Night crews

[Slim McSauce]

What is it you're asking from KoC? to not try to win? When behavior becomes toxic then it should be shut down, but if your reason as to why US has no 9est onward fleets to fight (the original point of the thread need I remind you) is that France is too good, then you're wrong.

Accuse KoC for being too good, doesn't answer the question why the US is not willing to fight fleet engagements of equal BR, even at their capital where all the advantage is theirs in numbers of guns. Yet you hold WO and BLANC to a standard above your own? As far as I see one side is actively getting a fight, and they're good players because of it. The other side is actively refusing fights and are paying the consequence.

Ultimately it shouldn't be up to good players to not try, it should be up to bad players to get good and your refusal to fight is your own prerogative unless the devs want to come in and lower the skill ceiling of the game so people feel like they have a chance.

 

 

[HachiRoku]

47 minutes ago, Slim Jimmerson said:

What is it you're asking from KoC? to not try to win? When behavior becomes toxic then it should be shut down, but if your reason as to why US has no 9est onward fleets to fight (the original point of the thread need I remind you) is that France is too good, then you're wrong.

Accuse KoC for being too good, doesn't answer the question why the US is not willing to fight fleet engagements of equal BR, even at their capital where all the advantage is theirs in numbers of guns. Yet you hold WO and BLANC to a standard above your own? As far as I see one side is actively getting a fight, and they're good players because of it. The other side is actively refusing fights and are paying the consequence.

Ultimately it shouldn't be up to good players to not try, it should be up to bad players to get good and your refusal to fight is your own prerogative unless the devs want to come in and lower the skill ceiling of the game so people feel like they have a chance.

 

 

Bad players don't get good. If someone is going to be good he will be noticed before he gets to flag captain. 

[Hammy]

15 hours ago, Nelsons Barrel said:

My experience with WO is so far that this is clan tries everything possible to not have to fight on equal BR or when it is comes to those situations a revenge fleet sits outside just to make sure you don't return home with your ship.  

I can understand every player who does not like to play this game of overkill  constantly. 

For me this is why, I can even remember a time recently when we heard of a French fleet around KPR, we decided to turn up knowing that  if we do have a battle there will be more of you waiting outside. The battle we entered first was pretty level, but then your guys started individually leaving the battle, which we thought was hilarious as you always talking shit about never leaving men behind, and there was no way 2 of your guys were getting away. But this was because you wanted to get as many out as possible sitting outside to gank us. So then when we did end up leaving the battle there were 3 times as many of you, and even some brits wanted to tag us and not you!!

Its a mixture of knowing your never going to have a fair fight, and even if you somehow do, there be a gank fleet waiting outside, add on the constant shit talking = why bother

[vazco]

On 26/03/2018 at 1:43 PM, Christendom said:

Pretty much this.

You very seldom fight when the BR is close or not in your favor.  I remember one fight in Swedeland where it was a 4 on 4 of sorts and you guys ran and got out of the battle and to our surprise we found 3x our BR sitting outside waiting for us.

You don’t want fair fights or even good fights.  You just want someone to be your punching bag for your evening zerg of players.  And yes, you are the nighttime zerg.  You know you outnumber most people in the evening patrol zones but you still roll out in big ships just to dominate.  Why should people oblige you?

(...)

Your behavior in game directly translates into why you have no content.  Time for you to move WO and breakup that Zerg.  Or just keep whining on here like a fool.

For the first time I agree with Christendom (the part I quoted).

You're the reason I started a post about a need of equal BR in Patrol Zones. It's not pleasant to be always ganked by a 1st rate fleet. In night time we could organize 2-4 players, however being ganked all the time is simply boring and annoying.

It's not only that you discourage me from even trying to organize a fleet, you also scared away all the groups similar to mine, which I could fight with  on equal terms in EST time.

I still remember your question in "how to fix RvR" thread - "why do we need equal BR, just organize yourself". Well, that's why we need equal BR - to give you and me some content, as otherwise people even won't start organizing themselves.

[vazco]

On 26/03/2018 at 4:21 PM, Slim McSauce said:

What is it you're asking from KoC? to not try to win? When behavior becomes toxic then it should be shut down, but if your reason as to why US has no 9est onward fleets to fight (the original point of the thread need I remind you) is that France is too good, then you're wrong.

Accuse KoC for being too good, doesn't answer the question why the US is not willing to fight fleet engagements of equal BR, even at their capital where all the advantage is theirs in numbers of guns. Yet you hold WO and BLANC to a standard above your own? As far as I see one side is actively getting a fight, and they're good players because of it. The other side is actively refusing fights and are paying the consequence.

