Paints, yes this again

[Landsman]

I don't know why paints were removed but it seems a rather odd decision to remove content and potential PvP rewards in a mmo game that is lacking content as well as incentives to go out and PvP in the form of prestige rewards that don't widen the gap between 24/7 haves and average noob joe mc casual don't haves even more... Is there maybe anything on the russian forum section about WHY they were removed and when they will be back in what form? Did I miss when and where the devs gave a statement about it?

Would be nice to have some info on this... 

 

[Thonys]

2 minutes ago, Landsman said:

I don't know why paints were removed but it seems a rather odd decision to remove content and potential PvP rewards in a mmo game that is lacking content as well as incentives to go out and PvP in the form of prestige rewards that don't widen the gap between 24/7 haves and average noob joe mc casual don't haves even more... Is there maybe anything on the russian forum section about WHY they were removed and when they will be back in what form? Did I miss when and where the devs gave a statement about it?

Would be nice to have some info on this... 

 

It will be back after the great br rebalance 

they need to be graphically updated 

we see them back soon Tm

[Baptiste Gallouédec]

Is there any file & tool usable to modify the ones in game ? I would love to try making some historical variation and contribute.

[Sento de Benimaclet]

Please, paints in shop, not PVP rewards. Special upgrades, Wasa and PVP Marks are enough. 

[Guest]

I remember reading a post from admin where he said that they want to add paints so that they are similar to how we have skillbooks now, but he said such a change would require wiping all the ships currently in-game. 

I personally wouldn't mind all paints being similar to perm mods, but I guess we have to wait for this change. 

[HachiRoku]

49 minutes ago, EliteDelta said:

I remember reading a post from admin where he said that they want to add paints so that they are similar to how we have skillbooks now, but he said such a change would require wiping all the ships currently in-game. 

I personally wouldn't mind all paints being similar to perm mods, but I guess we have to wait for this change. 

i hope not, I really wont do any grinding again

[Sir Texas Sir]

13 minutes ago, HachiRoku said:

i hope not, I really wont do any grinding again

Why would you have to do grinding?  Ship wipe will happen on release, but new paints so they will work with NA:L and the game will be like ship knowledge. Once you learn it you will be able to put that paint on all ships of that type not just once and that is it.   The coding means it won't work on current ships so need for the wipe.  

That all fine but why not return current paints for us to have as drops and RvR rewards and such to make folks happy.  I loved they gave us a new paint as a NYE/X-mas gift, but it was for a ship I never really use (am grinding it out right now though).   So there is no reason they couldn't bring back any of the old paints.  Would be nice cause some of the ships look pretty bland or to much alike.  I use to love running all my boarding ships Pink and than Black ships for other PvP stuff and than I would have some goof set ups on other ships.

[Landsman]

3 hours ago, Sento de Benimaclet said:

Please, paints in shop, not PVP rewards.

Can have both, no problem...

[Landsman]

1 hour ago, Sir Texas Sir said:

So there is no reason they couldn't bring back any of the old paints.

Pretty much my point exactly. No matter what changes they have planned, there is no reason for not adding the existing paints as rewards now and delete them once they update the system? I mean we can have this bellona classic white and endymion northwind paintjob... why not the others too? People will be whiney and quitting over wiping ships and stuff either way and I really doubt anyone will care too much about paints to be wiped in comparison...

[H2O]

Have you seen latest 'holiday' Endymion paint? Zoom in and look at stern lines. Color is bleeding everywhere. It's so sloppy I could not believe what I saw. 

Edited January 22, 2018 by H2O

[Werewolf]

What H20 said. Give them time to rework the paints and implement them at the final wipe at release. Anything worth having is worth waiting for, paints are one of those things. It sucks we don't have them right NOW, but hey... give em time. The devs have worked their butts off through thick and thin, and I admit, I have faith in them.

[Landsman]

4 hours ago, Werewolf said:

give em time

But they are already done?? I'm not asking about new paints but the ones we had before the wipe...

[Landsman]

16 minutes ago, rediii said:

dropped ojt again for gamerelease

Just doesn't make sense, if they wipe it again anyways?

