Patch 27 - Port Interface, New missions, Streamlined economy, Insurance, New currencies.

[Njord]

48 minutes ago, van der Decken said:

Does anything look f'd up to anyone else?

I think it is fairly random, which I would be fine with but the rewards seem to be rather low, especially the chests. I don't find any missions with silver or gold chest reward anymore and the only gold chest quest I completed gave me a boarding mod that was already nerfed. Needless to say I won't bother with those missions until wipe / release, when they hopefully will be worth doing.

[Beeekonda]

Whats the status on Connie Classic and Diana? Available for crafting soon™?

[Malcolm3]

1 hour ago, van der Decken said:

Does anything look f'd up to anyone else?

That's different missions

1. You have to sink 11 ships of the 3rd rate (3rd rate, Wasa, Bellona) in OW

2/ You have to sink specifically 3rd rates in OW

[Hethwill, the Red Duke]

2 hours ago, Malcolm3 said:

That's different missions

1. You have to sink 11 ships of the 3rd rate (3rd rate, Wasa, Bellona) in OW

2/ You have to sink specifically 3rd rates in OW

Yep. Correct.

3rd rate =/= 3rd Rate ( name of ship )

Guess chaging the name for the "3rd Rate" could help @admin

[LeBoiteux]

2 minutes ago, Hethwill the Red Duke said:

Guess chaging the name for the "3rd Rate" could help @admin

'74-gun Ship' ?

[Hethwill, the Red Duke]

8 minutes ago, LeBoiteux said:

'74-gun Ship' ?

Witty  . Any Bellona sister ship that could be used ?

 

[LeBoiteux]

8 minutes ago, Hethwill the Red Duke said:

Any Bellona sister ship that could be used ?

I didn't know the '3rd Rate' was based on the Bellona. Using the name of a sister ship is a good idea. 

Edited December 9, 2018 by LeBoiteux

[Grundgemunkey]

34 minutes ago, LeBoiteux said:

I didn't know the '3rd Rate' was based on the Bellona. Using the name of a sister ship is a good idea. 

the Bellona was a one off ... but her basic design was copied for several other classes of third rate ... would be interested if the in game third rate is actually based on a particular ship or just made up

[LeBoiteux]

@Grundgemunkey Isn't there a Bellona class ?

Edited December 9, 2018 by LeBoiteux

[van der Clam]

Much appreciated on the responses. My eyesight must be fading and did not notice the capital "R".

[admin]

Hotfix was deployed today. 

• NPC Combat ships will carry more crew pay from time to time.
• Trading NPCs will carry trading profits in form of doubloons more often.

[staun]

10 hours ago, admin said:

Hotfix was deployed today. 

• NPC Combat ships will carry more crew pay from time to time.
• Trading NPCs will carry trading profits in form of doubloons more often.

Why make that change. As you already have said, there is enough Dbl in the game. You also can hear it from plenty of players. Many have more than 100.000. By turning up the amount of Dbl, you just again makes 4-1 rate cheap again. Wasen't part of the goal of patch 27 to make big ships rare in OW. Getting us to sail 7-5 rates.

[Draymoor]

20 minutes ago, staun said:

Why make that change. As you already have said, there is enough Dbl in the game. You also can hear it from plenty of players. Many have more than 100.000. By turning up the amount of Dbl, you just again makes 4-1 rate cheap again. Wasen't part of the goal of patch 27 to make big ships rare in OW. Getting us to sail 7-5 rates.

100k doubloons in how many weeks...? By the top players... while no port battles are taking place... 

[Draymoor]

10 hours ago, admin said:

Hotfix was deployed today. 

• NPC Combat ships will carry more crew pay from time to time.
• Trading NPCs will carry trading profits in form of doubloons more often.

The change is welcome, thank you @admin.

[staun]

1 hour ago, Draymoor said:

100k doubloons in how many weeks...? By the top players... whilehip no port battles are taking place... 

Don't get me wrong, i have like 6 k dbl. but lets not give up un the more expensive ships yeth. I do actually like the idea that you in RvR can overstrech and run out of ships. 

[Draymoor]

16 minutes ago, staun said:

Don't get me wrong, i have like 6 k dbl. but lets not give up un the more expensive ships yeth. I do actually like the idea that you in RvR can overstrech and run out of ships. 

Would be interesting to know how many 1st rates have actually been crafted since the eco patch. Most of the ones sailing around now I'd be willing to bet are from before the patch. Currently doubloons value is at around 200 reals. That puts 1st rates at around 2 million reals, already putting them out of the reach of most casual players. I think they are even too rare now considering the mechanics of PBs. 

[Barbancourt]

13 hours ago, admin said:

Hotfix was deployed today. 