Ultimately it shouldn't be up to good players to not try, it should be up to bad players to get good and your refusal to fight is your own prerogative unless the devs want to come in and lower the skill ceiling of the game so people feel like they have a chance.

 

 

My experiene with KoC is mostly ganks, and a few even fights. Being able to gank is something different from being good.

That's what KoC is to me:

I blame mostly game's design, not WO. If WO would behave differently, there would be another clan who would use a winning strategy even if it kills content.

You can read the whole thread here:

 

Edited March 28, 2018 by vazco

[TheLoneWolf]

Vazco, how about posting your battles as Prussians during eu timezone.  You will notice that the Prussians and Swedes adopt identical tactics.  The screenshot you posted was outside eu primetime.  I do agree that a BR mechanic should be implemented to reduced the ganking, something like max 1.5 to 2x BR with incrementing BR if players join the weaker side

 

Edited March 28, 2018 by TheLoneWolf

[Christendom]

I'd like to go to the patrol zones in the evenings and have a couple decent fights,  but I don't feel like fighting in 2nd or 1st rates.  WO/Blanc COULD roll out in frigates with their numbers and dominate, but they don't.  Like I said previous, they don't want GOOD fights, just ones they can win easily for marks and forum screenshots.  They've effectively ruined the patrol zones in the evenings now.  

And yes LoneWolf, the patrol zones are a similar story during the daytime with the Swedes, Russians and Prussians rolling out in big ships.  The difference is that the population is typically 3x higher than the evening ones and more than 1 nation is capable of doing it.  The only good fights Kingy has posted of the patrol zones have been against daytime crews.  Get my point?

Lets take you for example LoneWolf.  By the time you joined France they were already the dominant evening power on the server.  You joined them anyway....for the challenge I guess.  You could of rejoined your pirate buddies or some of the other nations that need players.  Nope, you and queen just wanted easy marks because ALT farming gets reported now.  The evening French crew zergs it up, rolls out in big ships and destroys the competition.  Then cries on the forums when they get bored.

And jesus wept.

Edited March 28, 2018 by Christendom

[IndianaGeoff]

Good players get together in a gang. Make life miserable for a nation. New players quit after getting ganked over and over. Nation quits playing with some players swapping nations and joining the gang. Gang bitches about not having anyone to fight.

Same old song.

[TheLoneWolf]

5 hours ago, Christendom said:

I'd like to go to the patrol zones in the evenings and have a couple decent fights,  but I don't feel like fighting in 2nd or 1st rates.  WO/Blanc COULD roll out in frigates with their numbers and dominate, but they don't.  Like I said previous, they don't want GOOD fights, just ones they can win easily for marks and forum screenshots.  They've effectively ruined the patrol zones in the evenings now.  

And yes LoneWolf, the patrol zones are a similar story during the daytime with the Swedes, Russians and Prussians rolling out in big ships.  The difference is that the population is typically 3x higher than the evening ones and more than 1 nation is capable of doing it.  The only good fights Kingy has posted of the patrol zones have been against daytime crews.  Get my point?

Lets take you for example LoneWolf.  By the time you joined France they were already the dominant evening power on the server.  You joined them anyway....for the challenge I guess.  You could of rejoined your pirate buddies or some of the other nations that need players.  Nope, you and queen just wanted easy marks because ALT farming gets reported now.  The evening French crew zergs it up, rolls out in big ships and destroys the competition.  Then cries on the forums when they get bored.

And jesus wept.

Queen and I had joined Poland and none of pvp global joined.  Kind of interesting that you joined the more populous Russians instead of the pirates that could have benefitted from what you were stating... We wanted some action so French was a logical choice and USA and GB were not options.

[Vile Executioner]

On 3/26/2018 at 5:10 AM, King of Crowns said:

this post is not about our hunting habbits this post is about getting explanations as to why no other usa players can seem to organize a fleet?

I’m from USA. The majority of the population in naval action does not wish to play the game at 2-3AM with you. It’s not about USA players. The people you are searching for is East asain at this time I think.

Edited March 29, 2018 by Vile Executioner
Mistyped ‘the’

[Lovec1990]

57 minutes ago, Vile Executioner said:

I’m from USA. The majority of the population in naval action does not wish to play the game at 2-3AM with you. It’s not about USA players. The people you are searching for is East asain at this time I think.

Well this is the main reason USA is strong at night time becouse when Other nation players come online time in USA will be too late for most USA players 

[IndianaGeoff]

Not to mention that an Asian player is fighting a US player from the future.  Since the US player is a day  behind, he doesn't stand a chance.  <snicker>