16 minutes ago, rediii said:

Maybe as DLCs

Yeah, this is what I thought but why haven't they done it already, if this is the plan? Or give them now as rewards and at release switch them to DLC or something?

[Landsman]

1 minute ago, rediii said:

There is no clear statement that there will be a assrtwipe at release.

Yeah, so then what's the point of holding the paints back? I mean what greater plan could they have with them, that would need so much time / work to be implemented? We had paint chests before and they worked just fine... sell them as DLC like forged papers and maybe also as PvP reward...and even if their plans with them change again... they can just change the way we get paints and delete the old ones if needs be...

[Corona Lisa]

15 minutes ago, Landsman said:

Yeah, this is what I thought but why haven't they done it already, if this is the plan?

They need months to realise Wasa and thicknessupgrades are broken, BR which is essential since PBs are BR-based are still not adjusted even tho there are multiple community BR lists which they just have to copy.

Eventually it will come, it just takes some time (years prob)....

[Landsman]

4 minutes ago, rediii said:

For example standardpaints for each nation for every ship would need more work

Example = every ship crafted in a swedish port gets the paint swede dreams

Not every paint was ready for all ships.

I mean yeah, in this special case I guess it would make sense, even tho they could release the ones they have and add more along the way.... but why would they do that? Special paint for every single nation? 

[Abram Svensson]

20 minutes ago, Landsman said:

Yeah, this is what I thought but why haven't they done it already, if this is the plan? Or give them now as rewards and at release switch them to DLC or something?

I think the problem is, that Naval Action is stil in the state of Early Access and Steam not allowing Early Access games to offer DLCs before the game is released.

[Corona Lisa]

Just now, rediii said:

BR rebalance could take so long because a system is developed that calculated BR on different stats so BR changes with cartahena upgrade and without for example

Or because they just dont give a shit.

[Kloothommel]

Watch out, paints might add thickness if applied too fanatical.

 

[Landsman]

43 minutes ago, Abram Svensson said:

I think the problem is, that Naval Action is stil in the state of Early Access and Steam not allowing Early Access games to offer DLCs before the game is released.

Ah, yeah this could be reason... I wish the devs just told us. Also I still don't see why they can't give us the paints as pvp reward until then? Just wondering...

[Landsman]

43 minutes ago, rediii said:

Because it would look way better. Its also not special paints its just a standard paint. Battles would look way better and ships/nations would have their own character on the OW aswell.

I mean yeah it would definitely look better... I just doubt they would make the effort for 11 different nations... that's like what 385 different paint jobs, if they did it for all ships?

47 minutes ago, rediii said:

a bit like placeholders

This is exactly why I want paints. They add some variety... Just nation paintjobs would be even better with the option of other paints on top but I doubt this will be added...

[Landsman]

6 minutes ago, rediii said:

I dont think its huge work that goes into making 1 paint

Fair enough, I'd really like to see nation specific paintjobs as default.... But if it isn't that much work, they could have added it already. Getting really bored of everyone sailing the same cookie cutter ships...

[Ahoy H.R. Matey]

I would be OK with GL selling paintjobs for small amounts of cash (1-3 bucks per pop). It works for Frontier Developments. Completely optional, pretty cheap, gives you a way to show support for the devs (or express your lack thereof) and helps keep the lights on in the studio.

[Barbancourt]

On 1/21/2018 at 11:43 PM, Abram Svensson said:

I think the problem is, that Naval Action is stil in the state of Early Access and Steam not allowing Early Access games to offer DLCs before the game is released.

The Yacht is DLC, though it was a one-time thing tied to the EA purchase.

I think it would be good to have both premium PVP rewards paints and a few standard $2 DLC paints.

I wonder if naming ships could be added to the paint schemes, and made into a PVP reward? 

[Baptiste Gallouédec]

So no one know if there is a way to modify some files to change the appearence of some skins in game (for my session only)

I'd like to try to create some for my personal use first, i've seen some screens of people who replaced their nation flag with custom flags so i was asking myself if this is also possible for ships paint scheme..