Pandora Feedback

[Sir David Green]

7 minutes ago, Barbancourt said:

Yeah, I have to aim those carronades really low, and any little bit of heel during the broadside sends everything flying over the enemy deck.

With medium guns I aim directly into their lower side from a good broadsiding distance, and all my shots fling into their masts for some reason in the Pandora.

[z4ys]

1 minute ago, Sir David Green said:

With medium guns I aim directly into their lower side from a good broadsiding distance, and all my shots fling into their masts for some reason in the Pandora.

10 minutes ago, Barbancourt said:

Yeah, I have to aim those carronades really low, and any little bit of heel during the broadside sends everything flying over the enemy deck.

@admin pandora and pirate lgv refit are some good examples that mixed gun deck behaviors still need fixing (because of 2pd swivels) regarding gunnery they almost behave like meds, but just almost.

When disableing a deck via F1 (+ F2, F3....) the other decks (when all the same gun type) shouldnt be influrenced by its aiming anymore. Aiming should behave like this disabled deck was never there.

Prince is an other example when carronades are used on deck 2 (even disabled) and grape is loaded into deck1 (with long guns) it feels like grape is rolling slowly out of the gun barrels. In order to hit a target at the same hight (gunport hight of prince) at 20m distance its necessary to aim the gun into the sky.

 

Edited April 8, 2019 by z4ys

[LeBoiteux]

Has anyone tried to sail the Pandora without swivel guns (empty slot) ? The gunnery aiming seems more like the one we're used to. 

Tried once with carro.

Edited April 8, 2019 by LeBoiteux

[LeBoiteux]

33 minutes ago, Intrepido said:

Masts are too easy to break. Combined with low dps and being easy to hit I think she needs a buff to remain competitive.

What do you mean by low DPS ? Her broadside weight is about that of La Renommée...much better than the Cerberus.

Her armour is better than the Hercules.

I don't know about the mast but everything else about her seems ok. IMO, she's in her proper place among the shallow frigates and, more broadly, among the 9-pdr ships (LRQ, Niagara, shallow frigates). No need of a buff.

Edited April 8, 2019 by LeBoiteux

[Saint George]

Nice boat. Thanks. Feels very under gunned with 9 pounders. So the "5th rate" label feels misleading. But that may because of the AI "Buff". 32 Lb carros may be the way to go.

[van der Clam]

On 4/6/2019 at 10:20 PM, LIONOFWALES said:

Thank you for the Pandora! I have been looking forward to this neat little ship for some time now and look forward to using her...

The Pandora is a great ship for open world hunting... she will be good for preying on traders and is fast enough to do some scout work. Excellent and useful little ship in my opinion. If you run Medium cannons on her... she is fully manned all the time, guns and sailing with 6 or so crew left for boarding passively... very efficient little ship. Thank you Devs! She reminds me a lot of a Surprise... perhaps with the maneuvering between a Cerberus and a Surprise. The Pandora does seem to bleed the momentum while going through the wind just a tad faster than my Surprise... but that could be due to the fact my Surprise has some good upgrades on it...

 

I have the swivel guns empty, with longs everywhere else and still undercrewed. Will def switch  to meds.

On 4/7/2019 at 4:08 AM, Wyy said:

IMO swivel Guns should work as 2nd armament like in wows

This is a good idea...plus they need to be able to aim lower. They don't seem to be in line with other decks.

3 hours ago, captain smile said:

very good light fregate, good br,

Problem : aiming to hight ? I play full carronades but i noticed that is shooting way to hight in combat or ever in boarding phase . ( i have art of ship/ gunnery encyclopedia a)

 

Yes, boarding any ship of equal size I have landed only 2 hits multiple times when using brackets to fire. I have to wait for a wave to land more, and still the middle deck always misses.

[z4ys]

On 4/7/2019 at 11:44 AM, LeBoiteux said:

Very nice texturing and modeling (All those details !). Congrats !

you forgot that little crowny detail ❤️

Edited April 8, 2019 by z4ys

[Greysteak]

The Pandora is very nice to look at.  That much I can say for certain right now.

