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Its now a DLC ship and might not be sailing in ow anymore and not open for capture + keeping

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Only available with the upcoming DLC I assume

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I do not think it is a boat that invites anyone to use dlc, honestly it is a pretty mediocre boat that can be replaced by any frigate that buys in a port or catches, I prefer that they try to take out new boats such as the mountaineers, the nepomuceno, the santa ana and in my case if I would be willing to pay for one dlc of those boats even if it was not available every 24 hours. It is my opinion.
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9 hours ago, Barbancourt said:

It seems the trend in the game is to encourage people to use as many DLC ships as possible.

Who would have thought... ;)

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12 hours ago, firebool said:

I do not think it is a boat that invites anyone to use dlc, honestly it is a pretty mediocre boat that can be replaced by any frigate that buys in a port or catches, I prefer that they try to take out new boats such as the mountaineers, the nepomuceno, the santa ana and in my case if I would be willing to pay for one dlc of those boats even if it was not available every 24 hours. It is my opinion.

Use the default font size if you want your post to be read, the ticker tape is just annoying.

I can well imagine they will buff the L'Hermione to a shine before putting it behind a pay wall.

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19 hours ago, Atreides said:

Use the default font size if you want your post to be read, the ticker tape is just annoying.

I can well imagine they will buff the L'Hermione to a shine before putting it behind a pay wall.

The Hermione is already fine. as a DLC I am fairly sure she'll be used and I don't think the Hermione needs any kind of buff.

1. The Hermione has the fastest base speed of all deep water Frigates. The only 5th rates faster are Pandora, Hercules, Renomee, Cerberus, and Surprise (the Shallow Water Frigates).
2. The Hermione has the 5th highest base HPs of all 5th rates (not counting Trade Ships). the only 5th rates with more Hitpoints are Endymion (1st), Trincomalee (2nd), Diana (3rd), and Santa Cecillia (4th). In fact it has roughly 1,400 more hitpoints than the Essex and 1,000 more hitpoints than the Pirate Frigate, which are currently the "best" 5th rates you can get without Permits. With the new HP changes the Belle Poule is now 50HPs less than the Hermione.

Personally I think people are going to be surprised fighting against the Hermione with these above points. I am absolutely sure the Hermione can be beaten by other vessels, but as a DLC I expect it will be well received for those who purchase it.

EDIT: due to HP changes - I have adjusted some points - Hermione is now 5th highest HPs instead of 4th. It is still the fastest deep water ship.

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Hmm, fair points, to be honest I didn't realise the Hermione had such stats.  I have 1v1 several players with me in an AI capped Essex and they in a Hermione and I almost always sink them.  Though YMMV.

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1 hour ago, rediii said:

hermione is the biggest/fastest straight downwind sailor only compareable with the pirate frig. 

Check the current API values. L'Hermione and La Belle Poule are basically the same ship with very minor differences. Which is right where it should be, balance-wise.

Any (non-shallow) 5th rate that needs a permit, meaning Trincomalee (Permit for 15 CMs) and Endymion (Permit in chests only) is stronger across the board.

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Btw. @admin did we get any info on what the redeem cooldown on the bigger DLC ships will be? I really hope it is not only 24h. Especially for the Rättvisan. 🙏
Inappropriate Cooldowns can easily break any balance no matter the ship stats, which for all DLC ships (apart from maybe the Requin - hardest to balance) look very good since todays patch. Kudos to you for that!

EDIT: Nevermind just saw that it is indeed 24h for both ships. Maaan you were so close to nailing it. :(

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18 hours ago, Teutonic said:

The Hermione is already fine. as a DLC I am fairly sure she'll be used and I don't think the Hermione needs any kind of buff.

1. The Hermione has the fastest base speed of all deep water Frigates. The only 5th rates faster are Pandora, Hercules, Renomee, Cerberus, and Surprise (the Shallow Water Frigates).
2. The Hermione has the 4th highest base HPs of all 5th rates (not counting Trade Ships). the only 5th rates with more Hitpoints are Endymion (1st), Trincomalee (2nd), and Diana (3rd). In fact it has roughly 1,400 more hitpoints than the Essex and 1,700 more hitpoints than the Pirate Frigate, which are currently the "best" 5th rates you can get without Permits.

Personally I think people are going to be surprised fighting against the Hermione with these above points. I am absolutely sure the Hermione can be beaten by other vessels, but as a DLC I expect it will be well received for those who purchase it.

 

1 hour ago, rediii said:

hermione is the biggest/fastest straight downwind sailor only compareable with the pirate frig. 

 

22 minutes ago, Tom Farseer said:

Check the current API values. L'Hermione and La Belle Poule are basically the same ship with very minor differences. Which is right where it should be, balance-wise.

Any (non-shallow) 5th rate that needs a permit, meaning Trincomalee (Permit for 15 CMs) and Endymion (Permit in chests only) is stronger across the board.

Updates on HPs has changed what I said before. Currently it's honestly still very similar - but as @Tom Farseer says, the Belle Poule is right behind the Hermione in HPs now.

I have EDITED my previous comment to show the changes.

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On 4/3/2019 at 7:30 PM, Portuguese Privateer said:

Just hope they don't wipe out the L'Hermione's that people got crafted or anything, 'cause that would be a really dick move. One of my favorite frigates right now.

I haven't checked mine yet - does anybody know?

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If you opened slots on the previous Hermoine, are they still open on the DLC?

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On 4/4/2019 at 2:27 PM, Teutonic said:

The Hermione is already fine. as a DLC I am fairly sure she'll be used and I don't think the Hermione needs any kind of buff.

1. The Hermione has the fastest base speed of all deep water Frigates. The only 5th rates faster are Pandora, Hercules, Renomee, Cerberus, and Surprise (the Shallow Water Frigates).
2. The Hermione has the 5th highest base HPs of all 5th rates (not counting Trade Ships). the only 5th rates with more Hitpoints are Endymion (1st), Trincomalee (2nd), Diana (3rd), and Santa Cecillia (4th). In fact it has roughly 1,400 more hitpoints than the Essex and 1,000 more hitpoints than the Pirate Frigate, which are currently the "best" 5th rates you can get without Permits. With the new HP changes the Belle Poule is now 50HPs less than the Hermione.

Personally I think people are going to be surprised fighting against the Hermione with these above points. I am absolutely sure the Hermione can be beaten by other vessels, but as a DLC I expect it will be well received for those who purchase it.

EDIT: due to HP changes - I have adjusted some points - Hermione is now 5th highest HPs instead of 4th. It is still the fastest deep water ship.

Thank you for the fine breakdown of the ships abilities!!! 

Been debating whether or not to purchase and your description clears up many questions.

Thank you!!!

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