The_S_U_C_C Posted May 24, 2019 Posted May 24, 2019 (edited) The port of Visby on the island of Gotland has for hundreds of years been of vital importance for the Swedish navy and still is, to this very day. Their flag originates from a sigil created around 1280. EDIT: This is the flag of Gotland, not Visby. The flag of Visby is almost identical, but with a red backround.EDIT: The city of Göteborg was originally designed to make sure that the 15km land dividing the Danish lands of Bohuslän, Skåna and Blekinge from their lands in Norway stayed Swedish. The city would however flourish at the start of the 1750's to the end of 1800. Mostly becuse of the East India Company. Becomming the most important port in Scandinavia for trade and still is today. NOTE: The rotation of the lion was not decided until late 1900's, and it was never specificed in the letter, originally mentioning the flag, from 7th May 1737. Edited May 26, 2019 by The_S_U_C_C 2
Aegishjalmur Posted June 27, 2019 Posted June 27, 2019 Greater coat of arms of Denmark and Norway used during 1699–1819. Danmark-Norge should get this one as 100.000 doubloon reward in admiralty. source 1
Seawolf7 Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 (edited) Flags of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta For future reference , hopefully maybe a Mega Update including the Knights of Malta as a faction among other nations like Portugal etc , or just a new Flag DLC including these Maltese flags that could be used under the French or Spanish Navies .The Knights of Malta had strong Links with both nations , actually the Knights bought and managed 4 islands in the Caribbean , Saint Christopher , Saint Martin , Saint Barthelemy and Saint Croix thanks to links with French aristocrats so the French link makes sense , the Knights also had a lot of French nationals in their ranks . Spain had a good relationship with the Order too and many Knights were also of spanish nationality .Back in the Mediterranean It was the King of Spain that gave the island of Malta to the knights and later on the Knights and Maltese corsairs fought side by side with the spaniards in several naval battles. These Maltese flags could hopefully at least be introduced in the game under one of these two nations like Portuguese flags could be introduced under the Spanish Navy. The eight pointed Maltese Cross Flag of the order used by the Grand Masters. Prominent in the Maltese Navy. A Galley flying the Maltese Cross Flags : Model of a Maltese Carrack with the eight pointed cross : The eight points of the cross represent the Eight Languages of the Order of St. John. Moreover, the eight points of the cross also symbolise the obligations and aspirations of the Knights : The Flag and Ensign of the Order of Malta . A white cross on a red background , the cross is in the center of the flag , its the only difference from the flag of Denmark . The Danish flag has an off centered cross : Valletta and the Grand Harbour : Painting showing the Knights of Malta Flag and Ensign used by the fleet : The Flag used by the Knights and Maltese Corsairs , this is the flag of the coat of arms of Grand Master Manuel Pinto de Fonseca , often flown on the stern, together with the Order s flag ensign : = A Maltese Galley with Grand Master Manuel Pinto de Fonseca Flag : It was Common to see the current Grand Master s colours flying on a ship of the order. This is the Flag of Grand Master De l Isle Adam which can be seen flying on the foremast in the painting below : The Pennants of the Order : Pennant with golden image of St. Mary with child, nimbed, standing upon a lying crescent and surrounded by a golden aureole. The flag of Jerusalem to signal Holy Mass was being celebrated on Flagship. This red flag with two white crescents and two golden stars was used to call all surgeons to report on Flagship. Round tailed guidons bearing the Maltese Cross. Man-of-War Battalion , Grand Masters Colours , a white square flag with the coat of arms of the order’s Grandmaster Manuel Pinto de Fonseca (1741-1773) in its centre. The shield is topped by a crown, lined black. Men-of-War Battalion , Orders Colours . a pink square flag with the coat of arms of the Order of St. John in its centre. The shield is topped by a crown, lined black and is superimposing two crossed black anchors. Battalion of the Galleys , Papal Colours , a white square flag with the coat of arms of Pope Clemens XIII (1758-1769) in its centre. Battalion of the Galleys , Order Colours , a white square flag with the coat of arms of the Order of St. John in its centre. The shield is topped by a crown, lined black and is superimposing two crossed bundles of three palm leaves each in natural colour. Flamma Torchina , a plain blue hanging triangular pennant of ratio estimated 1:2. , not a lof of information on this one but according to source: “Al Caleese di Maestro” or “All’ Asta dello’ Stendardo” or “All’ Andriuello” it was a signal pennant for the use of the galley squadron“, Red , Flamma Torchina a ,hanging pennant, vertically divided into red and blue of ratio estimated 1:2. According to Captain General of the galleys Giovanni Battista SPINOLA, 1700 this was used for Galleys .Probably both Fiamma Torchina hanging pennants had been hoisted at the end of the yards of a Galley. Historical Signal Flags of the Knights of Malta . (1) Standard (al Galcese) of the triangle sail / Sign for retreat.(2) Galley (Sensile) standard unfolded at the (Galcese) of the main mast and a longish smoke / Sign for asking help.