I haven't seen enough combat to be sure but so far it doesn't feel as overpowered for a dlc like the Req or Herc.  That's a good thing if it holds true.  It definitely does not need a buff in any way.

My concerns about all dlc ships remain.  I still feel that they need some kind of basic nerf to restore the in-game economics.  Something like reducing the knowledge slots available for them or one of the many other ideas.

Thank you very much for the Pandora.

[andymanty]

I use my fir fir no canon Pandora as a 32 knot fishing boat on pve.

[Guest]

The swivel Guns dont swivel

[Beeekonda]

При нажатии ЛКМ не в снайперском режиме передние не начинают прицеливатся для стрельбы с пробела. Корма и борты работают

[Sir David Green]

1 minute ago, Beeekonda said:

При нажатии ЛКМ не в снайперском режиме передние не начинают прицеливатся для стрельбы с пробела. Корма и борты работают

I agree

[captain smile]

20 hours ago, Intrepido said:

Masts are too easy to break. Combined with low dps and being easy to hit I think she needs a buff to remain competitive.

Looks good for me .

[DeRuyter]

I agree with other posts about the swivels - ran an all medium set up and also found the swivels cause all decks to fire high. Even turning them off it seemed the other decks still fired high. 

@van der DeckenRunning with mediums and no mods poses a problem though. Landed 49 mast hit on an LGV and nothing fell b/c no pens. Even using charge and some within 100m. Also found the ship is not a brawler T/WO/Very sturdy and melting from LGV broadsides. Gonna switch to longs/carros/no swivels and see what happens to the firing arc. 

Great looking model. 

 

[mikawa]

I believe the shooting has to be modified. Atm she behaves completely different than all other ship models, even with swivels unequipped.

[Ligatorswe]

Yes I agree. the main weakness with Pandora is that she is firing high sometimes.

[Captain Hammered]

I've started testing the Pandora - LUVVERLY little ship, I must say!

Excellent turn, speed and accelleration; to be expected for a ship its class.

I find it similar in many ways to a Surp; it would hold a similar role.

I made a video of an engagement near Nassau against a Privateer - tiny little thing; good for target practice.

As others have noted, the top-deck swivels do aim high, and draw the other guns with them. I'm just not sure it's a major issue - as I say in the video (I narrated this one lol) it seems less of a bug and more of a condition of those specific guns. In short, they'll take practice to learn but I'm happy with them.

Here's the video: Not the best fight of mine by a longshot; but excellent practice and good experience.

Cheers!

 

 

 

[Barbancourt]

6 hours ago, Captain Hammered said:

 

As others have noted, the top-deck swivels do aim high, and draw the other guns with them. I'm just not sure it's a major issue - as I say in the video (I narrated this one lol) it seems less of a bug and more of a condition of those specific guns. In short, they'll take practice to learn but I'm happy

 

 

 

I don't understand why the main gun deck isn't always given priority in both of the aiming indicators?  I reallly hate using ships that have partial upper decks where you have to keep wasting critical moments turning the upper decks off/on to see the indicators for the far more important lower/main gun deck. 

 

Edited April 13, 2019 by Barbancourt

[LIONOFWALES]

The Pandora fire high because you are leaving the 2 pound swivels active, gotta deactivate them... then she shoots as fine as the Surprise.

Have to be picky with when to engage that 2 pound swivel gun deck, it throws aiming off a bit otherwise. Especially in regards to mediums or longs.

Edited April 13, 2019 by LIONOFWALES

[LIONOFWALES]

7 hours ago, Captain Hammered said:

I've started testing the Pandora - LUVVERLY little ship, I must say!

Excellent turn, speed and accelleration; to be expected for a ship its class.

I find it similar in many ways to a Surp; it would hold a similar role.

I made a video of an engagement near Nassau against a Privateer - tiny little thing; good for target practice.

