What is content?

[victor]

2 hours ago, jodgi said:

"I constructed unrealistic expectations that weren't based on devs stated intentions, but rather my own ideas of what it could be. I now regret this."

You may be done testing and proposing, but you seem to reserve the right to criticise. Probably out of the goodness of your heart.

You see what you want to see. You hear what you want to hear.

Now, please read what I write: I liked a game that was actually there some months ago and it was called naval action (I have been playing almost 7000 hours in total). Such game has been changed in a way that induced me to quit. The missing 2000 players probably think like me, the remaining 500 think like you.

This is what I am saying. If you do not (want to) understand ... who cares?

PS: PVP is a sideshow in EVE online? Are you playing it? No, because otherwise you would not tell it. Even the most carebearish carebear of empire space shall live with the ghost of non consensual PVP in EVE. But point is that in that game there is MORE than that to do.

PS 2: but hey, no reason to get angry. Basically you are one of the smartest vet players still posting on forum. Even if - TBH - lately I noted a tiny bit of bitterness in your posts. 

 

Edited February 24, 2019 by victor

[Macjimm]

Content is what players do between battles.  The scenery, fishing, weather and ship types are content.  Crafting, shop goods/resources, ship building, and contracts are content.

When the Devs update the economy it may provide improved options for trading; more content.

Content also includes players:

Talking to other players on TS or chatting in the text windows.

Bargaining to buy from, or sell to, players.

Finding players who need resources, goods, repairs, upgrades, or books and then delivering and selling them.

NA is a good game.  If the dev resource is tiny I expect no more than little improvements.

[Teutonic]

2 hours ago, victor said:

You see what you want to see. You hear what you want to hear.

Now, please read what I write: I liked a game that was actually there some months ago and it was called naval action (I have been playing almost 7000 hours in total). Such game has been changed in a way that induced me to quit. The missing 2000 players probably think like me, the remaining 500 think like you.

This is what I am saying. If you do not (want to) understand ... who cares?

PS: PVP is a sideshow in EVE online? Are you playing it? No, because otherwise you would not tell it. Even the most carebearish carebear of empire space shall live with the ghost of non consensual PVP in EVE. But point is that in that game there is MORE than that to do.

PS 2: but hey, no reason to get angry. Basically you are one of the smartest vet players still posting on forum. Even if - TBH - lately I noted a tiny bit of bitterness in your posts. 

 

not to mention, if you want PvP in Eve Online. you legit can find it in 5 minutes.

[do not say dlc]

7 hours ago, Hullabaloo said:

or because they simply don't have the resources. We have to have reasonable expectations, It's Game-Labs...

And yet with their resources they developed another game on the side of this one(NA Legends).

Its a question of will! I gave plenty ideeas along with broad strokes implementation posibilities and all got ignored.

So the conclusion is that this IS the game they wanted.

[victor]

1 hour ago, Teutonic said:

not to mention, if you want PvP in Eve Online. you legit can find it in 5 minutes.

Neut Catalyst or ArtyThresher? 😂

Edited February 24, 2019 by victor

[Ruthless4u]

22 hours ago, HachiRoku said:

I talk to casuals all the time. I get casuals started all the time. I supply them with the ships I dont need all the time. I also dont just give them random oak ships. I get them fully pimped ships to help them out. I remember when this game first was released. I remember the hours and hours we grinded. I remember exactly how people reacted on ts going from surprise to trinco to connie to 3rd rate to paval and holy hello kitty the santi. Not one of the people said OMG look how cool this trade route is. This game at its very core is combat. Its limited marketing focuses on combat and not trading. Shit, I was sold a lobby based game with no trading at all. 

I'll be honest, the trading and building don't intrest me in the slightest. I watched dozens of YouTube vids seen the combat and fell in love with the game. Odd how you don't see very much on the non combat aspects of the game.

All I ever wanted out of the game was a good fight against other players. Not ganking, not attacking underarmed ai traders, just good fights win or lose.

