Cmdr RideZ Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 24 minutes ago, admin said: We had to to limit (we mentioned it in the patchnotes) limit the changes in battle ratings to not break old pve missions for players. True pvp rating for aga is even lower. Its basically at least 2x worse than constitution/endymion in terms of pvp performance. BR is used to balance Port Battles and has nothing for OW PvP? Are you taking these results from OW PvP or PB statistics? Or from both?
OjK Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) Santisima = 800 L'Ocean = 900 Victory = 780 Bucentaure = 460 Pavel = 400 Bellona = 450 3rd Rate = ??? Wasa = 450 Agamemnon = 250 Constitution = ??? Wapen von Hamburg = 250 Ingermanland = ??? Indefatigable = ??? Endymion = 330 Trincomalee = 300 Essex = 165 Belle Poule = 170 Hercules = 220 Le requin = 160 + Diana = 220 In "used-to-be" BR Order Edited August 29, 2018 by OjK
Guest Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 seems great with the new BR , but i kinda feel the gap between 1st and 2nd rate is abit to much since in the 10k pb's will now be filled with 25 pavels
Teutonic Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Intrepido said: I sail wasa and bellona and wasa is way more soft than bellona... True, now. Remember what the statistics might look like with when the wasa was OP. We don't know how far back the devs have looked into stats.
Cmdr RideZ Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) Aggy is a good ship it is just so close to Bellona in gameplay that everyone takes a Bellona instead. Other balance issues than BR here. Wasa really performing equally good vs Bellona in PB? Or in OW PvP? I don't even know anyone sailing a Wasa. Edited August 29, 2018 by Cmdr RideZ
Guest Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, Teutonic said: True, now. Remember what the statistics might look like with when the wasa was OP. We don't know how far back the devs have looked into stats. i would assume since herc and requin release
Captain Cid Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, OjK said: Santisima = 800 L'Ocean = 900 Victory = 780 Bucentaure = 460 Pavel = 400 Bellona = 450 3rd Rate = 300 Wasa = 450 Agamemnon = 250 Constitution = 340 Wapen von Hamburg = 250 Ingermanland = 230 Indefatigable = 220 Endymion = 330 Trincomalee = 300 Essex = 165 Belle Poule = 170 Hercules = 220 Le requin = 160 + Diana = 220 In "used-to-be" BR Order Rattlesnake heavy 90 Niagara 80 Edited August 29, 2018 by Captain Cid 1
Teutonic Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, Wyy said: seems great with the new BR , but i kinda feel the gap between 1st and 2nd rate is abit to much since in the 10k pb's will now be filled with 25 pavels Some folks like @Jon Snow lets go say it is incredibly easy to leak a pavel. So I'm not so sure if you will see entirely only pavels. Plus, currently 1st rates outperform 2nds by a long shot, so i'd like to see if this new BR spread will change that entirely or make it more of a balanced choice.
OjK Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) Vic need to be even more reduced, Bellona will be new Pavel, as there will be no point in taking it over Buc, or 3rd rate (where You can have 3x 3rd Rates for each 2 Bellonas) Way too much wrong decisions, based not on the ship itself, but the "alternatives". What we changed? Just different alternatives, which makes other choices absolutely wrong (R.I.P Bellona) Edited August 29, 2018 by OjK 1
speijk Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 54 minutes ago, OjK said: Agamemnon 250 is fine?? Kinda confusing with 330 Endymion this is a joke i hope? i love my endymions to god. i praise them to heaven but no way on earth a endymion wil take on a agamennon!
z4ys Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, speijk said: this is a joke i hope? i love my endymions to god. i praise them to heaven but no way on earth a endymion wil take on a agamennon! K/D does not lie
Cmdr RideZ Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 It can be that good players were sailing good ships or slightly better. It can be that players who had no time to study ships sailed whatever. I recommend to follow and balance very rapidly now.
z4ys Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 maybe i spoiled the stats, i always sink my own agas or sink agas with princes would explain 110br of her^^
admin Posted August 29, 2018 Author Posted August 29, 2018 Just now, Cmdr RideZ said: It can be that good players were sailing good ships or slightly better. It can be that players who had no time to study ships sailed whatever. I recommend to follow and balance very rapidly now. BR mostly affects the port battles and has very minor influence in the open world (unless you have a large battle group). We expect that diversity will increase in port battles and if it will it means such new direction for BR will become a permanent feature. 4
z4ys Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bobzillah said: not shure if already asked but can we see the BR rating in port of our selfs or in open world if it is gona be that different ??? or our pb`s not gona be plannable anymore ? Go out of port open fleet "F" hover over your ship card 3
qw569😳 Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 The new system is vulnerable. A group of skillful players can raise BR of any ship. Especially if she is not popular. As we see in the Le Gross Ventre Refit example (+70BR). 1
admin Posted August 29, 2018 Author Posted August 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bobzillah said: not shure if already asked but can we see the BR rating in port of our selfs or in open world if it is gona be that different ??? or our pb`s not gona be plannable anymore ? in the new port interface 10
z4ys Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 Just now, qw569 said: The new system is vulnerable. A group of skillful players can raise BR of any ship. Especially if she is not popular. As we see in the Le Gross Ventre Refit example (+70BR). or prince
z4ys Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, admin said: in the new port interface really nice thanks for sharing ❤️ So many buttons on the bottom may I ask what does the port ui look like?^^ Edited August 29, 2018 by z4ys
Corona Lisa Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 Nice update, even if the new ship looks op and BR is a bit messy. A new meta is always nice and also 1st rates having so much BR means that other ships can maybe have a place in PBs now 1
qw569😳 Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, z4ys said: or prince I'm sure that Prince de Neufchatel is 10 times bigger number than Le Gross Ventre Refit. Edited August 29, 2018 by qw569 1
Lovec1990 Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, admin said: in the new port interface And Constitution Classic appears again 2
z4ys Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, qw569 said: I'm sure that Prince de Neufchatel is 10 times bigger than Le Gross Ventre Refit. doesnt have warthunder the same way to calc BR? What are their issues with BR?
vazco Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 46 minutes ago, Wyy said: if possible, I would prefer it to update maybe once a week automatically, so we dont have the same meta for maybe a month at the time Maybe in sync when the week starts after the Victory Marks are handed out would be a good solution to do more things at the same time. That's a great idea! I fully support it! 1
Cmdr RideZ Posted August 29, 2018 Posted August 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, admin said: BR mostly affects the port battles and has very minor influence in the open world (unless you have a large battle group). We expect that diversity will increase in port battles and if it will it means such new direction for BR will become a permanent feature. BR values are used for PB only. The new BR values, if you used OW PvP statistics as well, not sure if that gives the best balance for Port Battles. The only way to balance ships for OW PvP is to change other stats. Diversity is good for PBs, you could also consider adding Rate limits.
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