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Patch 26. Spanish Frigate Diana, BR rebalance - Diana is a timed reward.


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Posted
47 minutes ago, z4ys said:

How would it be possible to give navy brig or lynx a BR? They are not used in pbs. Same goes for many other ships.

It would not be possible if there were no statistics, only thing left is to use your brain to estimate a value and check again in the next iteration.

I would not have done this radical changes as admin did. Max 10% changes in the first iteration, then check again in the next one. If ship is not used in Port Battles, then decrease BR -10%.

To me it would be hard to get in balanced numbers by doing this big changes, so I would stay in smaller iteration. Would be somehow easier to follow ships development instead of jumping from "Not Used" to "Most Popular" or the opposite. We don't know if this is going to even happen though.

Doesn't have to be perfect the first time, but it is very good that they started the process finally.

Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, Wraith said:

The new sailing profile of the Diana, for anyone who's interested, up against other downwind sailors:

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so now nobody will use the trinc because diana is better average? Better guns (currently) + stern guns better sailing profil

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Cmdr RideZ said:

It would not be possible if there were no statistics, only thing left is to use your brain to estimate a value and check again in the next iteration.

I would not have done this radical changes as admin did. Max 10% changes in the first iteration, then check again in the next one. If ship is not used in Port Battles, then decrease BR -10%.

To me it would be hard to get in balanced numbers by doing this big changes, so I would stay in smaller iteration. Would be somehow easier to follow ships development instead of jumping from "Not Used" to "Most Popular" or the opposite. We don't know if this is going to even happen though.

Doesn't have to be perfect the first time, but it is very good that they started the process finally.

Don't forget that BR affects tagging, so for even those ships not used in PBs, they need a BR. 

Posted
8 minutes ago, Wraith said:

Classic actually has a better turn rate at the expense of a small, downwind nerf (according to the API data):

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Better turn rate meh Connie needs more speed even by apperance it is clear that Connie is not turn fighter

Posted
2 hours ago, Wraith said:

It should be noted that anything below 80 BR cannot get into deep water port battles... this now includes the Merc, Rattler and Snow.

The new sailing profile of the Diana, for anyone who's interested, up against other downwind sailors:

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Thx bro.

Posted
2 hours ago, z4ys said:

so now nobody will use the trinc because diana is better average? Better guns (currently) + stern guns better sailing profil

Trinc has more damage because more guns is better than higher caliber guns. I think its base speed is better too. 4 bow chasers is epic for hunters. 

I enjoy both ships. 

Posted

Just logged in to claim the Diana (first time I've logged in in a couple of months, I'm guessing) and man, the new open world UI and map look beautiful. Good job, devs. :)

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Posted
6 hours ago, Malachi said:

The closest you´ll get to her War of 1812 appearance is the model gifted to Isaac Hull by Connie´s crew and the Corné painting, commissioned by Isaac Hull.

Can post links atm, but hopefully someone other can :)

Or the actual ship. The goal of the last 2 maintenance haul outs was to restore her to that configuration/appearance. 

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Posted

In terms of leaks all ships do not get leaked the same take the victory vs the santi. The victory for some magical reason just takes so many leaks. Sitting still not moving (leaked), Going bow on at the enemy (leaked), hell it even gets leaks on the leeward side under water. While the santi is the only first rate I have never been able to leak shot. With standard ball I have never gotten more then 5-6 leaks even at the best leak moments (90 to the wind on the windward side and waiting for the wave). I think the ocean is right were it should be, it can take a fatal amount of leaks if you make a mistake but it does not take leaks all over/just no leaks at all. Anyway Making the victory not such a leak magnet would go a long way to making a useable first rate again.

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Posted
13 hours ago, Borch said:

BR itself is a fix only for RvR purpose. OW wont be fixed by BR changes. If for example you would bring again meaningfull trading to the game, some ships are an easy pick to get perfect results. It shouldnt be like that.

In open world, I guess the BR change will impact and improve the reinforcement that can be called in green areas. 

Posted (edited)
16 hours ago, DeRuyter said:

Or the actual ship. The goal of the last 2 maintenance haul outs was to restore her to that configuration/appearance. 

And do you think they did a good job? Just asking.

 

Edited by Malachi
Posted (edited)

Im intrested @admin why is bow part of Constitution where other ships have Bowfigure black and golden while in most pictures i can find its black and white did i missed something ?

Edited by Lovec1990
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Lovec1990 said:

Here Current Constitution in real life is black and white:

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While in game We have black and gold

Modern constitution barely resembles the constitution of 200 years ago, she has been rebuilt and refitted too many times and at this point it would be easier and cheaper to build a whole new ship with historic methods than renovate her back to how she was in her fighting days. The new game model represents her far better and more accurately to how she was back then over the museum ship you can visit today with its various updates shes had over the years

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Fluffy Fishy said:

Modern constitution barely resembles the constitution of 200 years ago, she has been rebuilt and refitted too many times and at this point it would be easier and cheaper to build a whole new ship with historic methods than renovate her back to how she was in her fighting days. The new game model represents her far better and more accurately to how she was back then over the museum ship you can visit today with its various updates shes had over the years

Thanks.

Just noticed in game if you go into ship store there are two constitutions now Constitution and Constitution Classic

Posted
4 minutes ago, Intrepido said:

Give new conie to everyone so we can test it!

Just 2 exceptions, I want new conie AND christian VII. Meanwhile, Sir Texas should not receive them because he is always demanding things (like ETAs).

I agree but in other hand there is not much too test

Posted
6 minutes ago, Lovec1990 said:

I agree but in other hand there is not much too test

If you think so. But there's plenty of stuff to test, even in the old ships, OW mechanics, trade mechanics, new ships, cannon, everything. Just use your imagination...

Image result for test pilot

 

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Posted (edited)

@Hethwill the Harmless if there was much too test they would do same as they did with Diana but perhaps they are waiting so that 15day Diana test period is over and then they could give us new connie to test, but still Why two Connies now in game

Edited by Lovec1990
Posted

They are the devs. Who knows what stuff goes through their offices... C'mon man, just go with the flow.

Test ships have been handed along the years to different testers, mods and not mods.

So, take a good look at the picture I posted. Let it sink.

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