(3) Flag at the small boat of the main ship; departure one day later; (un tivo di cannone e trinchetto alla cola) departure one hour later.(4) Flamed flag at the (Galcese) of the triangle sail during the "hunt" [i.e. the following] / the galleys which were in front had to (louar Remo) or to lower (?) the sails. (1) Raised in the bows (del Fanale): sign for shooting. In haste [raised] above the helmsman: sign that the other galleys have to follow the main ship.(2) Raised in the bows (del Fanale): sign to "make the middle mast" [prob. to hoist the sail at the middle mast]. In haste [raised] above the helmsman: sign to "make water" [prob. to speed up](3) At the helmsman: raised once: hoist the "Marabutto" [small sail for hard wind]. Twice: the "Marabuttino" [sail which must have been smaller than the Marabutto]. Three times: the "Mezzana" [sail at the middle mast]. Four times: the "Veletta" [=lookout; prob. somebody had to go there]. Five times: the (Treo) go/move at day (G) "Maestra" [prob. main mast] (e non facendosi, de un?). Sign to make the [unreadable](4) In haste above the helmsman: sign to give wine to the rowers. (1) Raised in the bows (del Fanale): sign to hoist the "Marabutto" sail.(2) Raised in the bows (del Fanale): sign to hoist the "Veletta" sail.(3) In haste above the helmsman: sign to take the (Rimburchio) / After the taking of the (Rimburchio), placed again on the same place: sign to leave it.(4) Raised in the bows (del Fanale): sign to go on land, and (maneggiato = fixed?) the triangle sail … the galley (sensile al galcese) of the triangle sail. Sign that the (Gol?) wants to negotiate with the (Padrono Reale Alberata) at the "Antenna" [sort of mast] of the triangle sail. Sign to [unreadable] with (Artigueria) in its (Resto) of the (Pennatto Sagno? Di salueraschi) with the (Moschetteria) (1) Galley (Sensile) standard indicating to the main mast: sign to unfold the sail / Standard shown at the triangle sail: sign to unfold the (sospetta) sail.(2) Galley (Sensile) at the (Penna) of the triangle sail, and then taken to the (Gol?) on the wind (?). [Smoke:] Sign of recognising at day: galley maintaining two smokes.(3) Flamed flag at the (Calcese) of the main ship. Sign for the armament of the crew (sopra coperta). (4) Flamed flag at the (Penna) of the triangle sail. Sign to land (di Fontaria). After the landing placed again: sign of re-embarkment. Galleons , Galleys and frigates of the Knights of Malta in the Grand Harbour. More Flags of the GrandMasters of the order , Most of the time these Flags would be flying on the foremast , near the ensign or as jack. Jean de la Vallete Parisot Antoine de Paule Emmanuel Marie de Rohan-Polduc Alof de Wignacourt Nicolas Cotoner Ferdinand von Hompesch Ramon Perellos y Roccaful Antonio Manoel de Vilhena Martin Garzes, Castellan Louis Mendez de Vasconcelles Didier de St. Jaille Jean Levesque de la Cassiere Claude de la Sengle Hugues de Loubens Verdalle Juan de Omedes Pierino del Ponte The bustling Grand Harbour , looking over from Valletta with the three cities of Vittoriosa , Senglea and Cospicua on the othe side : Edited July 11, 2019 by Seawolf7 1
Hethwill, the Red Duke Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 @Seawolf7 can you provide any links to the books or official archive documents where to find the flags and orders you posted ? Thanks a ton. They are really striking looking and a most important part of the Med. I'm going through some focus on the Med naval and would love to know which books to add to my personal library.
Potemkin Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 (edited) On 4/26/2019 at 7:35 AM, Bulwyf said: While not strictly a naval flag, would love for a variant of this to be able to be flown for the British. The battle flag of the 69th NY volunteer infantry brigade? I 100% approve Edited July 8, 2019 by Potemkin 1
Seawolf7 Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 (edited) Hethwill this is a link to photo copies of a work on the vexillological heritage of Malta , most of the info from my post is from there, down below there are also images : http://internationalcongressesofvexillology-proceedingsandreports.yolasite.com/resources/17th/Strickland-VexillologicalHeritageOfTheKnightsOfStJohnInMalta.pdf These are other links for various info related to my post : https://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/smom~sig.html https://fotw.info/flags/smom~.html https://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/smom^.html#mowb http://www.vassallomalta.com/Grandmasters/GM2/GM.htm I live in Malta ,this place is living history , i suggest you read the sword and the scimitar by david bell , there are a lot of books also about the siege of Malta and the Knights and Maltese corsairs , try finding also In the Name of the Prince by Liam Gauci , i knew all the Grandmasters flags already , have been seeing them around the island all my life and yes they are beautiful , you can see them around the maltese towns and villages to this day because each particular town has a connection with some grandmaster or another., pitty i couldnt find a couple of them online , but the most popular Grandmasters flags are there. Also the flag of the order ensign and the eight pointed cross are common sight in Malta . I just posted today in the suggestions part of the forum about the Knights of Malta : Edited July 11, 2019 by Seawolf7
Nominoe Posted July 8, 2019 Posted July 8, 2019 Hello, Black cross flag of the Brittany fleet from the 16th to the 18th century. This flag was soon adopted by the main Brittany harbors (Brest, Guérande, Nantes, Saint-Malo), as is or with certain particular variants.
