Forthcoming patch 14 Part 3

[admin]

17 minutes ago, Seraphic Radiance said:

I think in battle leeway is useless because you always steering anyways. All it might do is make you slow.  

It will make ships with huge sail power to hull ratios  (like surprise, rattlesnake) bad in holding the course and bad in chasing, but great in brawling (amazing turning)
Alternatively ships with lower sail power to hull ratios (like uss constitution) great in holding the course = chasing and running (not so good turning). 

[Seraphic Radiance]

19 minutes ago, admin said:

It will make ships with huge sail power to hull ratios bad in holding the course = bad in chasing, but great in brawling (amazing turning)
Alternatively ships with low sail power to hull ratios (like uss constitution) great in holding the course = chasing and running (not so good turning). 

Why would I chase someone who does not want to fight?

This brings a lot of questions. If I am in a brawler and can't chase this means I have upper hand in close combat, but my opponent will escape when hurt if he is sailing on low sail to hull ship..

This means chasing / running ships will need to fit for Sniper (long guns) and maintain distance at all times, but must work in groups to be effective (skirm groups). Sail in harass sail out. 

This makes low sail to hull ships useless for 1 vs 1 fights, but can still be ok for Trader hunt. On the other hand they can work in a group as skirm fleet during the aggression time. Whoever has the most turn will win I guess. 

Adding mods that would make runner ship a hybrid (brawler/sniper) would be great. I hope you will figure out something and expand your ship capabilities even further. Let players decide what they want to do with their build, I love Constitution and would love to make it a hybrid ship that could fight in some 1 vs 1 vs more maneuverable opponents. 

This new patch will make some old ships new player favorite while retiring the rest of all player loved ships. 

Edited December 15, 2017 by Seraphic Radiance

[_Alucard_]

@admin

Those new features are great and we are all looking forward to testing them.

But I have to ask for something really easy for you to introduce and that would make a lot of people happy.

As simple as this: hull repairs, rig repairs and rum should be available in every shop. Why can we buy medium cannons but never repairs?

This would increase PVP and free us of boring  travels.

Think about It.

Edited December 15, 2017 by _Alucard_

[victor]

8 minutes ago, rediii said:

In a war

If you chase a trader

If you have a juicy big 1st rate in front of you who is sailing alone and a noob

 

Keeping a connie just to chase traders or gank noobs in shiny ship is a bit ... overkill

[Sir Texas Sir]

6 minutes ago, _Alucard_ said:

@admin

Those new features are great and we are all looking forward to testing them.

But I have to ask for something really easy for you to introduce and that would make a lot if people happy.

As simple as this: hull repairs, rig repairs and rum should be available in every shop. Why can we buy medium cannons but never repairs?

This would increase PVP and free us of boring  travels.

Think about It.

 Didn't they put them in regional capitals or something, but the point is why do you go places and not bring them?  Why not buy them off the poor noob that is trying to make a buck?  Repairs are a great starting produciton some one can make money off.   Those would make great tutorial missions to introduce a new player to crafting. Setting up out post and buildings to craft hull repairs.

[Lord Amplify of Key West]

20 minutes ago, Seraphic Radiance said:

Why would I chase someone who does not want to fight?

This brings a lot of questions. If I am in a brawler and can't chase this means I have upper hand in close combat, but my opponent will escape when hurt if he is sailing on low sail to hull ship..

This means chasing / running ships will need to fit for Sniper (long guns) and maintain distance at all times, but must work in groups to be effective (skirm groups). Sail in harass sail out. 

This makes low sail to hull ships useless for 1 vs 1 fights, but can still be ok for Trader hunt. On the other hand they can work in a group as skirm fleet during the aggression time. Whoever has the most turn will win I guess. 

Adding mods that would make runner ship a hybrid (brawler/sniper) would be great. I hope you will figure out something and expand your ship capabilities even further. Let players decide what they want to do with their build, I love Constitution and would love to make it a hybrid ship that could fight in some 1 vs 1 vs more maneuverable opponents. 

It's not like a Connie will outrun a fast frigate you just have to take this in cosideration when chasing and low sail to Hull means less sailing power therefore slower

 

 

Edited December 15, 2017 by amplify
Forgot some points

[Seraphic Radiance]

3 minutes ago, amplify said:

It's not like a Connie Will outrun a gaat frigate you Will Just have to take this in cosideration when chasing 

 

We will surely test this after this patch. I feel like everything is going to change. Conie would not run from frigate anyway, but it would need to stay at range and use damage output as upper hand. 

Edited December 15, 2017 by Seraphic Radiance

[Liq]

Please dont make the new upgrades pve rng only.

Other than that good changes, capsizing on overextensive yard management seems.. interesting

[_Alucard_]

6 minutes ago, Sir Texas Sir said:

 Didn't they put them in regional capitals or something, but the point is why do you go places and not bring them?  Why not buy them off the poor noob that is trying to make a buck?  Repairs are a great starting produciton some one can make money off.   Those would make great tutorial missions to introduce a new player to crafting. Setting up out post and buildings to craft hull repairs.

No, there are no repairs in capitals. Only those sold by players.

New players can make money with other goods, sell their crafting hours or whatever. But we need to be able to purchase repairs wherever we are. If I don't have them, I can't do PVP. 

