Player Ship Selection Poll 2018?

[Fluffy Fishy]

Its now been over 6 months since the last player ship selection poll has closed and we voted to have the Montañés Wrecker and Téméraire made into the game, is there anything in the pipework to support a new poll?

It would be really good to see another focussed poll, especially one that aims to get a few under-represent nations and class types put into the game like last time, we could really do with a few more 4th rates now for example, plus another 3rd and 2nd too but I appreciate that these things take a lot of time and money to implement properly.

On the plus side, now we have the Premium ship model hopefully there will be a bit more money to support the development of some more ships into the game.

Will we be starting to collect some suggestions any time soon?

[Fenris]

Lol...

Voted for Wrecker, Montanes and Temeraire, and we got the crappy Xebec and Hercules, which causes more issues than providing anything useful atm.

Keep up the "voting".

[Fenris]

19 minutes ago, Fluffy Fishy said:

there will be a bit more money to support the development of some more ships into the game

I don`t want more ships in the game. I want a game which is not boring. NA is atm.

[Fluffy Fishy]

15 minutes ago, Intrepido said:

I think another first rate, one second rate and one more super frigate would be nice.

I quite like the idea of the 100 gun Russian Chesma class, either that or a more typical Spanish 1st rate of 112/114 guns. For 2nd rates, it would be great to see an actual 80 gunner instead of the 88 we have in Bucentaure. I still think it would do the game a lot of good to have a few more 3rds and 4ths, plus there are a lot more to pick from too, like having a nice 50 ship of the line.

I made a list a while back of ships I'd most like to see a while back here, that covers what I think would be good if you can stomach reading my warblings:

 

8 minutes ago, Intrepido said:

11 minutes ago, Banished Privateer said:

We still haven't goten ships from 2017 and 2018 polls, let's wait

Thats true, we are still missing the spanish frigate Diana and the danish second rate Christian VII.

Christian VII and Diana are both from 2016

[AeRoTR]

Ships are at the very end of my list, when it comes to NA. 

The game can get released with current ship line up, but still needs vital content and improvements before doing so. 

Sorting out ui completely, tutorials, guides, tooltip, some career progression, tweaking of mechanics for missions, safezones etc. Newbie friendly introduction etc. 

[Wind]

Xebec was spotted 2 years ago. Hercules could be a recent project. Rates will take forever to model based on low funds issue that Developers pointed to us. 

Edited June 20, 2018 by Wind

[Gregory Rainsborough]

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

TRIREMES

[Fenris]

22 minutes ago, Gregory Rainsborough said:

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

TRIREMES

[VirtuallyIdiotic]

Let them finish the actual game first and the other ships they stated they will work on. Once those are complete ask for more in-game content and more ships. With more ships hopefully content for RvR, PvP, and even crafting will have a stronger variety than what we have now where there has become in many clans certain ships you must bring to participate and still be competitive. 

[Georg Fromm]

Monitor for all players, who hate sailing and wooden ships. Give us CSS Virgina and the South will rise again.

[Thonys]

huh... where is the poll...

and i chose the:  Zeven Provincien ( wrecker class)

still waiting for that:   dutch ship -  where are the dutch ships?  -  i see dutch  flags!!,  but i don't see the ship - what is attached to that flag...very very , very disappointing... almost unbearable for this game ..seriously what are you  all thinking, no dutch ship in a theatre where it belongs in the first place...

seriously, very, very, disappointing :

almost horrible !!

i go even further and say this is a BIAS game , if there are no dutch ships in it...BIAS game yes that's what it is ...

with a flag only you cant win a battle 

seriously think about it a dutch flag and .......what else???? 

its half a game you  all play half ...a game ...OMG

 

 

 

lets make history......

Edited June 21, 2018 by Thonys

[Thonys]

17 minutes ago, Intrepido said:

I thought exactly the same when one of the most important navies of the century, the spanish one, have only one ship ingame.

at least you have one

but i totally understand what you are saying.

someone needs history lessons (with the correct books)

Come sail your ships around me (Come sail your ships around me)

And burn your bridges down (And burn your bridges down)

We make a little history, baby (We make a little history, baby)

Every time you come around (Every time you come around)

 

 

Edited June 21, 2018 by Thonys

[Fluffy Fishy]

44 minutes ago, Thonys said:

46 minutes ago, Intrepido said:

I thought exactly the same when one of the most important navies of the century, the spanish one, have only one ship ingame.

at least you have one

but i totally understand what you are saying.

someone needs history lessons (with the correct books)

Come sail your ships around me (Come sail your ships around me)

And burn your bridges down (And burn your bridges down)

We make a little history, baby (We make a little history, baby)

Every time you come around (Every time you come around)

 

At least the Spanish have one and two in development, while the Dutch have one in development too, similarly to the Danish who also have one. Think how the Portuguese and Venetians feel, two of the most important navies throughout history and they haven't even got a consolidatory hat with some coins in it, a Turkish vessel might be fun to see too.

