NethrosDefectus Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Wyy said: cap it from him I suspect it is uncappable for obvious reasons
z4ys Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, NethrosDefectus said: So someone(s) is sailing around in a basically untested ship but is able to fight other players with it? Give it to ALL to test or keep it internal. And certainly not to THAT guy the classic one has same stats as the one that is currently ingame. Differences are only sail appearance and 4 bow chaser instead of 2. Max crew thickness speed are all the same. Classic one has 9 more crew in sailing tho.
Sir Texas Sir Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Intrepido said: But it is way more beautiful. The guy testing it cant fully understand art, I demand another one for me. Yah doesn’t he only like bath tub toys from the shallows. Next he will get the Christian to test too. @admin I demand paint chest for all to compensate for this out rage action...8p Edited August 30, 2018 by Sir Texas Sir 1
z4ys Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Intrepido said: But it is way more beautiful. The guy testing it cant fully understand art, I demand another one for me. he was streaming, I was streaming. We both stream without delay. We even said where we are. We even sailed into the french new orleans reinforcement zone (They runaway in ow as soon we left the zone to face them). 2 Brits tried it at Key west and failed. Heths put her into fire. If someone really want her. Just come and get her. She has no imported status so free to capture! Edited August 30, 2018 by z4ys 1
John Sheppard Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Br for 3rd rate is defintely too low and will probably be spammed which is kind of ok historically most of the lineships in battles were 74 and not 1st rates But why is the Trinc same BR as a bloody 3rd rate? Also the Victory's BR is way to high .. only 20 lower than L'ocean? even with the 68pd carros it can't stand up to the ocean as it's just not enough guns Also the Victory will remain useless untill it's leaking problem is fixed .. being able to 1shot a Victory with a bellona is absurd yet easily doable (tested it) It's also not historically accurate as well since if anything the victory should be the hardest ship to leak as it was noted that it sat very low in the water such that the bottom deck was like only meter and a half above the water therefore had to be closed in rough weather . So PLEASE fix the vic's leaking problem
NethrosDefectus Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Just now, z4ys said: he was streaming, I was streaming. We both stream without delay. We even said where we are. We even sailed into the french new orleans reinforcement zone (They runaway in ow as soon we left the zone to face them). 2 Brits tried it at Key west and failed. Heths put her into fire. If someone really want her. Just come and get her. Is she cappable?
Knobby Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 15 minutes ago, NethrosDefectus said: So someone(s) is sailing around in a basically untested ship but is able to fight other players with it? Give it to ALL to test or keep it internal. And certainly not to THAT guy All the new ships wer always first given to mods before they were released to all. It's just that atm heth is the only mod thats actually playing... 2
z4ys Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Just now, NethrosDefectus said: Is she cappable? She has no imported status so free to capture!
z4ys Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Just now, Intrepido said: I want 10 redeemables of the Diana, the new conie and the Christian VII as compensation. Check your alts for Diana redeemables 😉 1
Guest Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, Intrepido said: I proposed to admin a br of 750 for the Vic and 350 for the 74. But the only guy who agrees with me is @Sir Texas Sir (and not always). guess it will be tweaked even further when they see l'oceans are still preferred over victory
Sir Texas Sir Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Intrepido said: I want 10 redeemables of the Diana, the new conie and the Christian VII as compensation. And you forgot paint chest for all, let’s not be gready now. Edited August 30, 2018 by Sir Texas Sir 2
Palatinose Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Anybody (admin? Ink?) got some intel on the Dianas' tweaks? She performs less good (but still very fine and not totally OP anymore) close hauled. Turning still is tremendous.
Ink Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Update 30th August 2018 Battle rating has been corrected for some of first rates: L'Ocean 900 BR Santisima 800 BR Diana sailing curve has been properly applied on live servers 6
Hethwill, the Red Duke Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Testing ships is not meta'ing ships. Will put the Diana on hold for the moment being, but watching other streamers that sail her. Classic definitely needs proper testing - she deserves it. This is not WoT so cut me some slack. @admin a epic thanks to the team. 4
Cecil Selous Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, John Sheppard said: Also the Victory will remain useless untill it's leaking problem is fixed .. being able to 1shot a Victory with a bellona is absurd yet easily doable (tested it) It's also not historically accurate as well since if anything the victory should be the hardest ship to leak as it was noted that it sat very low in the water such that the bottom deck was like only meter and a half above the water therefore had to be closed in rough weather . So PLEASE fix the vic's leaking problem Sitting low in the water should have nothing to do with leaking from shots to the waterline right? Every ship has a waterline and if you shot there and punch some holes your enemy will probably take on some water. Although I think the leak mechanic in game only counts shots under the intended waterline in the plan. I don't sail the Victory but isn't it more a heeling problem then, which should be less when she sits lower in the water?