It was hard for me to join clans, given no voice chat and I'm HoH.

I always viewed my role as 

you need me to hit traders( as boring as that is) to provide resources for other players, I'll do it

Need me to interdict an invasion fleet, I'll do it

Lose a port battle and need me to fight a delaying action( my favorite thing to do lol) so surviving ships can escape I'll do it. Actually done this a few dozen times. Ton of fun.

Need me to harras enemy nations/clan, tie up there players chasing me across the entire map I'll do it.

Hit a port solo to distract the enemy, give me a ring I'm your guy.

I don't care if I lose my ships in the process, all the mentioned activities to me are fun. Sailing back and forth to trade, struggling to stay awake or driving myself nuts to try and get all the crafting materials for a ship over a period of days or weeks is boring.

Thats just me, so maybe I'm nuts

[Teutonic]

2 hours ago, victor said:

Neut Catalyst or ArtyThresher? 😂

I prefer the "brawling breacher" and "cancer repper incursus."

[StaleMemes]

8 hours ago, jodgi said:

First off I want to commend you on your attitude, if more people conducted themselves like you there would be less fighting in these forums.

I think I have to disappoint you, I don't think it's possible to cater to both type players. I think what PVEers want is in direct conflict with what pure PvPers want, and vice versa. Even the most fantastic pve activity is infinitely less attractive to me than anything PvP. So yeah, I'm being impossibly difficult.

Why so defeatist? I've read up on Eve you know the most perfect sandbox game ever. PvP, statistically speaking, is a complete sideshow. You can go look at the numbers, it's public information, most game sessions or player sessions does not even contain any PvP at all. "Most" is an imprecise word, think 1 out of 100 to one out of 1000. 

I do not think I'll be pushed out as there is the tremendous attraction of the upcoming duel zones. I won't be able to subject myself to Eco activities to replace a Bellona or two a week, there might be room in those zones for captains in cheaper ships. I'll admit I'm a bit anxious, though.

I haven't played Eve much, but from what I've seen and heard I would argue that it is a great example of how you can have a strong PVE section population supporting both a much smaller hardcore PVP population and a very dedicated RVR population. Also how you can have varying degrees of PVP and PVE so when a player goes from PVE to PVP it isn't so frustrating for them. (Like getting attacked while fighting AI, full PVE to full PVP unexpectedly and without consent) If the player had to go directly into enemy territory to find AI, and if their sinking that AI somehow affected the clan/nation whose territory they were in, it would feel more fair to be retaliated against by the enemy while raiding, instead of getting interrupted while farming. The player would have to consciously put themselves at risk in order to kill the AI, so that if they were attacked it wouldn't feel as unfair. I feel the complete dichotomy between what is "pvp content" and "pve content" serves to prevent people from "crossing over" from one to the other. The existing PVE content does nothing to push people towards fighting, it encourages people to avoid PVP while farming, and only do PVP when solely focused on it.

Also I don't propose purely PVE based content being added, rather more content that offers some PVE aspects while pitting different players against each other and giving them meaningful reasons to fight (something sorely lacking from the OW right now). Here's an example: For me, what I want to do most in this game is play as a pirate. Not the pirate nation, a pirate's pirate. No big ships, small hideouts, raiding ports instead of besieging them, attacking smaller merchants or ganging up on larger ones, squabbling with other pirates, unable to sail too far from the hideout, etc etc. I don't like sailing ships larger than a heavy brig or corvette anyway. I can think of so many mechanics that would not only make piracy interesting but also pit the pirate class against the clans that own ports they operate around, generating conflict between the two and encouraging clans to try to drive away pirates and assault their hideouts. This is a specific example of what I consider new "content," and while its not 100% PVP focused like RVR or solo dueling, it still would involve and encourage a lot of PVP. If you would like to know more about my proposal for a pirate class in game, I can PM you about it (don't want to derail this into a discussion of pirates.)