admin Posted July 25, 2019 Author Posted July 25, 2019 we have some art resources available for a week. Lets revive this topic on new flags. Is there are any awesome flags we missed and could add to current in game nations (or flags of their allies)? 4
Slim McSauce Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) A possible merchant flag for the US Also the sons of liberty flag Edited July 25, 2019 by Slim McSauce 2
van der Clam Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) @admin will we ever have the option for Clan Flags? Meaning, say the Clan Creator can select 1 of a bunch of icons that will show up on any flag we choose to fly? Like something in the upper left or bottom left corner? Maybe a National Crown, or King's Crest or Crown, or a Prince's Crest or Crown? Or maybe we could have a mini-flag selected as the Clan Flag that would fly on all main masts, instead of random signaling flags? Same size, but selectable by the Clan Leader? This would be easier coding. Edited July 25, 2019 by van der Clam
VirtuallyIdiotic Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) If clan flags were another dlc I would surely buy it. And anything considered offensive should obviously be under tribunal. @admin Edited July 25, 2019 by Davos Seasworth 3
Sir Texas Sir Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 10 hours ago, Isa ad Din said: Betsy Ross flag It's in game for 50K doubloons. Which I still think any of the Admirality store flags should be part of the DLC too. Than just have other flags drop like paints do or something. 2
Slim McSauce Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Sir Texas Sir said: It's in game for 50K doubloons. Which I still think any of the Admirality store flags should be part of the DLC too. Than just have other flags drop like paints do or something. Really I think this is the one flag that doesn't deserve to be under exclusively doubloons. US doesn't have many interesting flags unfortunately. We're granted a very nice flag from the start but our options are limited to something that isn't meme-inducing and actually sort of strikes pride and confidence. We've got 2 snakie boi flags, a british navy ensign, a revenue service flag which is alright but I would prefer the more regular looking merchant flag and sons of liberty flag too, both flat lines which poses a bit more impact than flags that have lettering and small designs that need to be looked at up close to really get the message. I'm pretty sure the other nations have more flags too. Edited July 26, 2019 by Slim McSauce
Aegishjalmur Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 On 6/27/2019 at 5:08 PM, Aegishjalmur said: Greater coat of arms of Denmark and Norway used during 1699–1819. Danmark-Norge should get this one as 100.000 doubloon reward in admiralty. @admin This would make a great and historically accurate flag.
Georg Fromm Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) For Prussia: Royaume de Westphalie (damn French collaborators, founded 1807), Member of Confederation of Rhine (founded 1806). Access to the Baltic Sea via Mecklenburg.... Edited July 26, 2019 by Georg Fromm 2
LeBoiteux Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 45 minutes ago, Georg Fromm said: For Prussia: Royaume de Westphalie (damn French collaborators, founded 1807), Member of Confederation of Rhine (founded 1806). Access to the Baltic Sea via Mecklenburg.... Not for Prussia, but for France as it was an ally of the French Empire, headed by Jérôme Bonaparte, Napoleon's young brother. 😀
Georg Fromm Posted July 28, 2019 Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) Maybe another flag for Prussia: Duchy of Pommern, Prussian province, (This includes the port city of Kołberg, which the French 1807 could not conquer despite enormous superiority) Edited July 28, 2019 by Georg Fromm 4
van der Clam Posted July 28, 2019 Posted July 28, 2019 On 7/26/2019 at 12:27 AM, Sir Texas Sir said: It's in game for 50K doubloons. Which I still think any of the Admirality store flags should be part of the DLC too. Than just have other flags drop like paints do or something. OOOHHH SHIP! I love the idea of RNG flag drops...but make them one time use only. Like we could set 1 flag on only 1 ship and once that flag sinks with the ship then it's gone...like upgrades. Noice! 1
Sir Texas Sir Posted July 28, 2019 Posted July 28, 2019 59 minutes ago, van der Clam said: OOOHHH SHIP! I love the idea of RNG flag drops...but make them one time use only. Like we could set 1 flag on only 1 ship and once that flag sinks with the ship then it's gone...like upgrades. Noice! Just like paints pretty much, but this would mean a change in the game system. I still wish we could see the flags in OW too, not just battles. 1
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