Leeway warning! Important!

[admin]

For immediate release! Extreme importance.

All veffels are subject to leeway but some are more leewardly than others. Captains commandeering leewardly veffels in battle must keep distance from land and shores. Strong wind will make it impossible to maneuver out and will eventually beach your ship. Captains are encouraged to use this information to their advantage and attack leewardly ships close to land when wind is blowing to shore.

Veffels lost due to beaching or grounding or captured or destroyed due to beaching and/or grounding will not be recovered or replaced by the Admiralty and Support services. 

Appendix: Ships with stronger leeway

• All ships of the line.
• Wasa.

[Liq]

I noticed that in a testing battle today, AI gut stuck to the coast, leeway force wouldnt let them get back out lol

Edited December 28, 2017 by Liq

[admin]

8 minutes ago, Liq said:

I noticed that in a testing battle today, AI gut stuck to the coast, leeway force wouldnt let them get back out lol

 

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You fhall pay a fine, two fhillings

[Salty Dog.]

The dangers of a lee shore.  

Read any naval themed/historical book you will find sailors were terrified of a lee shore.  I remember reading about the dangers of a lee shore in both "Moby Dick" and several instances in the Patrick O'brian books.

 

[Kloothommel]

This post is both informative and funny. 

[Liq]

haha sorry I edited my main post, didnt want to be offensive but looks like admin has a good day lol

anyway im really enjoying the game at the moment.

[seanjo]

Can we have translation to modern English for those of us that aren't sailors and/or weren't born in the 18th century?

[Sella]

Loving every bit of the mechanics right now. I can't think how combat can get any better now. 

If only you could the same on other aspects of the game that would be great! I'll hoping.

Keep up the good work

[Christendom]

HELLLLLLP!

The poor connie captain suffered as well.  

Edited December 29, 2017 by Christendom

[Kloothommel]

10 minutes ago, seanjo said:

Can we have translation to modern English for those of us that aren't sailors and/or weren't born in the 18th century?

SOL+Wasa are now (very) bad at sailing against the wind

[Cabral]

18 minutes ago, Liq said:

haha sorry I edited my main post, didnt want to be offensive but looks like admin has a good day lol

ahahahah

[Powderhorn]

12 minutes ago, seanjo said:

Can we have translation to modern English for those of us that aren't sailors and/or weren't born in the 18th century?

A "lee shore" is when the wind is blowing towards the shore.  You are inexorably pushed ashore, as Christendom's post humorously illustrates.

[maturin]

The real Wasa was recorded to make between 0.5 and 1 degree of leeway when sailing close-hauled at 4 knots in a fresh breeze.

Just for the record.

 

Other vessels that deserve to make lots of leeway:

• Niagara
• Mercury
• Surprise
• Rattlesnake
• Snow (x100500)
• Santi (x10000000)

[PenguPirate]

40 minutes ago, maturin said:

The real Wasa was recorded to make between 0.5 and 1 degree of leeway when sailing close-hauled at 4 knots in a fresh breeze.

Just for the record.

 

Other vessels that deserve to make lots of leeway:

• Niagara
• Mercury
• Surprise
• Rattlesnake
• Snow (x100500)
• Santi (x10000000)

My dear maturin, how could you wish such a thing on such a Weatherly, dry and fine sailor on a bowline? Joking aside, I'd suggest captains not engage enemies near the shores unless they are very confident with their ability to sail their ships.

Edited December 29, 2017 by PenguPirate

[PenguPirate]

1 hour ago, seanjo said:

Can we have translation to modern English for those of us that aren't sailors and/or weren't born in the 18th century?

Wind pushes ship to the sides now. If it pushes you on to land, you're buggered

[PenguPirate]

@admin can we rename this thread 'Naval Action : Shore batteries edition'

[admin]

52 minutes ago, maturin said:

The real Wasa was recorded to make between 0.5 and 1 degree of leeway when sailing close-hauled at 4 knots in a fresh breeze.

Just for the record.

 

Other vessels that deserve to make lots of leeway:

• Niagara
• Mercury
• Surprise
• Rattlesnake
• Snow (x100500)
• Santi (x10000000)

we had to start somewhere light to not scare everyone immediately. But we will adapt the model to reflect real life differences.

I also remember surprise to be a good sailer in reports and definitely better than many other ships - eg santi.

are not smaller vessels supposed to have less leeway (be less leewardly)?

[PenguPirate]

@admin Can we expect currents and Trade winds too? 

[Christendom]

 

Yea... it's about as fun as slamming my face into a wall.  Feels a bit over-tuned at the moment.

Edited December 29, 2017 by Christendom

[maturin]

15 minutes ago, admin said:

we had to start somewhere light to not scare everyone immediately. But we will adapt the model to reflect real life differences.

I also remember surprise to be a good sailer in reports and definitely better than many other ships - eg santi. are not smaller vessels supposed to have less leeway (be less leewardly)

I have Surprise's sailing quality report. It is a low quality scan of the original cursive handwriting and painful to read.

"Her draft prevents her from having the qualification of a weatherly ship."

Only 14.6 feet of draft, that was her problem. Surprise was designed to run dispatches into shallow Caribbean ports, while sailing downwind in the trades.

'The most she runs before the wind' = "probably" 11 kts

Can't remember close-hauled speeds but they are average. Basically, we have Aubrey's Surprise instead.

 

Ships of the line make a lot of leeway because they have so many decks. (The game ignores the side force of the hull itself.)

Light vessels are low to the water, which is good. But if they have disproportionately shallow hulls, then the keels do not resist the sideforce. Like Niagara the lake ship, or Mercury who had to operate in the болото Азовское. Or the snow because she is both very shallow AND her keel creates eddies under the boxy hull.

 

[PenguPirate]

3 minutes ago, Christendom said:

 

Yea... it's about as fun as slamming my face into a wall.

Cos you don't have the necessary music

 

[z4ys]

6 minutes ago, Christendom said:

....

Yea... it's about as fun as slamming my face into a wall.

Looks about right to me (your vid compared to the pic)

[maturin]

Haha, I love it.

Doesn't matter if you're sailing a dinghy or a battleship. Don't have enough time to build momentum? Spent too long coming about? Leeway is a bitch.

[admin]

devs last month

[Flakbait]

Some leeward winds are stronger than others, I guess