Licinio Chiavari Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 More on the topic #MakeConnieGreatAgain. She is a ship I deeply love... and I used in any possible variation. From the old teak/fir or fir/teak PvPer, to the great strong battle teak/WO, passing through weird variations like fir/maho (fast raiding boarder) and fir/fir "heavy tagger" (speed fitted and mast buffed to tag the super Wasas without losing masts in 2 broadsides nor being sunk in 3) up to the super tanky super frigate LO/WO (going side to side vs 1st rates with edinorogs+42carros). BUT at the moment she is a broken ship: too slow for PvP hunt and counter-hunt, too low turning rate to fight effectively anything both smaller or bigger. So I really wish we could get a working Connie(classic?) making her again a great ship... as she was historically. 1
Lovec1990 Posted September 11, 2018 Posted September 11, 2018 18 hours ago, Licinio Chiavari said: More on the topic #MakeConnieGreatAgain. She is a ship I deeply love... and I used in any possible variation. From the old teak/fir or fir/teak PvPer, to the great strong battle teak/WO, passing through weird variations like fir/maho (fast raiding boarder) and fir/fir "heavy tagger" (speed fitted and mast buffed to tag the super Wasas without losing masts in 2 broadsides nor being sunk in 3) up to the super tanky super frigate LO/WO (going side to side vs 1st rates with edinorogs+42carros). BUT at the moment she is a broken ship: too slow for PvP hunt and counter-hunt, too low turning rate to fight effectively anything both smaller or bigger. So I really wish we could get a working Connie(classic?) making her again a great ship... as she was historically. I agree she is too slow, but her turnrate is not bad if you look at her apperance
admin Posted September 12, 2018 Author Posted September 12, 2018 Hotfix was deployed 12th September Fixed the bug locking you in port if you wanted to claim tutorial rewards without the outpost Fixed basic cutter BR issues Fixed Diana bugs with decals and colliders Constitution Classic timed redeemable added to all captains for testing. Please login within 14 days to claim the ship. 17
Teutonic Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 Quite a surprise we have here. Hope everything is running smoothly.
Suricato Rojo Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 You should have replace old connie with new one. 7
Nelsons Barrel Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Suricato Rojo said: You should have replace old connie with new one. With the new addition the old conni has absolutely no reason to exist. 1
Guest Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 Just now, Nelsons Barrel said: With the new addition the old conni has absolutely no reason to exist. Isnt there a difference between them?
Nelsons Barrel Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 Just now, Flinch said: Isnt there a difference between them? The old one has a worse shaped hull and 2 bow chasers less compared to the new one.
Hethwill, the Red Duke Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, Nelsons Barrel said: The old one has a worse shaped hull and 2 bow chasers less compared to the new one. Look at the rigging very carefully. 1
Tomasso il Fortunato Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 One question. The testing ships will rest in our possession after tests ?
GhastlyGhost Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Wraith said: Except aren’t we expecting Connie classic to be DLC? Thanks though, it should be fun to test. If we get DLC Connie it will be even more OP than Herc and LeBroken. There should be no premium ships above 5th rate Edited September 12, 2018 by GhastlyGhost 5
Licinio Chiavari Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 1 hour ago, admin said: Hotfix was deployed 12th September Fixed the bug locking you in port if you wanted to claim tutorial rewards without the outpost Fixed basic cutter BR issues Fixed Diana bugs with decals and colliders Constitution Classic timed redeemable added to all captains for testing. Please login within 14 days to claim the ship. Dear Devs: there's nothing to test. Granted you added 2 more bow chasers, I can assure that pressing 4 times in place of 2 the spacebar, I fire all 4 bow chasers, as intended I think. Granted you (nicely) made her model better, I can assure that it is better. Granted that all stats stay the crappy same of Constitution, no need to sail her to know that she's slower than Agamennon (LOL) and turning like a 3rd rate (WTF). Nothing to say I should rework her 5 books again... something I'll NEVER do granted the above noted SAME stats. My personal suggestion is, at least, remove old Connie model and simply replacing it with Classic one. You could add or not the 2 extra bow chasers... but it'll make NO difference at all: she'll be NOT USED. Thank you 2
Hethwill, the Red Duke Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 48 minutes ago, Licinio Chiavari said: Dear Devs: there's nothing to test. Stay away from it then or run 2 parallel tests with both connies. 1st one would be obvious - hull shape versus ball of various weights. I think you can test a few more things... 3
Licinio Chiavari Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Hethwill the Harmless said: Stay away from it then or run 2 parallel tests with both connies. 1st one would be obvious - hull shape versus ball of various weights. I think you can test a few more things... I already noted the bit more round side... so more bouncing. So slightly buffing her strenght (thinkness atm on par with Bellona): a strenght that already demonstrated it is not sufficient to make her viable. Other to be tested. Like? Hard stats and profile are the same... so: what changed? PS: I am a tester, in theory. I need to know BEFORE WHATS GOING ON (so profile, ALL stats hidden and not) and then test them especially in relation with other ships... not try&fail to discover for example the effect of a rigging or the other. VERY BAD policy IMO. Edited September 12, 2018 by Licinio Chiavari
Hethwill, the Red Duke Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 Is all same values except for Rigging Crew ( needs more sailors in there ). Hull shape changed, sail plan is different, some guns added. Test.
Licinio Chiavari Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Hethwill the Harmless said: Is all same values except for Rigging Crew ( needs more sailors in there ). Hull shape changed, sail plan is different, some guns added. Test. I can see on a ship 1 sail or 1000. If her top speed is the same, nothing change stat wise. Being stat wise total crap at the moment... she'll keep being crap. Checked too sailing profile: it can considered even WORST than normal one (speedtrials great pages). 2 bow chasers... good (especially Connie one being 18lbs)... BUT with staying crappy stats (like 2.87 turning) she'll keep being... CRAPPY.
Licinio Chiavari Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Banished Privateer said: @admin after succesful testing, is there a chance or plan to transform all current existing Connies into Classic one? This is a damn good point.
Slim McSauce Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Wraith said: Except aren’t we expecting Connie classic to be DLC? no? lol what would be the point of keeping the outdated model 2
Slim McSauce Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Coraline Vodka said: Just rename it heavy frigate LOL, here I have a better idea. Replace all old connies with the updated model connie, then take the old model, rename it the Acheron from m&c and sell THAT as DLC. guaranteed more $$$ this way Edited September 12, 2018 by Slim McSauce 7
Sir Texas Sir Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Nelsons Barrel said: With the new addition the old conni has absolutely no reason to exist. Just make it a generic frigate that folks can buy for CM's 2
Hethwill, the Red Duke Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sir Texas Sir said: Just make it a generic frigate that folks can buy for CM's Golden.
StaleMemes Posted September 12, 2018 Posted September 12, 2018 3 hours ago, Wraith said: Except aren’t we expecting Connie classic to be DLC? Thanks though, it should be fun to test. Making the Constitution a DLC and having the worse version available through regular means would illicit the same response from Americans that you would get from the Brits if you made HMS Victory a DLC and make Bucentaure available regularly. Only a million times worse because subtlety is not an American speciality. 2
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