Even if you purchase a ship in the shop, you can arm it with meddium cannons but if you lack repairs= no PVP and end of story.

Also, we would get rid of those boring travels carrying only repairs....

Player's time is gold, so don't force him to waste it on these boring things.

Edited December 15, 2017 by _Alucard_

[IndianaGeoff]

The wind changes will result in a more crashes.  That's a good thing, if you don't want to crash, then stay clear.

[Lord Amplify of Key West]

1 minute ago, _Alucard_ said:

No, there are no repairs in capitals. Only those sold by players.

New players can make money with other goods, sell their crafting hours or whatever. But we need to be able to purchase repairs wherever we are. If I don't have them, I can't do PVP. 

Even if you purchase a ship in the shop, you can arm it with meddium cannons but if you lack repairs= no PVP and end of story.

Also, we would get rid of those boring travels carrying only repairs....

Go make them. and if there are no repairs in your capital that just means your nation is doing something wrong and you can make some nice money bys sellingthem there

[Quineloe]

1 hour ago, admin said:

. Several new upgrades added

6. New combo books added

Seriously hope they won't be walled behind massive PVE grind or insane PVP mark costs.

Make crafters craft upgrades already.

Also, if you add Leeway to OW, we need more tools for the OW as well. Currently we're running on the tools of 500 BC, a working compass and nothing else.

Edited December 15, 2017 by Quineloe

[Sir Texas Sir]

9 minutes ago, _Alucard_ said:

No, there are no repairs in capitals. Only those sold by players.

New players can make money with other goods, sell their crafting hours or whatever. But we need to be able to purchase repairs wherever we are. If I don't have them, I can't do PVP. 

Even if you purchase a ship in the shop, you can arm it with meddium cannons but if you lack repairs= no PVP and end of story.

Also, we would get rid of those boring travels carrying only repairs....

Player's time is gold, so don't force him to waste it on these boring things.

Really that is funny cause I find repairs all the time in shop not sold by players.  Maybe with the bigger population....JUST MAYBE FOLKS BUY THEM.

Edited December 15, 2017 by Sir Texas Sir

[victor]

Just now, rediii said:

I dont understand because thats already what is going on for ages now

since they screwed the connie, you mean? 

[Quineloe]

46 minutes ago, Seraphic Radiance said:

Look at this map. It has arrows as currents and I think this would be the best approach to currents. Just needs extra current for Florida coast to merge with the rest as well as Bahamas. Sailing with current would add speed bonus. 

POBS had the currents thing all wrong. All of it. Never mind what a stupid mechanic it was. Speed buff by passing over a giant arrow in the water? Yuck.

[IndianaGeoff]

17 minutes ago, amplify said:

Go make them. and if there are no repairs in your capital that just means your nation is doing something wrong and you can make some nice money bys sellingthem there

Yup.  I for one like having them in some places but not everywhere.  They were a huge time and hours sink, but being able to stock up and sail out works.  There is also opportunity for a new player to sail them to PvP ports and sell them.  I would expand it to regional capitals too.  That would not be game breaking and would reduce sails.

And reduce the use of them in battles.  Make the battles shorter.

Edited December 15, 2017 by IndianaGeoff

[Iroquois Confederacy]

11 minutes ago, Quineloe said:

Make crafters craft upgrades already.

I'm marking this day on the Calendar.  December 15th, 2017.  A day which will live in infamy.  A day that I actually agree with Quineloe.

Everything aspect of the game should be tied back to economy.  Upgrades should not be grinded for.  (Recipes for them, perhaps?)  Everything should be focused on having merchants in the water, moving goods.  Everything stems from that.

[Aziz]

All I can say is stop listening to these masochistic fools, there's enough to worry about in a battle other than another mechanic like capsizing bad enough the unrealistic reverse sailing. I'm no sailor but I'm pretty sure you would trim or let go sail and use jibs to turn through the wind not let your mains blow you backward.

Between the EU server merge the reverse sailing for me this game is losing its appeal. Capsizing may just be the last nail in the coffin.

[Iroquois Confederacy]

[z4ys]

Will we be able to set different rudder angles besides no rudder and 100%? Otherwise it will be a rudder tabbing nightmare.

[Aziz]

Its a fantastical picture but sorry how many times have you thought, i know ill use that tactic in battle that will work perfectly?

 

[Quineloe]

21 minutes ago, Iroquois Confederacy said:

I'm marking this day on the Calendar.  December 15th, 2017.  A day which will live in infamy.  A day that I actually agree with Quineloe.

Everything aspect of the game should be tied back to economy.  Upgrades should not be grinded for.  (Recipes for them, perhaps?)  Everything should be focused on having merchants in the water, moving goods.  Everything stems from that.

I've repeated this over and over. You need to pay more attention

[Odol]

So does this mean the Privateer, Lynx and Prince will flip as soon as they begin to turn?

 

What does this mean for other ships, will battle sails be viable?

 

And how will this effect fore-aft rigged ships?

[Yngvarr]

2 minutes ago, Quineloe said:

I've repeated this over and over. You need to pay more attention

indeed, you can't have a war without the economy to pay for it.

[Pada]

4. Unstable situations might be added (having a ship with large yard power but using it irresponsibly can result in capsizing of the boat).

MRW I see everybody around me capsizing.