So you tell devs something they do not want to hear... and they close the topic!

[Corona Lisa]

5 minutes ago, z4ys said:

The current ranting is about OW battles not about pbs. So Br numbers mean nothing. Actuall a higher BR would buff le requin making it possible to attack bigger ships.

Then compare the whole ships with each other please and not just single parts. The Requin has a very different sailing profile and is much faster upwind than all their counterparts.

Cerberus is very strong against 6th rates due to the firepower but gets spanked by any other 5th rate and since the sailing profile is very similar to a belle poule for example it cannot run. Requin on the other had can do what it wants to any ship.

green is requin, blue is cerberus, red is belle poule

[Hethwill, the Red Duke]

Ends in a draw. Same as Prince versus Snow.

[Hethwill, the Red Duke]

Why only the Xebec regardind the mods ? Why not all ships ?

The BR should be the same as Cerberus, even if we go against the historical classifications.

[vazco]

6 hours ago, Liq said:

Id like to test that, because I really dont think either ship can do much vs a decent herc captain

You up for a test? You choose connie or lgv refit. Ill take the herc.

I could test it with you next week once I'm back if you'd like to do this. I thought the same, however I changed my opinion after recent patch, once I had a chance to fight with and against Herc in two battles. Herc was nerfed quite well, it may be balanced already. 

If this is the case and Herc is ok, it will still take some time for people to change their opinion, like it took me. 

Requin is a different story. 

Disclaimer: I was planning to test Herc with Banished, however due to some disputes between us I don't think it's a good idea, as duel between us wouldn't be about fun or testing. 

[Busterbloodvessel]

3 minutes ago, Sir Hethwill the RedDuke said:

Why only the Xebec regardind the mods ? Why not all ships ?

The BR should be the same as Cerberus, even if we go against the historical classifications.

The elephant in the room is called...

MONEY .. MONEY .. MONEY.

Buster (No.1 elephant house)

[Bluetooth]

15 minutes ago, Intrepido said:

Requin good balance would be:

-Weaker masts and less sail HP. Fix also the hitpoints.

-Extra crew damage received because of gun fire.

-Not able to equip sail or crew mods.

-A BR increase to 120. So in shallow water PBs commanders would think twice before bringing them.

Lol. Not able to use mods. Made me chuckle.

Edited August 15, 2018 by Crow

[Dibbler (Retired)]

To the OP seriously man chill out some,  many agree that perhaps some adjustment to DLC ships needs to happen.

As for losing your 2 ships it happens, but if would unsalt the situation i offer to give you enough PvP marks for another LGV refit (indef is easy replaced anyway).

 

 

[Guest]

if the hitboxes on the requin are fixed e.g. making it able to decrew it with grape over the open deck i think alot of problems would be fixed, right now as it is it has no counter than other requins.

[jodgi]

1 hour ago, z4ys said:

Data there is outdated

Ye, sorry about that. I'll get to it soon. The values are a little off, but comparisons are still valid.

[Vernon Merrill]

Usually takes about 10-15 mast hits with a 6-lb.’er to take down a Xebec mast...  The only way I’ve found to escape a pirate-rigged Xebec with a pirate rigged Prince is to take one down before you get rage-boarded.  

The skill/luck factor of escape in this situation is extreme.  

Which is typically why experienced hunter groups will usually involve one Xebec and a at least one square-rigger.

[RedNeckMilkMan]

9 hours ago, Liq said:

Id like to test that, because I really dont think either ship can do much vs a decent herc captain

You up for a test? You choose connie or lgv refit. Ill take the herc.

Herc stays on Connies ass the entire time, Hugs down the LGV refit with its bigger broadside gg ez.

[John Hood]

11 hours ago, Vernon Merrill said:

Maybe you just suck that bad?

Maybe it does not matter anymore... but yeah my lgv refit had no upgrades and no slots I was on the way to a mission to beef her up... and the AI ship was useless... i think it shot me more then the herc... Anyhow no need to worry about me the game has one player less...

 

[John Hood]

2 hours ago, Dibbler said:

To the OP seriously man chill out some,  many agree that perhaps some adjustment to DLC ships needs to happen.

As for losing your 2 ships it happens, but if would unsalt the situation i offer to give you enough PvP marks for another LGV refit (indef is easy replaced anyway).

