Grundgemunkey Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 1 minute ago, rediii said: This kind of oppinion is why I hate these useless discussions. 1st you say im biased and dont want to see that sweden falls due to a merge Now you say i want to be part of every portbattle and shit. Keep your nightflips on global. We are fine thanks you started it with your we will conquer everything at will bs
Simon Cadete Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 Why not make taking a port an all day event where people just go into that area and after a certain amount of points is obtained, through sinking ships, the region flips over to the victors. It would take 24 hours for the “war” for the port to be over. Also, for those that say global server players should just lose everything they have and start over in the EU server I say: Go F#%# yourself! Complete wipe or redeemables. 1
Christendom Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, rediii said: We also had 2-3 us players in sweden. You cant include anplayerbase in your nation if this playerbase isnt present in your nation. You dont want to understand that because you didnt havr the problem. Anyway, im out. Take the game hostage again if you convince admin to do it sounds like players need to take it back from your grasp. Maybe NA needs a merge....just to save it from your ego. If you think a merge, a more diverse player base and a more competitive map are bad things for this game, than you are either a fool or just a short sighted selfish player.
Grundgemunkey Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, rediii said: This kind of oppinion is why I hate these useless discussions. 1st you say im biased and dont want to see that sweden falls due to a merge Now you say i want to be part of every portbattle and shit. Keep your nightflips on global. We are fine thanks if your not bothered about been in every port battle why the opposition to different timezone the point od having different timezones is there will be no nightflis .. or work flips or whatever time is inconveniant flips
Grundgemunkey Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 Just now, Christendom said: sounds like players need to take it back from your grasp. Maybe NA needs a merge....just to save it from your ego. If you think a merge, a more diverse player base and a more competitive map are bad things for this game, than you are either a fool or just a short sighted selfish player. i think the opposition to a hybrid server merge is some still see it as a "we told you so we were right you were wrong " troll and they prefer to keep this up rather than do something for the good of the game
Grundgemunkey Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 1 minute ago, rediii said: Because it favors 2 things Once you have enough points you dont go there anymore to win You have US players and the others doenst you autowin Because its bad for the game A merge and a conquest system like global or even individual porttimers are bad for the game you keep saying its bad for the game ... but dont explain why ?
Grundgemunkey Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Intrepido said: You talk a lot about REDS. How many playes have REDS available for a PB at 2:00 server time? none at the moment .. but they may have with a server merge and the timezones will prevent them night flipping ports in the eu timezone Edited November 16, 2017 by Grundgemunkey
Hethwill, the Red Duke Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Grundgemunkey said: you keep saying its bad for the game ... but dont explain why ? "I AM the game !" *vanishes...* 3
Simon Cadete Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 1 minute ago, rediii said: Because it favors 2 things Once you have enough points you dont go there anymore to win You have US players and the others doenst you autowin Because its bad for the game A merge and a conquest system like global or even individual porttimers are bad for the game If the enemy defends and sinks the attackers, the points go down just like in port battles now. You would just have a bunch a fights throughout the day instead of a stupid kittying around circles battle. If no defenders showed up to defend you would have to sink super ai fleets that would spawn in the region once the port battle was activated. Maybe just give half the points compared to pvp
Hethwill, the Red Duke Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 Sorry Redii, but lunch was awesome, in a good mood. Sorry for being a sarcastic Muttley dastard By the way captains, looking at the problem to find the solution is long overdue. Maybe the solution lies not in what causes the problem - aka. round Earth and timezones - but how Conquest works. 1
Grundgemunkey Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Intrepido said: Because we tried and we suffered the consequences. I lost a lot of friends exhausted for the shit pb timers. But you didnt man. GB and US never had in that time any issue to fill your PBs at any dam time. the whole point of the timezones is there will not be shit pb timers ... once the timezone that falls into your primetime shuts ..you can go to bed happily knowing your ports are safe meanwhile players who live in different parts of the world who have joined your nation can fight for your nation in another timezone .. try and look at the whole picture rather than your if i cant be in it .. i dont want it to happen .. goldfish bowl Edited November 16, 2017 by Grundgemunkey
Christendom Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Intrepido said: You talk a lot about REDS. How many playes have REDS available for a PB at 2:00 server time? no one is talking about a global style server. Timers are a happy medium. I bring up REDS because according to players like you and rediii, clans with multiple different nations and timezone coverage is impossible. All I've seen on these forums by people like you is how it's impossible to recruit other players from different time zones and how GB had such a huge advantage. You're dead wrong.
Christendom Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, Intrepido said: Because we tried and we suffered the consequences. I lost a lot of friends exhausted for the shit pb timers. But you didnt man. GB and US never had in that time any issue to fill your PBs at any dam time. We were unable to fill our PBs at 15:00 server, which is why spain, sweden and DK ended up winning the map. Or did you forget that?
Christendom Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 1 minute ago, rediii said: So basically you say US wins due to pve How big are the dutch, swedes and danes on global? You guys ofc say its possible because you never faced the problem. Luckily sweden is so large on EU that you will balance out the disparity in populations. Win win. Good point dude. DK actually has some players here, same with the dutch. Here is admins quote on the merge. Praise be!