Saying that, the Portugese meta would maybe be a little strong, they really don't mess about with their broadside weightings with their average 74 having almost double the broadside poundage of HMS Victory and even makes Santissima and L'Ocean look like overgrown babies.

[Fluffy Fishy]

11 hours ago, Intrepido said:

Portuguese navy did very little remarkable in the XVIII century.

Venice... no idea after Lepanto.

Both navies are far more significant for their role in the 18th Century than America, yet we practically have half the US fleet modelled. Both fleets are also much larger than the US too, Portugal taking part in multiple naval wars over the century and Venice while less so, they did take part in a major war against the Ottomans in 1714-18 with multiple significan naval engagements and a long campaign against thr Barbary states between 1784-92, a war far more significant in terms of scale and effecy but less recognised than the following US-Barbary wars. The Venetian navy also provided a large force of 5,000 men to the Royal Navy in the American War of independence, although no ships were sent.

The Dutch were far beyond their height in the 18th century too, but at the end it doesn't really matter, what matters is having interesting and varied ships and one of the best ways to get interesting and varied ships is to make the most of different designs and doctrines from different nationalities, especially nations that break off the big three of Britian, Spain and France.

Edited June 21, 2018 by Fluffy Fishy

[Haratik]

On 6/21/2018 at 5:01 AM, Intrepido said:

Portuguese navy did very little remarkable in the XVIII century.

Venice... no idea after Lepanto.

Again your ignorance on the topic is confounding.  The British would have been even more hard pressed on the waves if the Portuguese court had not offered their ships to assist the British in the war against Napoleon.  Were they the sea power they were 200 years ago?  No, but they were a presence in the Mediterranean regardless, as well as the Atlantic, even in the Channel.  You don't have to have a famous battle under your wing (Trafalgar, etc) to be important to a cause.  Every bit counts, every ship counts, and unlike the Spanish, the Portuguese had well trained crews with well designed and maintained ships, no doubt a British influence.

[_Alucard_]

2 hours ago, Haratik said:

and unlike the Spanish, the Portuguese had well trained crews with well designed and maintained ships, no doubt a British influence.

Can you  please elaborate a little bit about that sentence?  Saying that the Spanish had bad trained crews, bad designed and maintained ships is very easy but I want you to go ahead and explain us all why you say this.

[Haratik]

On 6/22/2018 at 1:48 PM, _Alucard_ said:

Can you  please elaborate a little bit about that sentence?  Saying that the Spanish had bad trained crews, bad designed and maintained ships is very easy but I want you to go ahead and explain us all why you say this.

I never said Spanish ships were of poor design, but the crews, while good at seamanship, were poor at gunnery (essential in naval warfare), and typically lacked the stomach to fight, usually because their naval commanders knew the aforementioned fact.  I've covered the topic before, you should go look for the posts.

[_Alucard_]

On 6/23/2018 at 8:51 PM, Haratik said:

I never said Spanish ships were of poor design, but the crews, while good at seamanship, were poor at gunnery (essential in naval warfare), and typically lacked the stomach to fight, usually because their naval commanders knew the aforementioned fact.  I've covered the topic before, you should go look for the posts.

You should go and read more books. Spanish ships were among the finest, and you saying that "the crews lacked the stomach to fight" means that your opinion is directly discarded.

 

[Hethwill, the Red Duke]

Attrition takes its toll on crews and officer classes alike.

Spanish Empire been "under siege" at sea since the late 1500's and fighting all over to keep the territories logistics going. So naturally the variation was immense around the globe for the Spanish navy. 

GB felt the attrition well, especially fighting Revolutionaire France and its Allies. Just look at the quality of crews in 1812-1814, nothing compared to 1790's generation

 

 

[Haratik]

2 hours ago, Intrepido said:

Yeah thats why the Santisima fighted several ships at the same time for hours at Trafalgar, the Glorioso almost the same 50 years before, Princesa in 1740...

Again your ignorance on the topic is confounding.

Independent ship crews depended on their captains for training, see the Redoubtable at Trafalgar while the rest of the French fleet was for the most part incapable of heavy action in ship to ship action.  This had little effect on the Navy's outlook as a whole.

Please don't use "no u" as a rejoinder, it just makes you look as insignificant as your posts.

[Haratik]

7 hours ago, Intrepido said:

Your posts are full of arrogance dude, git gud.

So far, my insignificant posts have made more good than yours. So just imagine how insignificant can be yours.

My posts?  Fine, I can see why you think they're arrogant, probably because I did the research and came to the conclusions I have.  Please, do tell, how much research have you done?  I'm not going to measure myself against you, there's no point, it's no contest.  I applaud your nationalistic fervor, but you could use a dose of humility and a spoonful of reason.

[Haratik]

I would certainly say I've done more research on the Spanish in the years leading up to Trafalgar than you or most others here, just like Fluffy Fishy has done with the Venetians.  Amateur enthusiast for sure, but I won't claim more than that.

Now if you're done being a child and wish to actually debate, I'm more than willing to, but if you have no wish to do more than trade insults, I'll be done with this thread and you.

[Samuel Smith]

could we have a update on the poll and the progress please.