Patch 27 - Port Interface, New missions, Streamlined economy, Insurance, New currencies.

[Daguse]

Ok, I have to say things look good. May have to get back into it. 

[Jean Ribault]

34 minutes ago, JG14_Cuzn said:

Think it was just for lvl 3 shipyards. 

No, if you find the quote all buildings were promised compensation, not sure what the form was in though.

[Angus MacDuff]

1 minute ago, Jean Ribault said:

No, if you find the quote all buildings were promised compensation, not sure what the form was in though.

Only Lvl 3 shipyards are compensated in Doubloons.  The rest is Reals, straight to your wallet

[Vibrio Cholerae]

3 hours ago, admin said:

I think you are exaggerating. And after it happens once they might add a combat ship to a fleet or actually try to fight - 4 indiamans is how many guns? Bots have unlimited chain i have heard. 

In the french nation a guy got jump by 3 hercules when he was trading with his 4 india.

they tag him kill him (1), after that they jump out of the battle => he respawn in OW , they the did the same thing to his 3 other indiaman....

I really think that you need to re-work this system of the base of players who do some trading will tarish.

[Jean Ribault]

Just now, Angus MacDuff said:

Only Lvl 3 shipyards are compensated in Doubloons.  The rest is Reals, straight to your wallet

Reals, thank you.  I was looking for the quote but this is 25 pages long ATM. 

[AeRoTR]

@admin what are the fixed pvp rewards for sinking a ship? Is the only factor the ship rate, just like before ?

Can you give more rewards for sinking top 10 players of pvp leaderboard  ?

[Demsity]

A suggestion for the teleport fee.

The price could be based on range.

Within a certain area it is free (for crafting and resource gathering)

It would save alot of time when crafting becouse most basic resource ports are kinda close and it would be beyond annoying having to sail/pay for that.

[Hethwill, the Red Duke]

Is based on Rank. Rear Admirals are rich ... Captains are sightly less...

[Sir Texas Sir]

10 hours ago, Lovec1990 said:

Thanks so is there any plan on making Santa Cecilia craftable she is so nice looking i would use her as raiding ship but she is so rare and expensive?

I was hoping it was going to be the third DLC ship they talked about.  Still wonder which ship they had planed for such and hope they still do plan a bigger 4/5th rate ship for such.

10 hours ago, admin said:

paint chest can now drop in epic events chests (rarely)

I think the API shows it drops in deadman chest too so the sunken treasure fleets.  Would be nice if they where added to more loot tables or even some added to the Admiralty shop.  Give us something to spend VM's on other than ship permits. I would pay a good bit of marks for Paint chest if I don't need to replace any SOL"s as they stack up.  

8 hours ago, RKY said:

however it kills traders.

they will be tagged, retagged, reretagged and rereretagged.

Learn to fight back....the other day I lost two trader brigs cause the guy had two snows in fleet, but I escaped with my main Trader brig cause I demasted his Herc.  Yes he was a pretty piss poor player, but than again I'm not a noob either.  once I snapped that mast I took off running at full sails and he couldn't catch me even fully loaded.

Now I do think the after battle needs a longer invisibility than it does now for those that escape.  That would solve some of the retagging insues.  Like some one metion the guy with 4 Indiamans vs 3 Hercs.  3 of those ships should of never made it out of that battle.  Now though with the new system keeping that cargo and those ships woul be more profitable than just skuttling them and retagging.

7 hours ago, admin said:

I think you are exaggerating. And after it happens once they might add a combat ship to a fleet or actually try to fight - 4 indiamans is how many guns? Bots have unlimited chain i have heard. 
 

People still not putting guns on ships.  While if he was against 3 decent players they should tear him up, but if he put all vs one and focus on that one I bet he could send them packing or take down one or two if he tried.  If I can demast a herc with a 6 lbr on a trader brig you can surely do the same with 18's on an Indiaman.

