Was Constitution nerfed at some point?

[Odol]

On 1/20/2018 at 12:09 PM, Malachi said:

Thank you for your valuable insight into british and american navy nomenclature, I really appreciate that.

But the ship I was referring to - and the one you, for whatever reasons, called the 'other american brig'  - was the (Heavy) Rattlesnake.

 

The Heavy Rattlesnake is a mythical ship, just like the Pirate Frigate.   There is no documentation that ship ever existed, unlike the Rattlesnake.

[James Cornelius]

On 1/19/2018 at 3:02 PM, Odol said:

The funny thing is, I dont even care if it turns better than a Wasa... I just want it to be faster than any other 4th rate or bigger.   That way at least it matches its historical accounts of it being faster than anything bigger than it, and more powerful than anything else considered a frigate. 

 

It would be nice if it could turn better but it is a LONG ship compared to the Wasa, so I can see it having the rudder turning abilities of a bus. 

 

Precisely. While it was never identified as such, the Constitution was the period equivalent of the British battlecruiser of the early 20th Century:

 

"It can outrun [and outsail, in our situation] what it can't out gun".

 

The Constitution in its current NA build can do neither.

[DeRuyter]

On ‎1‎/‎19‎/‎2018 at 12:43 PM, Malachi said:

There´s a very small window in which large ships can out sail smaller vessels in very light wind conditions; it didn´t happen often, but it did happen.

 

Do tell. I am curious. Anything to do with currents?

[maturin]

2 minutes ago, DeRuyter said:

Do tell. I am curious. Anything to do with currents?

For one, if it's blowing 5 kts at 50 feet above sea level, and 10 kts at 100 feet above sea level, the ship with the loftier rig will have a very large advantage.

Meanwhile, my naval architect source pointed out that the shape with the smallest surface area is a sphere. So having a bluff bow isn't necessarily a bad thing at low speeds where frictional resistance is the primary form of drag.

I'd expect currents to affect all vessels pretty much the same.

[DeRuyter]

15 minutes ago, maturin said:

For one, if it's blowing 5 kts at 50 feet above sea level, and 10 kts at 100 feet above sea level, the ship with the loftier rig will have a very large advantage.

Meanwhile, my naval architect source pointed out that the shape with the smallest surface area is a sphere. So having a bluff bow isn't necessarily a bad thing at low speeds where frictional resistance is the primary form of drag.

I'd expect currents to affect all vessels pretty much the same.

Thanks - I should've thought of that one.