don't nitpick. 1
Farrago Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 12 hours ago, Sea Archer said: The consequence is that you will stuck for at least some minutes, where you cannot really defend yourself. In reality no captain would just sit and wait, he would try get his ship floating again. That is what I want to see in this game. Not likely to be able to put out boats and pull free during a battle but the good news if you survive by either escaping or outlasting the 90 minute timer, you’ll be free in OW. 3
Slim McSauce Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Hethwill said: Zero correlation. Same could be said of failure to tack on purpose and our fishtail moves but hey, don't nitpick. Zero? Repairing is a failure to maintain the integrity of your ship through mistakes. Pulling your boat from a sandbar takes the same principle.
Papillon Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Hethwill said: Correct. Zero. I was going to reply exactly as you have HW, but then I kind of see the other argument. Failures in both cases. But I still agree those cases are a bit different. The penalty of getting stuck in irons for example is sometimes you are just stuck and it can cost you the fight...same as dumb-beaching and it can cause you to lose the fight. God doesn't reset your ship position if you are in irons so why should God move your ship off land if you are beached. Tough call, in the end I agree with you, just pay attention and learn to sail. Edited July 1, 2019 by Papillon
Slim McSauce Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 37 minutes ago, Papillon said: God doesn't reset your ship position if you are in irons so why should God move your ship off land if you are beached. Tough call, in the end I agree with you, just pay attention and learn to sail. Of course he doesn't. If you're stuck in irons you position your sails to get out. If you are beached or stuck on a shoal, you take a handful of crew and some boats, lower an anchor onto the boat, row it out, drop it in and then have men on the ship yank and pull on the line and it will pull your ship out. It doesn't take a miracle to do this.
Papillon Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Slim McSauce said: Of course he doesn't. If you're stuck in irons you position your sails to get out. If you are beached or stuck on a shoal, you take a handful of crew and some boats, lower an anchor onto the boat, row it out, drop it in and then have men on the ship yank and pull on the line and it will pull your ship out. It doesn't take a miracle to do this. Probably not, but it will probably take much more time for rowboats, etc, than escaping irons. Time you don't have while you're beached and your stern is getting smashed.
Slim McSauce Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Papillon said: Probably not, but it will probably take much more time for rowboats, etc, than escaping irons. Time you don't have while you're beached and your stern is getting smashed. Should take about 3-5 minutes, depending how deep in the shit you are. Grappling mechanic, click on an area, get pulled for 5 seconds, wait for cooldown if you aren't free do it again.
Papillon Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 Probably also true, but if you take 3 broadsides in that time you're kinda screwed anyway. 1
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