Grundgemunkey Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, The Red Duke said: Sorry Redii, but lunch was awesome, in a good mood. Sorry for being a sarcastic Muttley dastard By the way captains, looking at the problem to find the solution is long overdue. Maybe the solution lies not in what causes the problem - aka. round Earth and timezones - but how Conquest works. well something needs to be done ... so far the 24/7 pull a flag when you want system hasnt worked ... and the current system of eu 1700-2200 port battles has failed as it excludes anyone .. eu or global that are unable to play at those times and we are stuck at a player base of around an average 300- 500 which isnt sustainable
Simon Cadete Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, rediii said: So basically you say US wins due to pve How big are the dutch, swedes and danes on global? You guys ofc say its possible because you never faced the problem. Dude this isn’t all about you. There are other people that play the game besides you and your clan mates. You and players like you are the biggest reason why we’re in this situation. Don’t even know why i’m Bothering discussing this with you. I’ll get more talking to a brick wall... 1
Christendom Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 1 minute ago, rediii said: Yea day and nightflipping back and forth is a nice solution. Why didnt yoh recruit more daytimers back then christendom? Shouldnt have been a problem I thought you quit on this thread? Just like your attempts to bully the rest of us by threatening to quit......only BS. We didn't care enough about the ports in the Bahamas to bother recruiting. We had to let you guys get your revenge in. It was only fair after all.
Grundgemunkey Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Intrepido said: You dont know me. As you can see Im able to communicate with others in a language different from mine. But my mates dont have my luck. Thats why always some nations will struggle recruiting and retaining foreign players. maybe then we should split the servers into an english language server and . non english speaking server its as fair as the current split is
Grundgemunkey Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, rediii said: I dont see the EU server system failing really with 500 players online at primetime ... and those numbers dropping .. its not a success is it
Christendom Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Intrepido said: I didnt know we won. In my view, none of us clearly won the map. The dutch stopped fighting at the end because of the announcement of the map reset. yea us and gb gave up after the global announcement was given and the breakup of our clans imminent. Then rediii went on his revenge tour of the Bahamas at 15:00 taking ports he couldn't take from me when I bothered to show up. It was cute, but we stopped caring. Anyway if this thread is any indication, a server merge is needed to save the game from rediii's ego. Naval Action must be saved! 1
Grundgemunkey Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 1 minute ago, rediii said: thing is its not due to the conquest system like in the timezone war we had so whats it due to ?? you feel the rvr situation is fine pve is what it is can only be pvp then ? ??? do you think hundreds of players dont play because of pvp ? if so get rid of pvp ... someone said somewhere that the game has sold 90,000 yet only 500 play .... if its a pvp problem lets get rid of pvp ...maybe lose 300 of the 500 that play now .. but if we get back a 1000 of the 89,500 that dont play anymore the game will be beter
Christendom Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, Intrepido said: Full contested port battles. Thats a success. Before we had a great % of empty pb with the flag and pb timers system. Great Britain did many times the same dirty tactic of conquering ports and setting the pb timers at the midd of the night, even when they didnt have anyone online to defend them. Only for the pleasure of seeing the impotence of Spain. good thing we got a BR system. Needing 25 on for every battle is a thing of the past. PROGRESS
Capn Rocko Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 I agree that the servers should be merged. The fact that a lot of North American players play on the EU server shows that people are more interested in playing on a populated server than having convenient port battle times. OW hunting during slow hours (80 players online) is extremely difficult. If the servers were merged, we could actually have "naval action" at all times of day. I am sure there is a simple solution to sort out the port battles, maybe the BR restricted PBs are the solution already. 1
Abram Svensson Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) I dont like the idea of Timezones at all. This game is about clans working together as a nation. With different timezones and players "who can represent your nation in other timeszones" you gonna have one nation for each timezone. You want to bring people together, but with different timezones on a server you gonna split the players on one server. People want the merge because they have nothing to do on their primetime, thats why Global players want a merge and EU players feel fine. Right now i would actually propose 3 different servers, maybe 4. EU PVP, US PVP, ASIA PVP and maybe OCEANIA PVP. When all these servers hit over 1k people i would rethink a merge. Right now non-EU-Players have no reason to start in this game. Why should they play a game there nothing is going on (Global) or nothing is happening in their primetime (EU)? Edited November 16, 2017 by Abram Svensson
Grundgemunkey Posted November 16, 2017 Posted November 16, 2017 basic facts are ... when we had 24/7 portbattles with flags ... as bad as it was more players played conquest changed players pissed at hostility grinding ...limited number of port battles .. players left server split ... limited port battle times in eu added to number of limited port battles .. players left good old days of having people pop into your ts .. "we are pullling a flag on x port can you make it " and or seeing some other nation pulling flag on one of your ports and scrambling to defend ... searching for flag carrier ... those times were as exciting as the actual battles
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