4 hours ago, CanorJax said:

In the french nation a guy got jump by 3 hercules when he was trading with his 4 india.

they tag him kill him (1), after that they jump out of the battle => he respawn in OW , they the did the same thing to his 3 other indiaman....

I really think that you need to re-work this system of the base of players who do some trading will tarish.

Longer invisibility after battle would be the only thing to do, but if he had 4 India's with guns he should of torn up those ships pretty bad to help with the escape.  He didn't fight with his AI it seems an just died.

1 hour ago, Hethwill the Red Duke said:

Is based on Rank. Rear Admirals are rich ... Captains are sightly less...

I still think Capitals should always be free to let folks make it back home if they are broke, without a ship (cause they got sunk) and far from home.  Maybe add in clan owned ports too for clans.  I also think any clan owned ports should get the Doubloons from teleports in that port (lets say only out going) and they should get part of the crafting Doubloons.  Thus giving clans a means to get Doubloons other than just through combat.   They can than give them to players that deserve them or even new players to help out.

[Hethwill, the Red Duke]

Encouragement to sail, to chase, to escape, to do all the cool things of NA and chase that nice shiny gold that may well be hidden inside some enemy ship hold.

The exploration of what is out there. No sir... never ever free.

That's my take on it. And no, no, nwecomers not going to teleport 20 times... ever... they going to have to sail and get into a lot of trouble before they have the outpost even setup.

Sorry to meta talk here but...A alt low rank is not a newcomer.

[Sir Texas Sir]

20 minutes ago, Hethwill the Red Duke said:

Encouragement to sail, to chase, to escape, to do all the cool things of NA and chase that nice shiny gold that may well be hidden inside some enemy ship hold.

The exploration of what is out there. No sir... never ever free.

That's my take on it. And no, no, nwecomers not going to teleport 20 times... ever... they going to have to sail and get into a lot of trouble before they have the outpost even setup.

Sorry to meta talk here but...A alt low rank is not a newcomer.

Oh I'm sure you know what newcomers will do, Capital is not an important port, but until you actually have a clan that is filled with Newbews and casuals you realy can't say what is fun for all or what others want.  You need to look at the whole picture of the game.  While your play style is great for you, not every one is going to want that style of life.  We need to think of things that encourage them to enjoy the game and stay.  Being stuck, away from the capital cause your out of Doubloons is not something a new player needs to deal with.

Oh still have yet to get Doubloons to drop in any mission or OW ship I have sunk...>RNG SUCKS<   

[jodgi]

Should these 4 Indiaman dudes be saved from themselves?

[Barbancourt]

27 minutes ago, jodgi said:

Should these 4 Indiaman dudes be saved from themselves?

Let 'em have their fun.  (particularly if they're going to use all their perks and money to do it) 

Edited November 7, 2018 by Barbancourt

[Hethwill, the Red Duke]

@Sir Texas Sir

That's exactly the point. Letting the newcomers find their place and their style by exploring all possibilities.

They will be able to have dubloons, same as everyone else, in the open world and they will have no issues with teleporting back to their capital and then back to their first outpost with ease, given their rank allows it for a small fee.

They are not mindless brutes that must do things the "correct" way as I do, or as you see or as any individual opinion dictates.

As we all did, they will learn and become pros and have fun in the present design.

Second, you know nothing about me or anyone else lending a hand to newcomers. You do it, we do it, everyone does it, problem is... there's not a right way to have fun. So meta'ing a newcomer from the start is "horrible". Teaching him how things can be used and let them decide and explore the game is so much better... even if our group ends in failure along them, and to this day still laugh about it. 

 

[Lovec1990]

5 hours ago, Sir Texas Sir said:

I was hoping it was going to be the third DLC ship they talked about.  Still wonder which ship they had planed for such and hope they still do plan a bigger 4/5th rate ship for such.

