A clear warning to the french and dutch

[sveno]

To the French and Dutch fighting late on tuesday North of Aves.

After fighting some Brits North of Aves, you guys came out of fight and the Swedes had a same sized fleet outside waiting for you.
You were splitting you group fleeing into different directions, so far no issue, but....

I have seen 3 instances of Dutch taggin French or French tagging Dutch to deny any usefull tag by the Swedes.

It is clear that you guys are allied, and that is improper play, in the fights we were joining, no shots were fired and tag was at maximum distance.
This miss-use is one of the reasons why such a popular feature as the outlaw battles was removed.

We will not accept a such missuse and we will document the next fights to be able to raise this issue in the tribunal next time we see that.

 

Be warned.

Edited November 7, 2017 by sveno

[Red Jack Walker]

A true shame....

[North]

ROFL, pvp not allowed unless it's a swedish ganking fleet

[Cabral]

 

2 minutes ago, North said:

ROFL, pvp not allowed unless it's a swedish ganking fleet

 There was no pvp between french and dutch, only cheating.

[Bart Smith]

So they tag each other just to avoid being tagged? Right?

[Styles]

Just now, Bart Smith said:

So they tag each other just to avoid being tagged? Right?

Yes

[Christendom]

sounds like an agreement between allies, which I believe is allowed in the rules.  If they're not farming each other for hostility, I fail to see an issue.

[Landsman]

32 minutes ago, Christendom said:

sounds like an agreement between allies, which I believe is allowed in the rules.  If they're not farming each other for hostility, I fail to see an issue.

Agreed. First the swedes suggest other nations should ally to counter their zerg play and then they moan and cry cheater when they actually do...

[Grundgemunkey]

1 hour ago, sveno said:

To the French and Dutch fighting late on tuesday North of Aves.

After fighting some Brits North of Aves, you guys came out of fight and the Swedes had a same sized fleet outside waiting for you.
You were splitting you group fleeing into different directions, so far no issue, but....

I have seen 3 instances of Dutch taggin French or French tagging Dutch to deny any usefull tag by the Swedes.

It is clear that you guys are allied, and that is improper play, in the fights we were joining, no shots were fired and tag was at maximum distance.
This miss-use is one of the reasons why such a popular feature as the outlaw battles was removed.

We will not accept a such missuse and we will document the next fights to be able to raise this issue in the tribunal next time we see that.

 

Be warned.

maybe you should have a word with the swedish players who tag moscalb outside kpr and wait in battle instance ..until the bait left outside has been tagged .. then leave battle  and then join the bait ships battle ... you cannot cry foul when your own nation uses such tactics.....

Edited November 8, 2017 by Grundgemunkey

[Christendom]

Don't make daddy angry guys!

[Landsman]

43 minutes ago, Christendom said:

Don't make daddy angry guys!

[Lord Gud]

This happens on Global all the time and nothing is ever done to fix this game breaking mechanic.

[Christendom]

12 minutes ago, Lord Gud said:

This happens on Global all the time and nothing is ever done to fix this game breaking mechanic.

Correction, outlaw battles were fixed.  Too OP.  But tagging friends isn't.  

[ScipioTortuga]

Go cry on the devs about broken mechanics and not on the forums. Might be nasty, but its a mechanic. And as alot of people on the forums say, you do the same.

[Corona Lisa]

People who do this shit and then even come to the forum and try to defend it should instantly be deported to the PvE server.

Edited November 8, 2017 by Jon Snow lets go

[ScipioTortuga]

1 hour ago, rediii said:

any proof "we" do the same or is it enough to accuse a swede to believe whatever is accused?

Everyone not agreeing that this feature is broken has to take a step back from your national view and review this nice feature again and to what it can lead to.

For me its a reason to stop the current campaign and change the target @sveno.

I dont see any 'proof' from your side either. Also I agree too that this mechanic should be fixed, but it isnt now, so its a mechanic. 

Oh and sure do come, just try to not flip before 6 o clock server again will you? 

[loulou45TB]

8 hours ago, sveno said:

Aux Français et aux Néerlandais se battant tard mardi au nord d'Aves.

Après avoir combattu quelques Britanniques au nord d'Aves, vous êtes sorti du combat et les Suédois avaient une flotte de même taille à l'extérieur qui vous attendait.
Vous étiez en train de diviser votre groupe qui fuyait dans des directions différentes, jusqu'à présent, pas de problème, mais ...

J'ai vu 3 cas de taggin français ou français néerlandais tagging néerlandais pour refuser toute balise utile par les Suédois.

Il est clair que vous êtes des alliés, et c'est un jeu inapproprié, dans les combats que nous avons rejoints, aucun tir n'a été tiré et l'étiquette était à distance maximale.
Cette mauvaise utilisation est l'une des raisons pour lesquelles une fonctionnalité aussi populaire que les batailles hors-la-loi a été supprimée.

Nous n'accepterons pas un tel abus et nous documenterons les prochains combats pour pouvoir soulever cette question devant le tribunal la prochaine fois que nous verrons cela.

 

Être averti.

If you want this not to happen again ask for the return to igame diplomacy instead of ridiculous post office that just serves to defeat your troops to raid cargo ...

There are many topics on the behavior of different factions or player and you Swedish you are not above reproach far from the ...

Have a good day.

[Forbin]

Quote

....ask for the return to igame diplomacy...

Yes, bring back ingame diplomacy. Forum alliances are pretty pointless, not known by everyone and don't prevent shitty tactics.

[Corona Lisa]

32 minutes ago, loulou45TB said:

and you Swedish you are not above reproach far from the ...

Have a good day.

Of course not. Its a shitty gamemechanic to deny fights. Dont know why you think its depending on nation.

You too.

[Anolytic]

3 minutes ago, Jon Snow lets go said:

Dont know why you think its depending on nation.

See the OP and title. Swedes chose to make this about nation by posting it in national news instead of game mechanics or suggestions forum. Now that there's backlash you try to say that it was only about the mechanics. Be consistent. 

This should have been either a tribunal or a suggestion/mechanics topic from the very start. You can't be self-righteous and then complain when it is pointed out that it is not justified.

[Corona Lisa]

5 minutes ago, Anolytic said:

See the OP and title. Swedes chose to make this about nation by posting it in national news instead of game mechanics or suggestions forum. Now that there's backlash you try to say that it was only about the mechanics. Be consistent. 

Man Anolytic, im not Sveno. He probably made this topic on this specific case and said he will make a tribunal post next time about it.

At the end of the day its a shitty mechanic which can be easily abused by anyone, but maybe even you cant see this anymore cuz u are busy hating a nation regardless of the topic.

Edited November 8, 2017 by Jon Snow lets go

[ScipioTortuga]

Also the ones you are probably aiming at dont read the forums so its pretty useless and only gives you lots of criticism

[Corona Lisa]

Just now, ScipioTortuga said:

Also the ones you are probably aiming at dont read the forums so its pretty useless and only gives you lots of criticism

Well you are diplo right? So if you think it matters you can talk to them

[monk33y]

Remember guys the Swedish moto:

"you must do as we say! But never act as we do"

 

[ScipioTortuga]

5 minutes ago, Jon Snow lets go said:

Well you are diplo right? So if you think it matters you can talk to them

I dont even know which Dutch it were, since Sveno didnt say names.