Corona Lisa Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Peter Goldman said: Traitor! i love seeing redii sink Edited October 12, 2017 by Jon Snow lets go
Christendom Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 I can act as a ringer if someone kits me up. Otherwise I'll stream and help out Liq if he needs it
Corona Lisa Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 (edited) Also maybe its just me but I think the team BR is a bit too low. You cant even field 3 proper 5th rates (excluding Surp). Not a fan of seeing one player in a Brig doing nothing but shooting sails or some bullshit Edited October 12, 2017 by Jon Snow lets go
Christendom Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, Jon Snow lets go said: Also maybe its just me but I think the team BR is a bit too low. You cant even field 3 proper 5th rates (excluding Surp). Not a fan of seeing Brigs doing nothing but shooting sails and running or some bullshit nothing worse than having every group with the same combo of ships. Limiting BR means variety. 1
Guest Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 (edited) Also, I think Pirate Frigate should be 190 BR with the Essex. Maybe even 200. The combination of high thickness, fantastic turning, big guns, and great sailing profile seems a bit overpowered at 180 BR. Edited October 12, 2017 by Guest
HachiRoku Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 14 hours ago, Liq said: Community made BattleRating list: Lynx - 20 Cutter - 25 Privateer - 30 Pickle - 40 Brig - 50 Prince de Neufchatel - 50 Snow - 60 Navy Brig - 70 Rattlesnake Heavy - 80 Mercury - 80 Niagara - 90 Cerberus - 100 Renommee - 110 Surprise - 140 Hermione - 160 Frigate - 170 Belle Poule - 180 Pirate Frigate - 180 Essex - 190 Trincomalee - 200 Endymion - 210 Indefatigable - 220 Constitution - 230 Ingermanland - 240 Wappen von Hamburg - 240 Agamemnon - 260 Wasa - 320 3rd Rate - 380 Bellona - 400 St. Pavel - 450 Bucentaure - 470 I don't get why the frigate has 20-30 br less than Trinc. It's harder to hit bounces more, has far better turn, sailing profile.
Liq Posted October 12, 2017 Author Posted October 12, 2017 14 minutes ago, HachiRoku said: I don't get why the frigate has 20-30 br less than Trinc. It's harder to hit bounces more, has far better turn, sailing profile. Will have a look at it again when I get home
HachiRoku Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 19 minutes ago, Liq said: Will have a look at it again when I get home I will admit in biased towards the trinc 2
Guest Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 4 hours ago, Intrepido said: Maybe Im wrong but this BR comments could be very useful for the rebalance needed for variety in port battles. Or a precursor to months and months of "Buff this ship's BR, nerf this ship's BR, devs!" and BR-efficiency meta fleets.
Mikocen Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 (edited) Wasa which has higher firepower and sligtly less armour hp than 3rd rate (25 hp and 3cm thickness) should be closer in br to it (60 is too much) Edited October 12, 2017 by Mikocen 1
HachiRoku Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 19 minutes ago, rediii said: To make it easy and less drama i would just say unrestricted repairs tbh I guess with 15 min timer it's ok. I'm still against multi repairs in battle in general but I think we shouldn't have rules to keep things simple and easy to moderate. 1
HachiRoku Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 27 minutes ago, rediii said: To make it easy and less drama i would just say unrestricted repairs tbh And BTW you're taking Donner, I don't want him after you 2 broke my heart
Knobby Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 Unlimited reps is most simple and foolproof. Not sure if it will result in most interesting fights tbh, might end up with many ships not sunk at the end of the battle. I tend to lean towards one rep of hull, rig and rum each. However, this might be somewhat difficult to enforce. And suppose this rule is broken, will it mean the entire team is disqualified or loses the match? Or maybe the offending player is removed for the duration of the current battle?
Palatinose Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 6 hours ago, EliteDelta said: Also, I think Pirate Frigate should be 190 BR with the Essex. Maybe even 200. The combination of high thickness, fantastic turning, big guns, and great sailing profile seems a bit overpowered at 180 BR. Tbh I see the Pirate Frigs BR higher aswell. Compared to a Connie at 230, 180 really seems to be okay though. 230 for such a ship means underestimating its combat abilities in a propper team - comparing it to a Wasa with 320 (which seems adequate). As Hachi is biased towards the Trinc, I am to the PFrig tho
Havelock Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 Will there be any limitation regarding upgrades? Imo some too expensive or too hard to get mods should be banned, in the end even a team of poor players should have the same winning chances as teams with high economical backing. For me that would mean no: - Cartagena - Elite perm mods (everything that needs a skillbook to build) - Elite regular mods (everything that needs to be crafted from multiple skillbooks) Maybe Bovenwinds or Bridgetown? Not sure.
Lord Amplify of Key West Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 if you need another streamer hit me up
Liq Posted October 12, 2017 Author Posted October 12, 2017 1 hour ago, rediii said: i can imagine liq wants to take part too? ^^ I would like to yes, but due to referee-Bias I cannot
monk33y Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 If you want this to be about skill. Why not use shop brought stock ships... With only playerside mods enabled... I'd make it... A choice of 6 ships, preset from certain docks. No op meta ships allowed... Just player skill...
monk33y Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 Personally I'd ban any live oak, white oak combos from this event. Make ship and player skill be king...
Mikocen Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, monk33y said: Personally I'd ban any live oak, white oak combos from this event. Make ship and player skill be king... I dont think live oak white oak i such a strong combo, but its only my opinion... 1
tonyxyx Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 [X] - Sverige Player 1: Yordi Player 2: Elite92 Player 3: Tony Reserves: CapitanFindus Strenght and Honor! 7
Liq Posted October 12, 2017 Author Posted October 12, 2017 6 hours ago, Havelock said: Will there be any limitation regarding upgrades? Imo some too expensive or too hard to get mods should be banned, in the end even a team of poor players should have the same winning chances as teams with high economical backing. For me that would mean no: - Cartagena - Elite perm mods (everything that needs a skillbook to build) - Elite regular mods (everything that needs to be crafted from multiple skillbooks) Maybe Bovenwinds or Bridgetown? Not sure. TBH I dont think we should put the limits too high. Teams should be able to customize the ships to their likings, and additionally it's going to be very hard, if not impossible, to make sure ALL the ships in battles actually do not have any of the banned refits. Someone can send me a screenshot of a Trinc without Cartagena refit, but that doesnt mean I can be 100% positive that he is going to use that specific setup. 1
Liq Posted October 12, 2017 Author Posted October 12, 2017 6 hours ago, monk33y said: Personally I'd ban any live oak, white oak combos from this event. Make ship and player skill be king... I also do not think we should ban certain builds.. Sure, Live Oak White Oak is super tanky, but it's not practical, at all. In the right hands a teak - white oak build will do much better. IMHO more options are better in this case. 1
Jorge Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 Well, as we want to learn from the best pvp gaming players we also aim for the tournament. [HYDRA] : -Jorge -CeltiberoJuanjo -Durruti Reserves: Emkay, Dshiro (Although he still doesn't know ....XD) Jajajajajajaja... 2
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