I'll give one little example though: A port raid. Pirates just show up and if they have 6+ they can attack the port. They then sail into the port and have to shoot up a few AI ships, maybe destroy a tower or two depending on the port, and then get to special points where they can drop off pirates to go "raid the port" they can also sink stationary anchored AI ships in the harbor. They can continue doing this until the raid is completed or they get chased away by the port's owners who can show up as quickly as they realize they are being raided and sail to the port or join from in it. This would be somewhat PVE but still push players towards PVP, not only in the battle itself but also because clans would want to extirpate pirates from their territory to make it impossible for them to stage a raid. (successful raids would destroy buildings, steal materials or maybe even warehouse goods, and reduce the prosperity of the port). Anyway suppose I should write it all up in a suggestion.

I think overall my big complaint is the lack of diversity in ways to play the game, and the way it does so little to push people towards fighting each other voluntarily or semi-voluntarily. The roles that are not available currently also happen to be the ones which appeal to me most.

[LIONOFWALES]

21 hours ago, Ronald Speirs said:

This game has a combat system but lacks any real content in the open world, it needs an actual economy system where crafting/ modules etc are everywhere and easy to get, POTBS had this done well, its wasnt a hard grind to get a ship and set it up and go have some fun, the ships and modules in game are way to overpriced and some just hard to come by so most people would prefer not to sail out and lose them.

Okay... 

#1 … I don't really see the need or lack of content everyone is talking about...

#2 … There are plenty of resources readily available, I speak from experience, I craft a lot. I do not see the need to make materials more readily available in game. You can also purchase cheap ships in ports if you don't want to craft ships or purchase ships crafted by players, I did this for a long time and did quite well with a less than perfect built Renome. I had the rank to run larger ships, but could not afford them, so I always ran what I could afford to readily replace. Run medium cannons and 5th rates. I recommend anyone that plays this game to remain in a frigate until mastering PVP open world warfare. Otherwise you just run a great risk of losing everything you put your time and effort as a solo player... aka... that glorious line ship which I just lost to a player in a 5th rate.

#3 … You are encouraged to run what is affordable for you to run... to be competitive in this game, you do not need to have the largest ship or the biggest crews. This is a game of skill and meta. A player that only has 40 hours in game will not be able to match a player that has over 1000 solid open world PVP hours in game. In time such a player will be able to match this sort of ultimate dreadnought player, but it will take time and much practice.

#4 … This game is intended to have a player driven economy, and from my experience, if there is no cap placed on what players are allowed to sell their goods at, the economy will inflate. But that is ok with me... I craft goods and sell them faster because of the inflated economy. In an environment where players can ask 3000 reals for 12 pound long cannons... I can easily sell mine for 1000 or so each, this returns to me a great deal of reals per unit of resources and vs hours for production. The economy is good for sellers, but not for the newbie. 

So all this lack of content talk just is not connecting for me... I return to the game every day and there is always plenty for me to do, I play for an hour generally or so, then get off. Sometimes I just sail the seas, other times I hunt, other times I manufacture goods and sell them, I can do what ever I want to, I just need to watch my back and always have an escape plan. I have lost many battles but now I have won many battles, when I started I was a baby, but since I have immersed myself in the game I have discovered ways of doing things for myself, but this means I always run what I can replace for myself easily. This approach has made the game far more enjoyable to me, the risk is low, I can afford my losses, and I play a balanced game of a bit of everything. Am I the best player? Probably not. But I still come back to the game with a new idea or mission in mind. The game is what we make it for ourselves to be. The content in my game is driven by m y choices from day to day, what I am doing and what others are doing around me.

So could we post what we would like to be content? Instead of just listing.... er… this game has lack of content.

Let the ideas flow.

Edited February 25, 2019 by LIONOFWALES

[LIONOFWALES]

9 hours ago, victor said:

not to mention, if you want PvP in Eve Online. you legit can find it in 5 minutes.