As others have noted, the top-deck swivels do aim high, and draw the other guns with them. I'm just not sure it's a major issue - as I say in the video (I narrated this one lol) it seems less of a bug and more of a condition of those specific guns. In short, they'll take practice to learn but I'm happy with them.

Here's the video: Not the best fight of mine by a longshot; but excellent practice and good experience.

Cheers!

Please see my post above... also remember … that while moving through a turn and if moving the guns, at the same time, accuracy is hurt... musts steady before releasing broadsides...depending on how the fight is going and how close range the fight is… this becomes  a bit less important, mast sniping is key to many victories in PVP as well, and can be applied any where if the Commander is patient enough for a long game.

Good video, reflects the game well. I hope you do more videos later as some newer players will find these videos helpful. And as far as narrating goes... yer just fine mate.

Three cheers for the frigates and their gallant Captains!

P.S. I have been waiting for the HMS Pandora to come available... the developers have not disappointed on delivery, very good little ship and in the right hands is capable of taking on any 5th rate. Her masts are fragile... so I would recommend a mast refit that bolsters thickness and hit points if intending PVP. Teak/Teak plus speed mods and maneuvering enhancers and … behold the beast!

 

Edited April 13, 2019 by LIONOFWALES

[Captain Hammered]

24 minutes ago, LIONOFWALES said:

Please see my post above... also remember … that while moving through a turn and if moving the guns, at the same time, accuracy is hurt... musts steady before releasing broadsides...depending on how the fight is going and how close range the fight is… this becomes  a bit less important, mast sniping is key to many victories in PVP as well, and can be applied any where if the Commander is patient enough for a long game.

Good video, reflects the game well. I hope you do more videos later as some newer players will find these videos helpful. And as far as narrating goes... yer just fine mate.

Three cheers for the frigates and their gallant Captains!

P.S. I have been waiting for the HMS Pandora to come available... the developers have not disappointed on delivery, very good little ship and in the right hands is capable of taking on any 5th rate. Her masts are fragile... so I would recommend a mast refit that bolsters thickness and hit points if intending PVP. Teak/Teak plus speed mods and maneuvering enhancers and … behold the beast!

 

Agreed completely and thanks!

I haven't fought in small ships for a dog's age, I'm used to the more sedate pacing and timing of Capital ships and it shows.  

I doubt I would ever take Pandora into PvP; it's simply not 'ma thang' - though I'm positively bristling at the chance to unleash Rattvisan on the War Server this weekend LOL.

I'm going to continue testing and opening book-slots on the lass; I'm fairly confident that with sufficient knowledge and RL experience, the pretty beastie will be able to duel an Indef - I'm placing that as the upper limit at the moment until I truly learn its abilities.

I'm glad you liked the video; I'm going to work with the suggestions offered to my post in the Guides forum to produce much better, slicker videos - I hope at least.

Cheers!

[Beeekonda]

On 4/9/2019 at 1:03 PM, DeRuyter said:

I agree with other posts about the swivels - ran an all medium set up and also found the swivels cause all decks to fire high. Even turning them off it seemed the other decks still fired high. 

@van der DeckenRunning with mediums and no mods poses a problem though. Landed 49 mast hit on an LGV and nothing fell b/c no pens. Even using charge and some within 100m. Also found the ship is not a brawler T/WO/Very sturdy and melting from LGV broadsides. Gonna switch to longs/carros/no swivels and see what happens to the firing arc. 

Great looking model. 

  

you probly did demasting wrong 

[Captain Hammered]

1 hour ago, Beeekonda said:

you probly did demasting wrong 

Possible, but if @DeRuyter was precise enough to record mast hits, saying he 'did demasting wrong' is both premature and unhelpful. We've seen that Pandora has a fairly unique gunnery profile; I would prefer to see solid data and accurate information before making judgements.

Edited April 13, 2019 by Captain Hammered

[z4ys]

When carronades are equiped (stern) it doesnt look right

[Baptiste Gallouédec]

Anyone manage to aim lower than the horizon with the swivels deck ?

also why swivels can t use grape shot? Isn  t it one of their main use ?