RedNeckMilkMan Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, vazco said: The smallest nation is Prussia, Commonwealth is second smallest. Prussians have more players. less ports.
VirtuallyIdiotic Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, vazco said: The smallest nation is Prussia, Commonwealth is second smallest. according to the latest numbers released from Devs a few weeks back I believe it stated Poland was the smallest with 96 or 98 and Prussia with 113 or something around there. So honestly there is very little difference in the size of either faction to be considered smaller than the other.
vazco Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Davos Seasworth said: according to the latest numbers released from Devs a few weeks back I believe it stated Poland was the smallest with 96 or 98 and Prussia with 113 or something around there. So honestly there is very little difference in the size of either faction to be considered smaller than the other. That's right. I ment number of ports.
Batman Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, RedNeckMilkMan said: Prussians have more players. less ports. If a nation has more ports than they can defend, they usually get cut down to a size at which they can defend. Happened to every nation at one point. Usually due to multiple nations ganging up on a smaller one. Also kind of a dick move. 1
Gregory Rainsborough Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) It's not been one incident. I've been attacked twice by Polish guys while in a trader, one a PFK guy and the other Iroquois. Les Cayes was not attacked last time in return for the Poles guaranteeing that ALL Polish clans would respect the agreement made. This was clearly false. This has come about because the Poles (not with Iroquois) are using loopholes to go against the spirit of the agreement and we see this as you withdrawing from the agreement we made prior. Yes, attacking escort ships because of your failure to disclose information like a rogue clan means that you can't attack them and this was discussed with your diplomat and he agreed. Edited February 11, 2018 by Gregory Rainsborough
Iroquois Confederacy Posted February 11, 2018 Author Posted February 11, 2018 36 minutes ago, Gregory Rainsborough said: because of your failure to disclose information like a rogue clan 1
Iroquois Confederacy Posted February 11, 2018 Author Posted February 11, 2018 I mean, I made it pretty and everything. 5
Barbancourt Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Banished Privateer said: I am happy to see Les Cayes under attack. Poland lost its position in Haiti (and players) after being defeated by BF and RUBLI. The only reason why they remained in Haiti is because BF/RUBLI didn't plan to annihilate Poland and Poland was/is protected as "underdog" nation by bigger brothers and "server police". Poland found its place in Panama, that's where they should settle down as nation. Haiti was always a hot PvP/RvR area with valuable ports. Who is this that you claim is protecting us? Switzerland? Siam? I don't plan to leave my estates in Haiti. Panama is just a quiet area to vacation, but it's an area to grow old and soft, not to prosper. 3
HachiRoku Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 4 hours ago, Davos Seasworth said: according to the latest numbers released from Devs a few weeks back I believe it stated Poland was the smallest with 96 or 98 and Prussia with 113 or something around there. So honestly there is very little difference in the size of either faction to be considered smaller than the other. Thank you for defending today man. We had a nice fight and If you want fights you know who to come to. You want to know why we really took les cayes? In this battle we were tagged besides 1 sqaure fort and had to kite you out of port away from towers and wait for wind to shift. Your fellow clan members were calling us cowards and once we were ready to fight and started to sink you, you all ran to forts. No matter what kind of pvp we have around les cayes you drag the battles to forts and try to gank us non stop. This battle was the battle that forced us to take les cayes. We took your forts and not your port and that was an impulsive decision on my part, Nethros and SLRN. There were other things that played roles but this is what made us carebear AI and that is something you need to force us to do. People on the forums don't know what kind of GB we are now. We don't have standards. We don't care about winning or loosing in battles. We want fights but we don't like flipping ports....No one in our nation can get it done. I cannot ask players to do anything I will not do myself. We probably won't flip another port for a week now and if we do it will be impulsive I like the nation atm and GB has never been this fun. We struggle for pvpers believe it or not but the struggle is something I have come to like by simply not caring about anything. What happens happens man 3
Iroquois Confederacy Posted February 12, 2018 Author Posted February 12, 2018 Every fight has two sides. Instead of turning to fight, you kited for about 10km, and half an hour. Finally, we said, "Well, if they're not going to fight, let us head home." So we did, and you turned around to chase. We didn't want to deal with indefinite kiting/mast sniping.
HachiRoku Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Iroquois Confederacy said: Every fight has two sides Yeah the truth and lies
Iroquois Confederacy Posted February 12, 2018 Author Posted February 12, 2018 I would love to see a video to see who turned first I know for certain what was discussed on our side. I would be very curious as to whether there was a video somewhere to back it up, showing that we turned to leave before you turned to chase.