Okay... Eve online you can travel at light speeds and warp right into star systems... I love Eve online too but... warping around does not fit into a Sailing Combat Game. Naval Action, in my opinion, will always be slower paced. This I feel is a good thing and really helps players get into that age of sail personality. At least it does it for me. I personally would never expect Naval Action to be EVE online... because its Naval Action.

[kitsunelegend]

Seems my comment was outright deleted. Nice censorship there! Great way to keep players liking your game, or continue to get feedback!

 

If the devs are THAT sensitive about feedback, then they shouldn't be on the internet at all.

[VirtuallyIdiotic]

Let me place it this way. Naval Action has content with PvP, RvR, PvE, crafting, and eventually trading will be back to a state where one could consider it to be content. Granted I feel that RvR is lacking in variation, both it and PvE are very grind oriented it is still considered content. What is lacking is variation. Something new that draws players back every so often and keeps them interested in the game long enough for the next piece of content. Example would be special events. Things that you see commonly in MMO game-types. Many times this is holiday oriented or some addition to a story line quest. Not saying Naval Action needs a story line just giving examples. Just overall the game needs variation to keep consumers interested. Now, players taking breaks from the game is unavoidable but you need that thing to draw them back. That is what the goal of content should be after final release. Sort of what they have done on the latest testbed with the 25 kills and 5 boarding rewards. Create something more grand on the regular servers with a greater reward or something similar that rather than seeming like a boring task feels like a goal worth striving for.

[van Veen]

20 hours ago, Hethwill said:

Might be a better mental exercise than simply writing something pulled out of a morning without coffee.

Thank you for worrying about my morning coffee. Indeed, I am not 100% happy with the latte foam from my espresso machine. It's probably a handling error on my side, so I'd appreciate some good advice. 

20 hours ago, Hethwill said:

Plenty of them  

...

No disrespect meant sir, just pure truth against a void comment.

Calling my comment void without giving any proof of your own claim is quite cheap and I am not inclined to let you get away with this so easily, sir! You fired a warning shot, so I shall hoist my colors and prepare for battle. *stiff salute*

 

[van Veen]

@Hethwill

Now back on topic, which is good content suggestions. I am happy you fall on this matter, because I insist on my point that suggestions forum is full of good content ideas, but this source is not tapped on. 

20 hours ago, Hethwill said:

Start reading from 2014 and take note of everything suggested that is in game or that was tested at any point during development.

...

go check almost everything suggested 

I took my freedom to limit my research to two pages (50 posts) around April/May 2018. I decided not to go too far into the past to have a reasonable reference to the present game status. Nor should I go too close to present time in order to allow for some development time and implementation. Then I checked if the suggestion is actually proposing new content. If yes, I checked if it has been implemented in the game. Here is the result: 

Out of 50 suggestions, I found 22 were proposing new content. 0 suggestions were implemented. 

You may doubt if this sample is representative, but I fail to see "plenty" suggestions being considered. 