• NPC Combat ships will carry more crew pay from time to time.
• Trading NPCs will carry trading profits in form of doubloons more often.

Do these rich trading NPCs now come in fleets with proper warship escorts to keep them from being easy loot pinatas? 

 

[staun]

7 hours ago, Draymoor said:

Would be interesting to know how many 1st rates have actually been crafted since the eco patch. Most of the ones sailing around now I'd be willing to bet are from before the patch. Currently doubloons value is at around 200 reals. That puts 1st rates at around 2 million reals, already putting them out of the reach of most casual players. I think they are even too rare now considering the mechanics of PBs. 

My guess alot of them. A first rate is not out of reach for the casuals. It just take longer time to get one. But even a casual can in a week get dbl enough. They just buy 2 store ships each day and go the the patrol zone. Should give them enough. Takes I would guess an hour a day. Cost my guess around 150.000 Reals.

And just before I am accused to be for the hardcore direction. Patch 27 more ore less killed my of. But they can’t not switch fort and back all the time. They need to have a clear direction. So they went hardcore and should stick to it.

Edited December 12, 2018 by staun

[AeRoTR]

Casuals and 1st rates, I do not think so. If it was built, it is just sitting at the docks. 

If he is gonna spend 9000 db. the ship won't be a sabicu/sabicu I guess, and put that big guns on. Do not forget the level 3 shipyard. 

So what is the real cost of a 1st rate? 

I think 4th-1st doubloon price needs to be halved. 

[admin]

10 hours ago, staun said:

Why make that change. As you already have said, there is enough Dbl in the game. You also can hear it from plenty of players. Many have more than 100.000. 

Their hoarding is irrelevant for the majority. If there is enough doubloons why prices went up to 250 300?  People having too much should sell doubloons they don't need then.

We expect the prices for doubloons to stabilize around 20-50 reals or maybe even lower. We will continue monitoring real supply and doubloon price and adjust trading profits and doubloons availability if needed. 

[admin]

22 minutes ago, AeRoTR said:

Do not forget the level 3 shipyard. 

 

How is it relevant? You don't build shipyard every time you need a first rate. Ford mustang plant costs 1-2 bln dollars, yet the car is 25000

[Sir Texas Sir]

9 minutes ago, admin said:

How is it relevant? You build shipyard every time you need a first rate? Explain please. Ford mustang plant costs 1-2 bln dollars, yet the car is 25000

It’s 6k for the level 3 but the problem I know in the past is a lot of folks don’t want to depend on a clan to build so they make there own.  Some clans have more than one.  I currently have 3 level but one I can dump.  3 level 2 but only one I’m realy using to get my last char crafting up to 50.  I do t see a problem with the shipyard price as you realy only need the level 2 and Thant just 1k doubloons.  Which isn’t hard to get.  Not every one has to build first rates and with it costing more gives more reason to have just a few guys specialize in them and that it.

 

can we get it where we can convert VM to doubloons.  We can buy VM with doubloons which isn’t far for the RvR guys that they can’t be converted back. That or don’t allow folks to buy them so they would be a market for them.  Right now there realy isn’t a market for VM.

Edited December 12, 2018 by Sir Texas Sir

[staun]

11 minutes ago, admin said:

Their hoarding is irrelevant for the majority. If there is enough doubloons why prices went up to 250 300?  People having too much should sell doubloons they don't need then.

We expect the prices for doubloons to stabilize around 20-50 reals or maybe even lower. We will continue monitoring real supply and doubloon price and adjust trading profits and doubloons availability if needed. 

But isent that somewhat ruining the idea that Sol should be expensive an rearly used. As it it is now ppl with about 7-10 hours play a week can make enough dbl to craft a 1 rate a week. What doo you think is the right time span?

[Guest]

23 minutes ago, staun said:

But isent that somewhat ruining the idea that Sol should be expensive an rearly used. As it it is now ppl with about 7-10 hours play a week can make enough dbl to craft a 1 rate a week. What doo you think is the right time span?

people rather use 1st and 2nd rates in pbs because of thickness meta, so there is no point going with 3x 3rd rates with 32 and 18pd for 900br then 2x bucentaures for 920 br where you have 42 and 24pd guns

Edited December 12, 2018 by Guest

[staun]

12 minutes ago, Wyy said:

people rather use 1st and 2nd rates in pbs because of thickness meta, so there is no point going with 3x 3rd rates with 32 and 18pd for 900br then 2x bucentaures for 920 br where you have 42 and 24pd guns

That I get. I never was one of those talking about should be expensive. But the general concent from players it would make a better game, so lets stick to it. Thats all I advocate for.