Norfolk nChance Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) Idea: Norfolk wants @Jeheil [YouTube] back using again in NA...!!! SHORT Version at the bottom of the POST @admin My last idea for the time being thank God. POST Materials Wipe and Currency rollout... Idea: Pull the old Junkies back into NA Tempt the Older player back to re-try NA-OW. This to build up veteran player numbers, with New Players not really the target right now with all the changes a foot. Drag those ex-junkie’s out of rehab Background... I’m holding off coming back because I’ve so much to learn again. It’s not worth it with the major changes due. I like writing spreadsheets, I hate rewriting them. Just since Christmas so many mechanics have changed within the game. @Sir Texas Sir just takes the p/ss out of me now... With this in mind, someone who’s spent 1,000 or more hours then left, will find it ever harder to come back as the game morphs into different areas making NA difficult to get back into. Am sure you all loved @Jeheil YouTube stuff. How would he find coming back, or someone who's been away for a year? Nightmare... POST partial materials wipe and then the new Currency introduction, how will this game look to @Jeheil? Probably daunting but not impossible. He needs to be given an incentive or a quick hit to get him using again. So how do we get our reformed Junkie using? First and foremost, what would be a reformed Junkie? Let’s say 750 hours Gameplay with an in-game absence for six months or more. Not someone with 250 hours and a year away from the game. That’s the STEAM troll kids. Not sure if this even possible. STEAM is the conduit, GamesLabs [GL] sends the target Junkies an invitation from @admin. With gifts of bling to help soften the blow (excuse the pun again) back into NA. STEAM counts the individual PC hours logged in game and last played date. This you might not like... The bling gifts offered need to be time sensitive, with a short-ish expiry but the bling offered needs to be BLING. He is practically forced to login or the gifts expires. Is the entire DLC pack with the Herc & LeR bling enough or just too much? Now, some whiney b/tch will say these vets are getting rewarded for staying away. Sort of true, but think what I’m trying to achieve here OR could you think of another type of incentive? Or don’t try to get them back... They left, fcuk ‘em. The old customer and the new customer will need to be managed slightly differently but I think post Currency is a good time to go for the vets... Finally, … @admin would get a nice side effect here. These vets would do the tutorials on their own without a push. They’d be fresh eyes, asking questions we may not of thought of and yet not a noobie. I’m not sure this is one of the better ideas, but am interested to hear what you all think... Thanks for reading guys, and I promise that’s the last one for a while Norfolk nChance [ELITE] SHORT VERSION Going to the Opera to listen to Mozart’s “Magic Flute” played in A minor will have every Pedo clambering for a ticket. Likewise, we need to get our old Junkies clambering back into using again. Target them with a few bits of bling to help soften the blow (excuse the pun) back into Naval Action. This left any later will make it harder for a veteran to return as the mechanic as moved to far away... Now please go read the rest of the POST. Edited July 25, 2018 by Norfolk nChance 5
Ronald Speirs Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 I have played this game on and off since 2014 and it feels like it hasn't made proper solid breakthroughs, Economy and proper economics and building should have been a big focus in support of a PvE experience, everyone knows that a proper PvE and Economy is what makes a better PvP player base, focusing on PvP is where this game fell apart as its didnt have the rest of the infrastructure to support that niche PvP aspect of the game and that's why the gave never really flourished to is potential, most of the population love to create and build empires and wealth, more time needs to be focused on the PvE, Crafting/ Economics of the game if this ever hopes to do a complete turn around and comeback to make the game more enjoyable to everyone, especially those who love the era but just the ship combat alone isn't enough to make them want to stay. 9
victor Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Otto Kohl said: No reasonable person will come back to a game that costs more nerves than pleasure. A short yet very effective summary. 2
AeRoTR Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 I feel after complete ui patch with currency ( hope it does not fuck up like DLC ships), and after the mission update, this game will be good / positive. At that point I hope people will start to play again. 2
Fenris Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 43 minutes ago, Otto Kohl said: No reasonable person will come back to a game that costs more nerves than gives pleasure. This game development is like a dog chasing its own tail. Ouch...Headshot :) 1
VirtuallyIdiotic Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) Let others step up and fill J's role. Veterans leave new players fill their shoes all the time. We must accept that these veterans are likely not coming back, push forward comrades. Edited July 25, 2018 by Davos Seaworth 3
HachiRoku Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) Server downtime is why Jeheil cannot play. It's in his prime time. I have talked to him on steam and ts about it. Back in the day he had to come on at the strangest times to pvp with us. Edited July 25, 2018 by HachiRoku 2