Topic	Tag1	Tag2	More Tags	Replies	Views	Last Reply Author	Last Reply Date	Author	Date	Content	Implemented
Move the near clipping plane closer to the camera	camera	unity3d		0	90	The Marinadtor	May 3, 2018	The Marinadtor	May 3, 2018	0
Increase how far we can zoom out				15	307	Macjimm	May 3, 2018	NethrosDefectus	January 16, 2018	0
Problems of NA 1 2 3				50	1,006	Slim McSauce	May 2, 2018	rediii	May 2, 2018	0
Duelroom 1 2 3				62	955	rediii	May 2, 2018	rediii	April 18, 2018	1	0
Naval Officer is a Shipwright 1 2				26	275	Jean Ribault	May 2, 2018	Wind	May 2, 2018	1	0
New fishing event				16	216	Capt Aerobane	May 2, 2018	Bach	May 1, 2018	1	0
When will you finally decide to keep a schedule that will conform to what you say?				11	234	Otto Kohl	May 1, 2018	DesMoines	May 1, 2018	0
Galleon-esque Trade ship recycling existing assets	ships	trade		0	181	Vendetta109	May 1, 2018	Vendetta109	May 1, 2018	1	0
No More Contracts!!!!!!! Make Trading Great Again! 1 2 3				53	700	Wraith	May 1, 2018	Kawazz	April 29, 2018	1	0
Compass Rose				0	122	HamBlower	May 1, 2018	HamBlower	May 1, 2018	0
Perk Reset Permit				12	255	Wraith	May 1, 2018	Gregory Rainsborough	April 30, 2018	0
Friendly Trading List				16	233	Sir Texas Sir	May 1, 2018	Kawazz	April 30, 2018	1	0
Language request: "Nice" edits.				19	444	Sir Texas Sir	May 1, 2018	admin	April 30, 2018	0
Now that chain is limited				24	493	BPHick	30.04.2018	BPHick	April 22, 2018	0
Marks				2	132	Capt Jubal Early	30.04.2018	Shrez	April 30, 2018	0
How to improve trading				2	117	Jean Ribault	29.04.2018	hawkpryde	April 29, 2018	1	0
Go to bed log off 1 2 3 4				84	1,571	VonVolks	29.04.2018	VonVolks	April 26, 2018	0
Please remove the 3 cancellations of combat mission 1 2				42	828	Jean Ribault	29.04.2018	Sento de Benimaclet	April 21, 2018	0
Slayer, Team Slayer, King of the Hill, Capture the Flag.				2	116	Slim McSauce	29.04.2018	Slim McSauce	April 29, 2018	1	0
Open world repair system				6	205	Tiedemann	29.04.2018	Spitfire83	April 29, 2018	0
Good reviews 1 2 3				51	1,141	Le Raf Boom	29.04.2018	Sovereign	April 14, 2018	0
Outlaw Patrol Mission				5	230	Shrez	29.04.2018	HachiRoku	April 28, 2018	1	0
Trade Chat				0	81	Slim McSauce	28.04.2018	Slim McSauce	April 28, 2018	0
National crew voice!				11	296	kapteinsnabeltann	28.04.2018	kapteinsnabeltann	May 29, 2017	0
Bring Ship I.D. back				10	259	Capt Jubal Early	28.04.2018	Guest	April 27, 2018	1	0
on Beverages and Reviving the dead	crew	healing	(and 2 more)	17	267	z4ys	May 9, 2018	Hethwill	May 8, 2018	1	0
PvP rewards for boarding 1 2	boarding	pvp marks		42	688	asuspiciousbear	May 9, 2018	asuspiciousbear	May 7, 2018	0
Adjusting rewards in battle based in real advantage gained	rewards	crew	(and 3 more)	5	182	Rabman	May 9, 2018	vazco	May 8, 2018	0
Ignore	ingame chat	ignore function	(and 2 more)	3	177	Sir Texas Sir	May 8, 2018	Castañon del Rey	May 8, 2018	0
Turn off battle-chat & others.	chat	battle	(and 3 more)	5	195	Hethwill	May 8, 2018	Percival Merewether	May 8, 2018	0
Custom Rank in clan	clan			4	230	Neuville	May 8, 2018	Neuville	May 6, 2018	1	0
Achievements				6	192	Fillip de Travesay	May 8, 2018	Cpt Lynx	May 6, 2018	1	0
Mission limits daily 1 2				40	585	Yellowalien	May 8, 2018	Sir Texas Sir	April 30, 2018	0
Ingame messages - deletion	messages	ingame messages		5	201	John Jacob Astor	May 8, 2018	vazco	May 5, 2018	0
Economy bottleneck solution - Improve Buy / Sell Contract Visibility 1 2	economy	contracts	(and 3 more)	32	573	Fenris	May 7, 2018	John Jacob Astor	May 4, 2018	1	0
Bring Back Outlaw Battles for Every Nation 1 2	outlaw	battles	(and 1 more)	49	647	Bach	May 7, 2018	--Privateer--	May 6, 2018	1	0
Premium ship with congreve rockets	premium	variety	(and 1 more)	9	331	Sovereign	May 6, 2018	Sovereign	May 5, 2018	1	0
Penetration difference 18-24	penetration	18	(and 3 more)	10	253	Shrez	May 6, 2018	rediii	May 4, 2018	0
PBs points for kills 1 2	portbattle	suggestion	(and 3 more)	35	507	Sir Texas Sir	May 6, 2018	rediii	May 4, 2018	0
RVR options 1 2	rvr port battles.			33	471	rediii	May 5, 2018	King of Crowns	May 4, 2018	1	0
RvR Suggestions 1 2 3	rvr	portbattles	(and 5 more)	55	1,036	Tiedemann	May 4, 2018	rediii	April 11, 2018	1	0
A suggestion that suggestions should have feedback 1 2 3 4				80	1,341	Vendetta109	May 4, 2018	Gregory Rainsborough	May 1, 2018	0
Why do not copy successful solution from another MMO's?				8	350	admin	May 4, 2018	Yellowalien	May 3, 2018	1	0
Day-Night cycle in battle instances				10	147	Slim McSauce	May 4, 2018	Wick	May 3, 2018	0
Random Encounters - Ghost ships...	encounter	random	(and 1 more)	5	247	Lovec1990	May 3, 2018	Vendetta109	May 2, 2018	1	0
Pay to Rename				2	164	Liq	May 3, 2018	Wind	May 3, 2018	1	0
Boarding Suggestion	boarding			4	231	Captiva	May 3, 2018	Captiva	April 30, 2018	0
Patrol Zone Changes				22	410	jodgi	May 3, 2018	Christendom	May 1, 2018	0
Player to Player trade without wasting time. A new kind of Contract	trading	suggestion	(and 14 more)	21	361	z4ys	May 3, 2018	z4ys	May 1, 2018	1	0
Perk reset 1 2				26	437	Wick	May 3, 2018	uneasyrider	May 1, 2018	0

