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Posted
5 minutes ago, admin said:

Regarding BR

The formula needs some minor tweaks to incorporate Spike damage, and dps at 500m. That will make it perfect and will fix some strange differences.

Thats sound like BR calc for an arena game like NAL but in my opinion it doesnt fit to NA.

Posted
59 minutes ago, Bearwall said:

Paintings are not exactly the best source of reference since they were often made for dramatical purposes AND they were often painted exactly for their decisive nature.. Combat reports from RN or other navies are far more accurate..

So did you, err, read any combat reports?

It's basically unheard-of for two frigates to get in a fight without at least a topmast coming down. If nobody was dismasted, it's probably because one side got totally crushed in 15 minutes.

Of course, even when Chesapeake was captured in 15 minutes, the decisive factor was rig damage. Her jibs were shredded and she luffed up to get boarded.

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Posted (edited)

I went out with a basic cutter an hour ago (after the last patch) for a 7th rate combat mission. I killed my foe and i had as reward a little more of 31.000 Gold. Before the patch my average payment was 23-24.000 gold. Same ship with same cannons and same buffs. Did the bounty rise too?

Edited by blubasso
Posted (edited)
Just now, Christendom said:

could someone please explain to me....like I'm a 5 year old.....why the aggie has a higher BR rating than the Wasa (which just got a buff)?

because.....:mellow:

One is a 3rd rate the other a 4th rate.

Wait....:huh:

Edited by Slim Jimmerson
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Posted (edited)

Lower caliber guns have higher dps.

Assuming you penetrate and can shoot constantly.

This is where I believe the algorithm gone wrong.

 

Edited by TrackTerror
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Posted (edited)

 @admin Please tell me it's not true!!

That could not be the real new BR!!! How you can justify this new BR???!!! Wasa less than Agua? Bellona less than 3rd rate?? Niaguara less than Snow??? Endymion less than Trincomalée???

OMG guys, did you just spent this night drinking vodka ???!!!!

Edited by Comeonche
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Posted

We got the perfect nerf for the Wasa one month ago, and now you remake it totally OP........ 290 BR for a Wasa?!!! How it could happen, that's a hello kittying Bellona with the speed of a frigate:!!!!! 

 

Posted

Can we all be a bit less histrionic regarding BR here?...  

1) Its a game.

2) They explained how they came up with these numbers

3) They explained that they will be adjusted 

4) Its a game.

5) Its.  A.  Game.

 

Looking forward to testing the new sail profiles.

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Posted (edited)
20 minutes ago, TrackTerror said:

Lower caliber guns have higher dps.

Assuming you penetrate and can shoot constantly.

This is where I believe the algorithm gone wrong.

 

I think it's funny that DPS is considered a thing when a lot of folks have looked at the numbers and have consistently said that always fitting the best Cannon you can load on a ship is better than fitting a smaller caliber.

example, why would you ever fit a 24pd cannon when you can fit a 32pd or 42pd cannon on that deck.

Edited by Teutonic
Posted
1 minute ago, Comeonche said:

Wait, you really agree to this new Battlerating???!

There's a lot of other good stuff in there. Frankly I find the lack of discussion on the new UI, disturbing

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Posted
Just now, Slim Jimmerson said:

There's a lot of other good stuff in there. Frankly I find the lack of discussion on the new UI, disturbing

The new UI is intersting too, but this new BR is a hello kittying joke for me. 

An exemple, if you do a dual fight between a Constitution and a Wasa, I can assure you the Wasa will always win!!

Posted
27 minutes ago, Comeonche said:

The new UI is intersting too, but this new BR is a hello kittying joke for me. 

An exemple, if you do a dual fight between a Constitution and a Wasa, I can assure you the Wasa will always win!!

I am so happy after having kept my 2 Wasas...

Posted
4 minutes ago, Comeonche said:

They give us the nerf of tha Wasa we were all waiting, and now they make him again OP; it's ridiculous

To be fair, Wasa HP is 6k now, after the buff (was around 5500). Agamemnon has 6k HP, Constitution has 6.5k HP, 3rd rate and Bellona have 7.4k

This hasn't made the Wasa OP

Posted
1 minute ago, EliteDelta said:



This hasn't made the Wasa OP

He has a OP fire power, so he is, OP, 

Big fire power -----------> easy demast, easy reload shock etc........

Posted
17 minutes ago, Comeonche said:

The new UI is intersting too, but this new BR is a hello kittying joke for me. 

An exemple, if you do a dual fight between a Constitution and a Wasa, I can assure you the Wasa will always win!!

Not only that, but the Wasa is a 3rd rate, It's not even in the same class as an agga. It really is a silly mistake. (must be right?)

 

Posted
4 minutes ago, Comeonche said:

He has a OP fire power, so he is, OP, 

Big fire power -----------> easy demast, easy reload shock etc........

Its a 3rd rate. Bellona has the same gun setup, so that is true for Bellona also. Is Bellona OP?

Posted
Just now, EliteDelta said:

Its a 3rd rate. Bellona has the same gun setup, so that is true for Bellona also. Is Bellona OP?

He's specifically talking about the BR of the Wasa which is 290, while agga is 300.

Does that make sense in any way? I don't think so.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Slim Jimmerson said:

He's specifically talking about the BR of the Wasa which is 290, while agga is 300.

Does that make sense in any way? I don't think so.

Ah, well he only mentioned firepower. 

That BR list is a complete joke, so I agree there. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, EliteDelta said:

Its a 3rd rate. Bellona has the same gun setup, so that is true for Bellona also. Is Bellona OP?

Bellona have a higher BR!!! Wasa should have BR close to the Bellona!

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