Patch 27 - New Economy feedback.

[admin]

Moderated discussion - all off topic will be removed.

 

Captains

Please provide your feedback on crafting and trading, new currencies, loot drops from traders and combat ships and general monetary balance and inflation.

[Elric]

10 Doubloons (pvp marks) for each TP.   You are killing trading - and forcing players into hours of extra boring sailing.

[admin]

1 minute ago, Elric said:

10 Doubloons (pvp marks) for each TP.   You are killing trading - and forcing players into hours of extra boring sailing.

it will stabilize once you understand that doubloons are not pvp marks and you can get them by multiple means. 

pvp marks and combat marks are abandoned as a concept.

 

[Rusty Cannon]

No Compensation for my Buildings, or did they get added to the Reals???

[Tom Farseer]

Quick naive estimate (haven't had the time to test all of it myself):

If I read it correctly one kill mission get's at best 80 dubloons reward. Assuming one would take about an hour per mission that would mean one would have to grind 115 hours to get a single permit for L'Ocean (9k dubloons).

Is that time frame intended? Am I missing something? Again this is a naive estimate, not a fully informed and exact calculation.
If so I guess 1st rates will become as rare now as they where in history.

Edited October 31, 2018 by Tom Farseer

[Elric]

50 doubloons to make a single copper plating mod - yet carta refit requires none.

[fremen]

I cannot see the compensation for our shipyard/mines...

[Aster]

I think pvp reward only ships will be completely unused now. 3000 doubloons for a Hermione is way to much and there is no way to build the ship normally.

[Schwabbel]

Cool ...

- Building^s gone
- PVP-Mark value only 1/40
- long annoying travels to manage the trading-outposts

now I know why the developers haven't published the new economy at the testservers. We were all gone before the update

[Schwabbel]

Has anybody seen the Christian, which was annonced as testing reward ?

[Angus MacDuff]

@Borch just captured a AI TBrig with over 900 Doubloons in the hold.

Edited October 31, 2018 by Angus MacDuff

[Raf Van Boom]

PvP rewards, ship notes specifically, seem very expensive. And like @Aster said, some of these ships cannot be crafted.

 

[Angus MacDuff]

2 minutes ago, Le Raf Boom said:

PvP rewards, ship notes specifically, seem very expensive. And like @Aster said, some of these ships cannot be crafted.

 

How much does Loodsman cost??

[Raf Van Boom]

I think it's less than a Bellona 9000 vs 9500? I could be wrong, not in game.

[Sir Texas Sir]

17 minutes ago, Aster said:

I think pvp reward only ships will be completely unused now. 3000 doubloons for a Hermione is way to much and there is no way to build the ship normally.

It's 9K for a Bellona Note, but I have to use mats, permit and 4k Dabloons to craft one.

 

[Sir Texas Sir]

4 minutes ago, Angus MacDuff said:

How much does Loodsman cost??

9000

[Psycho3630]

Ship teleport costs have not been adjusted. Just spent 250,000 reals to move my Santi. 

[Sir Texas Sir]

@admin What does the Academy building do and why does it cost 2K doubloons?  Prob should put a desc of what these do when folks mouse over them.

[Bluetooth]

@admin

Redeemed my 2000 Db and dragged them to my chest and poof there gone. not in warehouse and not in chest.

I have F11 it.

can I have them back as redeemable please.

[VirtuallyIdiotic]

So I had about 24 historical artifacts stored up before wipe. When I went and checked today I had 4. How come? @admin

[big_ric]

Well in truth I am not a great pvp'er but I loved the ships in the game and the era. This patch you have done has simply pushed the game nearer to world of warships etc. The trading side of it has been completely weakened, the building side as well. You are forcing people to goto the other sides ports just to get ai's to allow them to gain xp and "gold". this enforces a greater chance of pvp I believe trading will become a thing of the past in the game which is a pity as a lot of people will do exactly what I am considering. Cutting my loses in the cost of outlay for the game and go somewhere else. 

[admin]

7 minutes ago, Davos Seaworth said:

So I had about 24 historical artifacts stored up before wipe. When I went and checked today I had 4. How come? @admin

all resources were converted to new resources (like oak planks to logs) or old resources (like artifacts to artifacts but with new weights or/and prices)
it was in the google doc  - topic on partial wipe was posted 4th may..
topic on removal of combat marks and pvp marks on 19th april
 

 

[Armored_Sheep]

24 minutes ago, Pirate Blackbeard said:

@admin

Redeemed my 2000 Db and dragged them to my chest and poof there gone. not in warehouse and not in chest.

I have F11 it.

can I have them back as redeemable please.

Same for me : Relase notes say 2000 doubloons will be issued to all captains as a timed redeemable for 14 days. I redeemed it and I still have same amount of doublons in game as before.

[Galt]

14 minutes ago, Sir Texas Sir said:

@admin What does the Academy building do and why does it cost 2K doubloons?  Prob should put a desc of what these do when folks mouse over them.

I think the devs said this building is required to change ship knowledge, I will see if I can find the post.

[VirtuallyIdiotic]

17 minutes ago, admin said:

all resources were converted to new resources (like oak planks to logs) or old resources (like artifacts to artifacts but with new weights or/and prices)
it was in the google doc  - topic on partial wipe was posted 4th may..
topic on removal of combat marks and pvp marks on 19th april
 

 

That still does not explain the conversion rate because it just looks like each stack I had was reduced to one.