HachiRoku Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, Iroquois Confederacy said: I would love to see a video to see who turned first I know for certain what was discussed on our side. I would be very curious as to whether there was a video somewhere to back it up, showing that we turned to leave before you turned to chase. You don't understand what fighting for wind is? There is a reason for everything we do. 2
vazco Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 2 hours ago, HachiRoku said: GF WP Commonwealth players should know how divisions of nation work. First you lost Saint Louis and decided to not to fight back with help that you were offered by French and Prussians, to not to anger Brits. Brits were angered anyway. Now Brits offer you peace for compliance. It won't end there. You will be attacked by Brits or other nations until you loose all your possesions in Haiti. The only way for you to defend Haiti is to get a trained PB fleet which would defend them. Diplomacy won't change anything, it can only slow down the inevitable for you. I believe noone will probably attack you once you're down to only Panaman ports. It's not a very impressive fate though. You have to start to fight back somewhere, even if outside of Haiti - that's my advice to you. 1
Urchin Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 10 hours ago, Iroquois Confederacy said: As for any personal involvement: I only sail for Poland as they are the smallest faction in the game, giving me the most OW PvP opportunities. I could just as easily change factions to any other and not care one whit. If your major causus belli is one privateering type doing the privateering thing... there are issues at a fundamental level. "privateering type doing the privateering thing" Fair enough but there is a time and a place. Not a smart move to attack trade ships next to your nations most valuable port just for a few simple PVP marks. Being "Rogue" isn't an excuse to actively go out of your way to hinder and frustrate your own nations larger ambitions.
Lucky L Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Maybe we didn't do well ago ,and in hard time long long time for some "good" ally against us all the time . But we will fight for our friends in nation all the time . o7, nation. This topic doesn't make any sense now , that's all .
Katastrophic Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 10 hours ago, HachiRoku said: Thank you for defending today man. We had a nice fight and If you want fights you know who to come to. You want to know why we really took les cayes? In this battle we were tagged besides 1 sqaure fort and had to kite you out of port away from towers and wait for wind to shift. Your fellow clan members were calling us cowards and once we were ready to fight and started to sink you, you all ran to forts. No matter what kind of pvp we have around les cayes you drag the battles to forts and try to gank us non stop. This battle was the battle that forced us to take les cayes. We took your forts and not your port and that was an impulsive decision on my part, Nethros and SLRN. There were other things that played roles but this is what made us carebear AI and that is something you need to force us to do. People on the forums don't know what kind of GB we are now. We don't have standards. We don't care about winning or loosing in battles. We want fights but we don't like flipping ports....No one in our nation can get it done. I cannot ask players to do anything I will not do myself. We probably won't flip another port for a week now and if we do it will be impulsive I like the nation atm and GB has never been this fun. We struggle for pvpers believe it or not but the struggle is something I have come to like by simply not caring about anything. What happens happens man You know those forts are like our green zone, the ones 95% of ur nation doesnt even dare to come out of or runs towards the moment they are spotted. But Yeah we are limiting ur battles and running to forts is soooo unfair. If this is the reason u are taking les cayes. Ur entire nation is even more pathetic and filled with hypocrits then i Thought. 1
Katastrophic Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Oh also anyone has an iron port they dont really need? Will trade for one of hachi’s ships and maybe munney
DaRho Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) Guys. The reasoning behind taking Les Cayes was of course, faulty, and (at least some) of Brits were looking for any reason to take it for a long time. Now it has happened and let's stop that shitstorm on forums. Let everyone themselves draw conclusions from the facts presented here already by Davos and Iro, and stop publicly insulting each-other at once. We were attacked, we organized and we stood against a bigger and more experienced nation giving our best, which unfortunately occurred to be not enough. We lost Les Cayes because we were unable to defend it and that is a main reason. Everything else I see as secondary. We now have more urgent things to focus on, like our economy for example and defending remaining ports from other nations trying to take advantage from the whole situation. Brits will need to deal with moral side of attacking the Captial of weakest nation in the game, themselves. End of topic. Edited February 12, 2018 by DaRho
victor Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 27 minutes ago, DaRho said: Brits will need to deal with moral side of attacking the Captial of weakest nation in the game, themselves.
DaRho Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 I'm glad at least someone has a sense of humor here
Tomasso il Fortunato Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 King have an angry moment :))) . Good Luck!
NethrosDefectus Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 @Iroquois Confederacy Please explain how screening against the Brits and taking part in hostility missions against the Brits is OW PvP and in no way is classed as interfering in RvR?
NethrosDefectus Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, DaRho said: Guys. The reasoning behind taking Les Cayes was of course, faulty, and (at least some) of Brits were looking for any reason to take it for a long time. Now it has happened and let's stop that shitstorm on forums. Let everyone themselves draw conclusions from the facts presented here already by Davos and Iro, and stop publicly insulting each-other at once. We were attacked, we organized and we stood against a bigger and more experienced nation giving our best, which unfortunately occurred to be not enough. We lost Les Cayes because we were unable to defend it and that is a main reason. Everything else I see as secondary. We now have more urgent things to focus on, like our economy for example and defending remaining ports from other nations trying to take advantage from the whole situation. Brits will need to deal with moral side of attacking the Captial of weakest nation in the game, themselves. End of topic. You guys have got to stop using this "smallest nation" shield you keep hiding behind. You constantly sail in large ganking fleets and have more than enough players for pvp. You use this "smallest nation" status as an excuse to avoid any fight somewhat close to even. Yes other nations are bigger, but most of their players focus on PvE over PvP. So I'd say on a PvP basis, your player numbers are probably on par with other nations. I might also suggest you guys would be happier on the PvE server as you seem so fond of arrangements that avoid ALL open world PvP. Edited February 12, 2018 by NethrosDefectus 4
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