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I would like to sail the Constitution again to see what i can do against Wasa's with its new buffed turnrate, so i would appreciate the hardcore Constitution lovers to share some experience and tips around PvP with it ( especially solo PvP ). What wood, upgrades, books and gun loadout can you recommend ( don't really want to sail fir/fir if it can be helped at all )? Do you think the Constitution is in the right spot now or could still use more buffs? @Peter Goldman @Malachy

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What Otto says is correct.

Maybe, if you want to engage specifically Wasa also teak/white could work (since wasa have teak/white wood setup very often and teak/teak could result a little undertanked, while with teak/white you do not loose a lot of speed)

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The Constitution is the superior ship in a 1v1 engagement under the 4th rates.It combines speed with firepower and has a decent turnrate. I'm not actively playing atm so I don't know about the Wasa but is seems pretty op.

I was using a Teak/White Oak Connie with Gazelle figurehead, Crooked hull and Copper plating. Armament is 42pd Carros on weather deck, for the extra punch in close quarters and 24pd longs on gundeck.

If you get ganked you can still defend yourself pretty well if you are not hopelessly outnumbered. Like here against 4 frigates.

https://i.imgur.com/6TjHrv7.jpg?1

You should still be able to demast smaller frigates even after the nasty mast buff, especially the upper gallants. If someone tries to rake you, start turning towards him when he gets close to minimize crew loss. 

And do i think the Connie is in the right spot now? Yes, imo it's even the best all around ship in the game. If we buff it more or even make it like the real life super frigate it would become op af.

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27 minutes ago, Peter Goldman said:

Teak is decent

What do you think about Teak/WO? Does the extra thickness make a difference?

28 minutes ago, Peter Goldman said:

Here are my recent combats:

Nice. :)

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3 minutes ago, Peter Goldman said:

Extra thickness makes a huge difference.

Yeah, just not sure if it is worth the loss of extra speed of teak/teak...

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In solo action, I prefer a fir/Bermuda or fir teak Connie. Can easily buff to 15 plus knots with cheap mods. It also averages around 3.25 turn rate which will allow you to sit on a wasa stern if you knock him to 85 sails (1 shot of chain). The teak/wo is a good combo for a heavier one and you can go toe to toe in a dps build and kill a similar wasa before he kills you. 

I was fighting a wasa tonight in an Agamemnon with around 3 turn rate. I easily stern camped him but did lose the fight because I boarded him instead of sinking him. He was full boarding, I was none and got too over confident lol. Should have just sunk him 

 

as to soloing other 5th rates, the buffed turn rate means none of them can stay on your stern now... maybe a renomee can but a surprise and regular/pirate frigate can't. 

Guns vary. I have 6 connies, all slightly different. Some I use all longs, some longs with carronades, some all mediums, some medium with carronades. A double deck of 12 longs is a pretty sweet build too.  

 

 

 

 

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Buddy of mine who is a connie expert currently solos in a teak/fir connie and rapes with it. He says he doesn't get stern camped by fifths anymore. For what little that's worth. I'm godawful in the connie... only advice I can give is what insults to shout while sinking.

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5 minutes ago, Werewolf said:

 I'm godawful in the connie... only advice I can give is what insults to shout while sinking.

That sir is a wonderful skill to have. 

 

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On 11/8/2017 at 9:33 PM, Malachy said:

In solo action, I prefer a fir/Bermuda or fir teak Connie. Can easily buff to 15 plus knots with cheap mods. It also averages around 3.25 turn rate which will allow you to sit on a wasa stern if you knock him to 85 sails (1 shot of chain). The teak/wo is a good combo for a heavier one and you can go toe to toe in a dps build and kill a similar wasa before he kills you. 

I was fighting a wasa tonight in an Agamemnon with around 3 turn rate. I easily stern camped him but did lose the fight because I boarded him instead of sinking him. He was full boarding, I was none and got too over confident lol. Should have just sunk him 

 

as to soloing other 5th rates, the buffed turn rate means none of them can stay on your stern now... maybe a renomee can but a surprise and regular/pirate frigate can't. 

Guns vary. I have 6 connies, all slightly different. Some I use all longs, some longs with carronades, some all mediums, some medium with carronades. A double deck of 12 longs is a pretty sweet build too.  

 

 

 

 

Update to my previous post, my fir/teak Connie and a fir prince engaged 2 renomee. The renomee could not maintain a stern camp position vs the Connie. 1 renomee was sunk, other ran. Think they were returning players and not aware of the turn rate changes. They seemed surprised at the outcome of the battle.

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Trinc is an awesome brawler with poods and teak-wo, british rig, navy structure or mast upgrade and some heel reduction mods.

 

ps: teak-teak is good too.

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3 hours ago, MassimoSud said:

Solo hunting = teak/bermuda with all speed refits and shipknowledge.

Poods and carros and 4 pders as bow cannons.

Only my personal opinion.

 

Trinc? 

@jnovotny6

The conny is a beauty and teak/bermuda is fine for solo but I'd recommend longs. 

I sail the Trinc usually with poods and carronades but at least teak teak. But I can't deny I sink a lot. 

Endy is more to recommend as it has stern chasers and a slightly better sailing profile. 

Surp is fine but at the current meta not proper. Her masts are really weak and nearly all frigates turn quite well.

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On 11/8/2017 at 8:07 PM, Banished Privateer said:

Teak is decent. Here are my recent combats:

 

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How the devil did you sink a Wasa and an Ag in a solo connie? They should have had you beat merely due to the surplus of cannons on their end.

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