Patch 27 - Port Interface, New missions, Streamlined economy, Insurance, New currencies.

[Tomasso il Fortunato]

9 minutes ago, Grundgemunkey said:

seems your somewhere betwen denial and anger

Yeah , we have just to spend more time with the new update , but one think is clear , we have missing parts .

Edited November 1, 2018 by CaptainSparkles

[Mr Pellew]

Just now, Intrepido said:

Grind doubloons mate in PVE.

It is the new way of playing.

 

I farmed 5k doublons in PvP yesterday all with solo hunting. Yes I lost a 3rd rate doing it and didn't know how expansice it would be. but sink 10 ppl in 5th rates and you got the money for a new bellona. Sink 3 1st/2nd rates and you have the same. Doubloons drop in huge quantities in the hold of ships so don't forget to loot!

[Manbot]

8 minutes ago, Lovec1990 said:

I disagree cost is still to low 1st rate should be very rare ship while 3rd rates should me most common SOLs

if a SOL cos 3000 to 4000 doubloon it still would be mighty rare to see- point is their no way to gain doubloons beside Ai attacking and missions and from wat ive seen max u can gain is around 1000 ( if your lucky)- thats alot of grinding to get a SOL- give me other ways to earn doubloons or make them at a high but not impossible price. also as grundge said if i am to sell a leocean in reals how much should i sell it for? 

[Grundgemunkey]

its not so long ago we were stressing over losing gold marines and gold powder monkeys  ....and losing 5 dura ships ... its only change

 

[Manbot]

Just now, Grundgemunkey said:

its not so long ago we were stressing over losing gold marines and gold powder monkeys  ....and losing 5 dura ships ... its only change

 

+1

[Mr Pellew]

1 minute ago, Manbot said:

if a SOL cos 3000 to 4000 doubloon it still would be mighty rare to see- point is their no way to gain doubloons beside Ai attacking and missions and from wat ive seen max u can gain is around 1000 ( if your lucky)- thats alot of grinding to get a SOL- give me other ways to earn doubloons or make them at a high but not impossible price. also as grundge said if i am to sell a leocean in reals how much should i sell it for? 

Don't forget about PvP rewards. you only get very small ammount for the kill but there are doubloons in the hold. Loot them. I got between 250 and 450 for sinking a herc and up to 1450 for a Buc. PvPing (even if ganksquads are super encouraged imo) is worth your time now

[Mr Pellew]

Just now, Intrepido said:

You won the same you end losing.

You are a pvp player but not everyone have the time or the skill.

Is good to force those into endless pve farming? 

Yes I lost them but 1st of all becuase I wanted to test insurance and jumped into a gank fleet so entirely my own fault. 

Yeah it takes time now. Big ships are worth a lot. That's how it is. Either grinf PvE or do a lot of PvP for it. No easy fast way to get them. ANd as admin said. give it a few weeks maybe a month and I think not the doubloons will be the problem but other things (vic marks and labor hrs come to mind after some testing/research)

Is it good for the game to everyone to allways sail 1st rates?

[greybuscat]

1 hour ago, Cmdr RideZ said:

I can now earn 2000 PvP marks in 15 minutes, omg!

 

I can get hundreds of millions of dollars in a single night by buying a lottery ticket with the right numbers on it, but it isn't reasonable to expect that to happen.

Based on an admittedly very limited amount of testing, a solid hour of AI hunting seems more likely to lead to a few hundred dollary-doos or less, depending on your luck, than 8000. Much like copper plating, very large payouts do indeed exist, but they are the exception, not the norm.

PvP hunting will yield more consistent results, from what I understand, but reliably sinking a half dozen players is easier said than done, at least for us mere mortals.

[admin]

hot fix deployed - main post updated.

[Mr Pellew]

4 minutes ago, Intrepido said:

I have been playing for a while, and I havent seen people hunting in first rates, trading in first rates, fishing in first rates, sailing to distant outposts in first rates...

It is good to make ships affordable because the consequence is very easy to understand. Only those who have the TIME or the SKILL will able to afford lineships. So the more casual playerbase will end leaving. 

No sheeps, no wolves. It is about time we figure out this fact.

We went to enemy safezones in 1st rates on a regular bases and got home with a load of marks. Yes ofc but the fact is everyone had one and they were easy to get so no "end goal" for people and no matter if you lost them. Our clan lost about 40 last week and we didn't care becuase they were that easy to replace.