[Hethwill, the Red Duke]

i'll tell you 3 without even looking

1 - outposts

2 - production buildings

3 - clan wars ( port ownage )

 

Tell me they aren't in game and that everything is based on sailing and contracts to buy npc produce and trade. 😎

Tell me that a Nation can participate entirely in Conquest... oh wait... clan friends   ( demolished by alt clans if you dig deep enough )

But hey... nope, nothing we suggest has ever been implemented. 

[Zlatkowar]

On 2/23/2019 at 4:52 PM, HachiRoku said:

Community driven content is

proof that somewhere along the line the game failed at being sufficiently entertaining on its own, and that people are getting so desperate that they have to come up with made up content. A weak excuse for absence of content.

[van Veen]

18 minutes ago, Hethwill said:

i'll tell you 3 without even looking

1 - outposts

2 - production buildings

3 - clan wars ( port ownage )

 

Tell me they aren't in game and that everything is based on sailing and contracts to buy npc produce and trade. 😎

Tell me that a Nation can participate entirely in Conquest... oh wait... clan friends   ( demolished by alt clans if you dig deep enough )

But hey... nope, nothing we suggest has ever been implemented. 

Well, ok. "Nothing" might be wrong. I admit that. 

Still I fail to see "plenty". From you short list of 3 suggestions, 2 were implemented 2016 or earlier, 1 in 2017. About 50 suggestions are generated per month, almost half of them propose new content. With 2 suggestions implemented per year, conversion rate is <1%. 

Edit: I correct my first sentence. <1% is "nothing". Any example for 2018?

Edited February 25, 2019 by van Veen

[Hethwill, the Red Duke]

Wow... okay man. You fail to see.  Thanks for being honest.