Lovec1990 Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 3 hours ago, z4ys said: USS Constitution Classic unofficial cinematic teaser I got a Couple questions: -Why is New Constitution called Costitution Classic? -Release day for new model?
Cecil Selous Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Lovec1990 said: I got a Couple questions: -Why is New Constitution called Costitution Classic? -Release day for new model? Hopefully just as a way to differentiate the models from each other because both are in the game right now. I also hope that the new model will completely replace the old one. 1
z4ys Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Just now, Lovec1990 said: I got a Couple questions: -Why is New Constitution called Costitution Classic? -Release day for new model? Guess its the War 1812 model. But to be sure maybe an expert can say something to that. Release no idea
Cmdr RideZ Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Bring this here as this is related to BR balancing. I really like this as this forum is full of people who support their own playstyle and favorite ship. You then have to make sure you use right statistics. This is why I asked earlier did you use OW PvP statistics as well. OW PvP is pure gank and Port Battles are almost like a boxing ring. The only way to balance OW PvP is to change ship stats. You would need to add BR based ROE or signaling perk or something to force BR to OW PvP. After would make sense to use OW PvP statistics as well. After this patch people are probably still going to use Endymion and Trincomalee in OW PvP and have good results. Not sure if they are going to use these in port battles though. Would be very interesting to see BR values based on Port Battles and OW PvP battles separatelly. Possible to get these from the combat result logs?
z4ys Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, Cmdr RideZ said: Would be very interesting to see BR values based on Port Battles How would it be possible to give navy brig or lynx a BR? They are not used in pbs. Same goes for many other ships.
Malachi Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, z4ys said: Guess its the War 1812 model. But to be sure maybe an expert can say something to that. The closest you´ll get to her War of 1812 appearance is the model gifted to Isaac Hull by Connie´s crew and the Corné painting, commissioned by Isaac Hull. Can post links atm, but hopefully someone other can 2
Percival Merewether Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Malachi said: The closest you´ll get to her War of 1812 appearance is the model gifted to Isaac Hull by Connie´s crew and the Corné painting, commissioned by Isaac Hull. Can post links atm, but hopefully someone other can I just looked it up - I know very little of US ships, very fascinating model. Thanks for the tip. For those interested: https://ussconstitutionmuseum.org/2015/11/23/a-model-ship/
Malachi Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) This is the painting I mentioned above, there´s another one by Corné showing the battle between C and Guerrière IIRC Edited April 5, 2019 by Malachi 4
Old Crusty Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 On 8/29/2018 at 4:42 AM, admin said: If battle rating is affected by sustained battle performance and usage rate it will always generate outliers, sometimes lowering its rating below lower classed ships. It will become and feel normal, once everyone consider br not as arbitrary number based not only on ship stats but how this stats affect battle performance (new missions wont be BR based but will be class based) Excepted outcome: Port battles will definitely be more diverse now. And ships that were avoided before will get used more. Which will in turn could increase the rating. If performance does not change - then ships stats definitely need to be addressed. Couple of iterations and the ratings will stabilize. I just want to say how much I appreciate the new BR system. I know that some ships are way off right now but this is such a big step in the right direction. I know that with playing the ships and proper feedback that by the time release comes around every ship should have a fairly accurate BR. It will never be perfect but certainly is a lot better than what it was. Port Battles are going to be crazy now!! (In a good way). Just had s shallow water port battle yesterday with several different kinds of ships on both sides. Only a couple Le Requirements. I had a great time being trounced! 2
Lovec1990 Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Intrepido said: That paint should be the default one for conie classic. True meybe this paint will come with Paints DLC.
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