 

 

Nice offer but I quit... thank you though... yesterday I gave away most of my ships and marks... and right now talking to paypal for a refund... german law seems to be on my side because they changed a significant property of the game with adding the p2w ships at least with a 60€ refund I can have one good night of drinking and laugh about the game  I mean I gave 5 victory marks way and that would have covered the pvp marks... its a matter of principal that the game is broke thanks to the premium ships!

Edited August 15, 2018 by John Hood

[Old Crusty]

6 hours ago, admin said:

You defend your opinions, i defend my opinions. I don't see the need to get emotional statements like "slap in the face" and such into the normal discussions. Hearing other opinions which could also be wrong, or could evolve - is the purpose of the forum

 

The problem here is that you mistake facts for opinions. It is not an opinion the the La Requin is OP. That is simple fact.

[John Hood]

2 minutes ago, Old Crusty said:

The problem here is that you mistake facts for opinions. It is not an opinion the the La Requin is OP. That is simple fact.

The broke the whole game thanks to greed... I played world of warships before and then found naval action I was not back in world of warships for month because I liked the game... then the DLCs came and now it feels like the only ships you can play are Herc and Le Req... this stuff made me quit it...

 

[Hethwill, the Red Duke]

Can this be closed then, sir ? 

[Norfolk nChance]

@Sir Hethwill the RedDuke

 

Unfortunately, no. It needs leaving open. The minute you close it you’ll never hear the end of it if my wife is anything to go by. She can remember minor mis-deeds done by this cult leader going back fcuking years. The whiney b/tch.

 

Trust me

 

Norfolk

 

[Fenris]

4 hours ago, z4ys said:

BR is as fake as it always was. Those numbers mean nothing except entrance to pbs

Ain`t so much about BR.

Requin made a whole bunch of ships pretty useless, basically all 6th rates, and many 5th, which are having less crew than the cancer ship.

You are stubborn on purpose, i would like to know why.

[Fenris]

4 hours ago, Sir Hethwill the RedDuke said:

Ends in a draw. Same as Prince versus Snow.

Ahm..Comparing Requin to which ship? Indefatigable or Trincomalee? Just thinking of crew capabilities....

[Hethwill, the Red Duke]

Hard data proves the opinions. Else it is just feelings.

[Hethwill, the Red Duke]

1 minute ago, Fenris said:

Ahm..Comparing Requin to which ship? Indefatigable or Trincomalee? Just thinking of crew capabilities....

Discussion was about ability to engage and disengage.  Can't blame a close haul rig to disengage at will... i mean...you can but that means zero.

[Fenris]

18 minutes ago, Sir Hethwill the RedDuke said:

Discussion was about ability to engage and disengage.  Can't blame a close haul rig to disengage at will... i mean...you can but that means zero.

Trincomalee would have problems running away downwind, without sternchasers, if sails already damaged, and Indefatigable..Well consider her manouvering ability.

Someone said, it would be easy to demast Requin, even with Charge loads on 6 lbs....Never tried tbh.

But seriously dude, how many tries has an average player on idk, Navy brig, trying to demast Requin with single precise shots, before Requin destroys his sails and push him into irons? 1 or 2? That worth trying?

[z4ys]

4 minutes ago, Fenris said:

Trincomalee would have problems running away downwind, without sternchasers, if sails already damaged, and Indefatigable..Well consider her manouvering ability.

Someone said, it would be easy to demast Requin, even with Charge loads on 6 lbs....Never tried tbh.

But seriously dude, how many tries has an average player on idk, Navy brig, trying to demast Requin with single precise shots, before Requin destroys his sails and push him into irons? 1 or 2? That worth trying?

go 180° use laser stern chasers see the magic

[Fenris]

1 minute ago, z4ys said:

go 180° use laser stern chasers see the magic

I want to see you fighting in a Navy Brig against Requin. 1 vs 1. Some experienced player in Requin please. Close tag, no BS, no fake battles.

Or even better....You quit sailing Requin, from now on sail only 6th rates in shallow areas.I guess you won`t hold on for long

 

 

[jodgi]

1 hour ago, John Hood said:

this stuff made me quit it...

Why quit before they're done with balancing the ships?