Your not only one hoping

 

[Njord]

7 hours ago, Sir Texas Sir said:

I was hoping it was going to be the third DLC ship they talked about.  Still wonder which ship they had planed for such and hope they still do plan a bigger 4/5th rate ship for such.

Anything bigger than 5th rate as DLC ship is pretty much out of the question at this point, if they stick to their concept of 4th rates and above costing doubloons coupled with the rarity of woods for crafting and the higher LH costs. Having a big boat without doubloon or other crafting cost, redeemable at will in any woods would be much more pay2win than Herc or Requin could ever hope to be...

I strongly believe small 5th rates like the Hercules should be the biggest DLC ships available, even more so with the much more costly crafting now...

[Lovec1990]

48 minutes ago, Sovereign said:

Anything bigger than 5th rate as DLC ship is pretty much out of the question at this point, if they stick to their concept of 4th rates and above costing doubloons coupled with the rarity of woods for crafting and the higher LH costs. Having a big boat without doubloon or other crafting cost, redeemable at will in any woods would be much more pay2win than Herc or Requin could ever hope to be...

I strongly believe small 5th rates like the Hercules should be the biggest DLC ships available, even more so with the much more costly crafting now...

While i agree in no 4 rates or above DLC ships for 5th rate DLC i disagree a 12pd frigate like Santa Cecilia would be very nice becouse she looks nice, behaves like normal frigates and you can capture better frigates in OW.

[Sir Texas Sir]

30 minutes ago, Lovec1990 said:

While i agree in no 4 rates or above DLC ships for 5th rate DLC i disagree a 12pd frigate like Santa Cecilia would be very nice becouse she looks nice, behaves like normal frigates and you can capture better frigates in OW.

I agree too and since we have other 12 lb frigates in game it has a match.  The Herc and Req have no in game equivalent though so they should never be allowed in shallow port battles being shallow water 5th rates by game standards.

since it’s now a 5th rate a refit of the Indianman would be nice the only way I could see a 4th rate would be a bigger trade ship.  

[Njord]

41 minutes ago, Lovec1990 said:

While i agree in no 4 rates or above DLC ships for 5th rate DLC i disagree a 12pd frigate like Santa Cecilia would be very nice becouse she looks nice, behaves like normal frigates and you can capture better frigates in OW.

The Santa Cecilia is a small frigate and very similar to the broadside weight of the Hercules ( 192 vs 228 ) with the Hercules being able to even mount 18pd guns, albeit only a few. So I don't see where you disagree..

1 hour ago, Sovereign said:

I strongly believe small 5th rates like the Hercules should be the biggest DLC ships available

SC = small 5th rate . . .

Edited November 7, 2018 by Sovereign

[Lovec1990]

3 minutes ago, Sovereign said:

The Santa Cecilia is a small frigate and very similar to the broadside weight of the Hercules ( 192 vs 228 ) with the Hercules being able to even mount 18pd guns, albeit only a few. So I don't see where you disagree..

Santa is still bigger than herc this is where i disagree, but despite being bigger she does behave like normal frigate so even Frigate can beat her

[Poryv]

last hotfix wiped ressources inside of my trader ship, i was currently in open world.

i dont want any compensation. just want to give a warning, because its so annoying.

captains beware and brace for the next hotfix

[SnovaZdorowa]

2 minutes ago, Poryv said:

last hotfix wiped ressources inside of my trader ship, i was currently in open world.

im OS, 3 traders in the fleet, all ok

[Poryv]

very strange

propably i just some stupid mistakes, maybe

[admin]

14 minutes ago, Poryv said:

very strange

propably i just some stupid mistakes, maybe

What is the nick name of the player on the server and what ships you had in a fleet? Hotfix only removed ability to capture first rates using fleets. Should not have affected you.. Maybe you need to relog or port and info on goods will update in your holds.

[CdrNexoe]

21 hours ago, Jean Ribault said:

No, if you find the quote all buildings were promised compensation, not sure what the form was in though.

And.. The Shipyard WAS Lvl3 !