5th rates are affordable. Bigger ships are "premium". Casuals can get them after a while. Yes it takes longer but in other games people are willing to grind hundrets of hrs for equimpment as well. I highly doupt that this change will lead to many players leaving.

It's a fact and everyone knows that. TBH with the current system sheep have a better time imo. Safezone ganking is a lot less usefull now. Bellona gank squads are rare so if you get caught in a mission while sailing a big ship you should be pretty safe.On top of that I am pretty sure PvE is the faster way to get big ships but PvP is also a valid way. Maybe I'm wrong here but the only way to find out is wait.

[Mr Pellew]

@admin Is it intended that you can capture AI 1st rates in missions? Becuase it is possible at the moment.

[Ellias]

8 minutes ago, Intrepido said:

No sheeps, no wolves. It is about time we figure out this fact.

It is more complex than this. Everyone is sheep or wolf depending on where and when he is. Balance can be adjusted by making PvE more profitable.

Criers will always cry; of not having better ship, enemy player is cheating in his small ship ect. I do not understand the need to counter gank fast ships by jumping on Lotions though.

[Suricato Rojo]

13 minutes ago, Mr Pellew said:

@admin Is it intended that you can capture AI 1st rates in missions? Becuase it is possible at the moment.

You mean capture it and keep it once the mission is over?

[William Livingston Alden]

"current buildings were closed and wiped for all players (costs to reopen was added to redeemables) "

Sorry, but I got nothing. only the 2k doublons as a reedem.

Will this be fixed somehow?

[Kilo60]

9 minutes ago, William Livingston Alden said:

"current buildings were closed and wiped for all players (costs to reopen was added to redeemables) "

Sorry, but I got nothing. only the 2k doublons as a reedem.

Will this be fixed somehow?

Ditto!!!

[Mr Pellew]

40 minutes ago, Suricato Rojo said:

You mean capture it and keep it once the mission is over?

yup exactly that

[admin]

3 hours ago, Mr Pellew said:

@admin Is it intended that you can capture AI 1st rates in missions? Becuase it is possible at the moment.

You should be able to capture the ship in the instance.. but you cannot take it out of the instance to OW (it will be taken over by admiralty with hold)
can you confirm you were able to sail it to port? Can you provide the screen of the vessel?  And final question. are you on the pvp server?

[Manbot]

can someone please explain this? 2 exactly same fleet 1st battle no kills only assists 74 000 reals 2nd battle 2 kills 1 assist 22 000 Real...?

[Vernon Merrill]

2 hours ago, Mr Pellew said:

I farmed 5k doublons in PvP yesterday all with solo hunting. Yes I lost a 3rd rate doing it and didn't know how expansice it would be. but sink 10 ppl in 5th rates and you got the money for a new bellona. Sink 3 1st/2nd rates and you have the same. Doubloons drop in huge quantities in the hold of ships so don't forget to loot!

Man....  you had way better luck than I did pvp’ing yesterday.  I killed 3 players (Surprise, Indiaman, Prince) and ended up with 91 doubloons.  

Womp womp. 

[Guest]

There is certainly more people in the overworld. With 500 people online I cant sail 100km without running into a pvp opportunity. 

However this may not hold up with the inevitable 200 players online we will have in a few short weeks.

[admin]

1 hour ago, Manbot said:

can someone please explain this? 2 exactly same fleet 1st battle no kills only assists 74 000 reals 2nd battle 2 kills 1 assist 22 000 Real...?

bug.. will be fixed
assists give too much gold. 
 

[Sento de Benimaclet]

5 minutes ago, admin said:

assists give too much gold. 

Too much gold where, in this game? hahahaahah.  Have not they realized that to get money to be able to make boats for PvP, you have to trade more or do more PvE missions? Other than paying to go from one outpost to another or those huge prices for a tow request. Help people to do PvP, do not put more obstacles with each update. Please.

[Capn Rocko]

4 minutes ago, Coraline Vodka said:

Nope, two empty traders

in your screen shots you hadn't clicked "sink ship" (a very important step). I tried  

[Angus MacDuff]

5 minutes ago, Coraline Vodka said:

Nope, two empty traders

Yeah, I've had a few empty ones as well.  I killed 6 traders last night and only one had Doubloons.

[admin]

48 minutes ago, Capn Rocko said:

in your screen shots you hadn't clicked "sink ship" (a very important step). I tried  

NPC ships do not require to be sank to get full loot. You can board and take all hold with you (switching to their vessel). 
For player ships its different. Ship must be sank to get extra rewards.