Norfolk nChance Posted July 25, 2018 Author Posted July 25, 2018 Just now, HachiRoku said: Server downtime is why Jebel cannot play. It's in his prime time. I have talked to him on steam and ts about it. Back in the day he had to come on at the strangest times to pvp with us. that's correct 8pm,. One reason why him and few [ARMED] stayed with NA-Legends
victor Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 42 minutes ago, Davos Seaworth said: Let others step up and fill J's role. Veterans leave new players fill their shoes all the time. We must accept that these veterans are likely not coming back, push forward comrades. 1
Norfolk nChance Posted July 25, 2018 Author Posted July 25, 2018 Thank you all for the feedback Guys. Much appreciated as always. @Otto Kohl “Headshot” takes the top quoted prize “No reasonable person will come back to a game that costs more nerves than gives pleasure. This game development is like a dog chasing its own tail.” and I thought my “Magic Flute” joke was Dark... The Partial Materials Wipe is just around the corner. Streamlining and improving crafting. This when rolled out would give the perfect base for the REAL Currency deployment. Surely a brilliant move added with the OW UI update. You all should be happy and looking forward to it. So, Why so serious...? You’ve lost faith and stopped believing. Things that never were a grind now are. I did a NA-Legends Guide. In it I asked readers to do the “Jack & Danny Quiz” to show grind is different from hard work and the reward has NO influence on performance. This was to show Gun Grind wasn’t the problem. Do me a favor, give me 2 minutes and try the quiz https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1284386035 You guys feel a lot like “Jack”. No reference point, no context and no perspective. The Dev’s need to fill this information in. We need to see a plan and be kept in touch with timely updated information. My request for @admin to re-write the Announcement POSTs is needed because they the post now totally conflict with each other. In the dark here... This took me a fcuk of a long time... http://forum.game-labs.net/topic/26423-idea-norfolk-compares-apples-to-oranges-to-avoid-a-lemon/ I genuinely tried to look inside and cherry pick the best parts. The Funny thing is NA-OW nearly stands up to both of the other games AND THIS IS WHY WE FEEL THE GRIND. Its Potential... The thing is [WoWs] with 150million client access and huge resources is still no where near has intense as “The Three Battles for George Town” we did on [PvP Global]. The RvR the Battle Reports from @Sir Texas Sir The wife saying its 3am WTF are you doing... But NA-OW is just not quite there No @Jeheil... Nobody wanted @Jeheil back. Not because anybody disliked him, they didn’t want the guy to suffer the same abject misery you are experiencing at the moment. Maybe a couple thought “they left, fcuk ‘em...” The same complaints continue with PvE Exp, the whole economy, PvP and now DLC super ships to boot. @Wraith makes the quote am looking for... “The thing that made Jeheil and his reporting so important, and which motivated so many of the vets was RvR. And let’s be honest, RvR is a pretty mundane affair these days...” This is the Out of Game context driving in game content. The major success of [WoWs] is the out of game content that drives the in-game world. NA-OW is completely missing this point. It is why this weaker game is such a huge success. This is not a dig at @admin and the Dev’s. I want this Game to really succeed. Listen to your testers @admin they don’t sound all enthusiastic at all. Do the “Jack & Danny Quiz” you are so close. They suffer grind because of unfulfilled Potential... Not because the game is rubbish... Norfolk. My last post for a while. o7 3
victor Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 37 minutes ago, Norfolk nChance said: /snip But .................. 1
Jeheil Posted July 27, 2018 Posted July 27, 2018 (edited) First off thanks NnC for the kind words. I am torn with NA, I want to come back, more coz sailing with Armed was fun, drop, paladin, wacko etc etc, top blokes, pretty much the whole clan. And of course the broader community, many friends made. But 8pm shutdown...leaves no time between coming home from work or after restart to do anything particularly solid. I tried being a weekend warrior...but always felt a bit of a tag-a-long. I tell myself I will be back. But its a game that needs a good block of time to get the most out of...and it simply doesn't fit right now. So I am waiting for a fuller release, I mean shutdown every day shouldn't even be a thing....economy/port turnovers should just happen realtime..then one shutdown per week or somesuch. Anyhow...I do miss my NA and those I played with...but can't fit into life....needs a lotto win. Edited July 27, 2018 by Jeheil 3
Busterbloodvessel Posted July 27, 2018 Posted July 27, 2018 (edited) @Jeheil : Apologies, I though you were dead. If your not returning till full launch or lotto win then I'll be dead. In case you do drop off your perch which charity should we contribute towards? Buster (no flowers) Edited July 27, 2018 by Busterbloodvessel 1
Norfolk nChance Posted July 27, 2018 Author Posted July 27, 2018 @Jeheil I couldn’t have pulled off the OP using any other Vet name. Norfolk nChance [ELITE]
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