From 2018 ? Absolutely. Broadside weight, being tested in testbed server right now.

[van Veen]

3 minutes ago, Hethwill said:

Wow... okay man. You fail to see.  Thanks for being honest.

From 2018 ? Absolutely. Broadside weight, being tested in testbed server right now.

Broadside weight I do not consider content, but parameter tweaking (not saying it's not important, but topic here is content). I do not fail to see, but I am hard to convince . 

Can we agree that it could be worth looking into suggestions forum when looking for good content ideas? 

From memory a short list of topics. There have been plenty of suggestions for each, but many of those topics have not been addressed at all, sadly. 

• Nation wars, alliances (abandoned)
• NPC traders and trade routes (never tried)
• Trade missions (abandoned, might return?)
• Random events (various propositions not considered)
• Exploration (not considered)
• Clan factions (not considered)
• Pirate status within nations (not considered)
• Agressive AI (not considered)
• Dynamic towns and town management (not considered)
• Treasure fleets (not considered) 
• Information management, ledger (not considered)
• Raids (abandoned?)
• Player reputation system (not considered)

 

[Hethwill, the Red Duke]

4 minutes ago, van Veen said:

Broadside weight I do not consider content

Wow... 😮

Is as much content as land in battles.

 

Let me tell you another

- Hunt missions ( can be done with pvp combat )

- Search & Destroy missions ( can be done with pvp combat )

- Trade / Delivery missions ( testbed )

I mean...  You are totally focused on wishful thinking and not on what the devs decided to do ( it is their project after all, not ours, we just have good chats with them here in the forum ). But I totally get you. I also have my perfect idea of what NA should be...

[Zlatkowar]

I find it crazy how hard you are advocating in favor of the game and devs. You're quoting stuff that's been there pretty much since 2016 and which has only been tweaked or polished since that period, that's not new content. Broadside weight, again, combat system tweaking, not new content. We could keep arguing on the definition of "content" for ages, it will not bring us anywhere.

What makes me curious is - with so many people coming back, trying out the game to see how it has evolved and leaving because of lack of content - what does it bring to you to keep saying that everything is just fine and that people should not make such a fuss about it? What is the positive thing you personally get out of this?

[van Veen]

 

1 hour ago, Hethwill said:

I also have my perfect idea of what NA should be...

Now you made me curious. Please continue...

Let us indulge in your wishful thinking  

[kitsunelegend]

34 minutes ago, Zlatkowar said:

I find it crazy how hard you are advocating in favor of the game and devs. You're quoting stuff that's been there pretty much since 2016 and which has only been tweaked or polished since that period, that's not new content. Broadside weight, again, combat system tweaking, not new content. We could keep arguing on the definition of "content" for ages, it will not bring us anywhere.

What makes me curious is - with so many people coming back, trying out the game to see how it has evolved and leaving because of lack of content - what does it bring to you to keep saying that everything is just fine and that people should not make such a fuss about it? What is the positive thing you personally get out of this?

 

Hes literally a staff member, which creates a bias in favor of the game and devs. He might have plenty of concerns about the game, but if he says any of them, or says anything negative about the game, he'll most likely lose his position.

 

I would know, because I've been in his position in a different game before. I said something negative about how the game was being handled, and I was promptly shown the door. If the devs are purposely deleting comments from plain users, how do you think they'd handle one of their own mods having something negative to say about them game?

 

Because lets face it... noone in their right mind would have THAT many positive things to say about the game at this stage of development...

[Teutonic]

3 minutes ago, van Veen said:

 

Now you made me curious. Please continue...

Let us indulge in your wishful thinking  

Nah don't. Few would be here to play NA.

 

[kitsunelegend]

Also, I would like to point out, that the game "Tempest" literally has way more content than NA has atm. Sure, its a mobile port with some pretty fugly graphics, but the fact I have more fun in a mobile age of sail game than NA should speak a TON about the current state of the game...