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Idea: (Pt4/4) Old Admiral Ch.1 References

 

Part1

http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/26864-idea-pt14-the-old-admiral-the-sea/?tab=comments#comment-580244

Part2

http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/26873-idea-pt24-norfolk-nnimitz-and-the-facs-skill-book/?tab=comments#comment-580445

Part3

http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/26875-idea-pt34-fleet-commanders-companion-fcc/?tab=comments#comment-580527

and this Part 4

 

@admin

 

 

The four-part Old Admiral Summary

I hope I’ve managed to get across the [FACS] and [FCC] ideas. The Modules, Skill Books and Perks are all part of the game and must stay. Stacking Buffs handled correctly or in a more realistic fashion will heighten the joy of these amazing models.

Incorrectly done though, and the game is no better than a PotC also ran. Buffs in fleet make sense and did happen in real life. The Two Frigates hunting down a 74-gun French ship of the line inspired by Pellew the man...

The man in charge effects how the rest of the fleet ships or men perform. Norfolk ordinarily would never have run on to that second Quarter Deck without His leaders daring actions or inspiration...

Using well known ship Partnerships or Rivals to Nerfs or Buffs this gives depth without losing realism. Add the element of Hidden so research is needed and an added dimension opens up...

 

 

Part 4 Summary

This final part is just the Part1Old Admiral & the Sea chapter1 reference list. Doing the whole thing is mammoth in scale and I’ve bored you all enough. The short story I hope gave background and depth by using real world People and actions. Ideas like this can give backstory depth to campaign threads...

http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/26648-idea-dynamic-npc-nation-overlays/

 

Just the opening words shows how much depth that can turn into different arcs. Although the battle of Tiburon is fiction Saturday 17th September 1808 was a nice place for a campaign thread and what unravels. It was Inspired actually by NA-OW forum thread...

http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/26603-war-of-the-lovers-spain-vs-france/

 

If the story did its job the reader was left hopefully wanting more. He pretty much knows what happened to its protagonist but not much more. The battle a success what happened from there onward with Santo Domingo? Did our ALT SPY help with a French slave revolt?

The battle if failed, what then with counter balances?

 

Mechanics and Step instructions...

The use of dispatches with Lat and Long coordinates tied to a time for another meeting. This a great test starter finding a spot in the middle of nowhere for all to meet. Smaller task and achievements could unlock more or less information. These leader steps in the campaign adding story as well not just a task to solve...

Getting a French ALT into Tiburon to get intel. Might be a tad controversial, but Spies happened...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_John_Scott

If successful more details open if not less etc. and so on. I Hope this might have given the Dev’s some thoughts for future RvR or other ideas to add to NA-OW for Campaigns and such.

   

 

Finally,

Below is the reference list. I would like say a big thank you for reading the POSTs. Any feedback good or bad is so much welcomed.

 

 

Also, I hope you just like the story on its own for what it was...

 

 

Norfolk nChance [ELITE]

 

 

 

The Old Admiral & the Sea...



I                     Midwatch Two Bells, HMS Indefatigable

 

The watch & Bells time system

https://www.historicnavalfiction.com/general-hnf-info/naval-facts/the-watch-system

HMS Indefatigable

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Indefatigable_(1784)

James Dacres

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Richard_Dacres_(1749–1810)

Sir Peter Parker

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Peter_Parker,_1st_Baronet

Saturday 17th September 1808

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Indies_Campaign_1804–10

Map

 

Hunter-Case Pocket Watch

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocket_watch

Nelson’s Patent-Bridge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Captain_(1787)

http://chasingnelson.blogspot.com/2013/09/nelsons-patent-bridge-for-boarding.html

http://www.admiralnelson.info/CapeStVincent4.htm

John Sykes, John Thomson and Francis Cook “His old Agamemnon’s...”

 

 

Swallow the Anchor – to retire ashore

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_nautical_terms

WFS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Frigate_Squadron

Sir Edward Pellew

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Pellew,_1st_Viscount_Exmouth

Richard Howe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Howe,_1st_Earl_Howe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glorious_First_of_June

Napoleonic Wars

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Napoleonic_Wars

 

 

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Hi,

I took a look at your 4 part idea, There seems to be several ideas running in parallel. 

A short back story coupled with orders, A squadron/Flotilla sized tactical unit within a fleet, a form of Janes Fighting Ships with optional links to the history of each ship class, Suggestions for balanced Fleet/ Squadron/Flotilla operations using ships with differing characteristics for flexibility.

1, I liked the back story, it gave me a sense of immersion into a bigger story,   It was also fairly typical of a captains meeting aboard the Flagship in the period, such meetings would often involve dinner and or some form of buffet. The use of spies was commonplace, and dressed as priests would be creditable, they tended to travel to places where the average man could not go and raised little comment or suspicion. 

Orders were and still are phrased specifically, with key words and phrases denoting the urgency of the mission and the degree of autonomy the Captain held or how much co-operation he could expect from Port Admirals.

Terminology of the period is not so different  as to today, some terms have of course changed meaning over time, for example the term Executive Officer is the US equivalent of the Royal Navy 1st Lieutenant, which is a position that may be held by a Master and Commander/ Lt. Commander on Ships of the Line or a Lt on smaller ships Lt's would be numbered,  for example 1st -6th Lt's, according to seniority on the Navy list aboard ship, the earlier their commission date the higher their position aboard ship. 

  2. Something, like Jane's as an information centre  is much needed, Not only for ship ID purposes but also for fleet/ Squadron/Flotilla  structure, for example an 8 frigate flotilla could be composed of 4 good upwind sailors and 4 good downwind sailors,  or Aggy/ Endy as a  combined, balanced, Squadron, 2 half flotilla's in a Flotilla of Aggies and Endies would provide training for potential fleet commanders as well.

Overall, I like the ideas as a whole, with a little polish, research, and with the use of good intelligence, balanced fleets sound planning it is a step towards small campaigns, subject to available numbers and ability to carry  out them out. With a defined background, Orders from London, orders and missions could be generated at clan level possibly with clans providing needed SOL and Frigate/light ship Squadrons,  to create fleets for specific tasks from small raids to PB's, from OW hunting groups to Screening  missions.   

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