Knobby Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, ChristenTrash said: what does pablo provide? entertainment except when he has to work night shift, then it's boring Edited March 7, 2018 by Knobby
qw569π³ Posted March 12, 2018 Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) Statistical Institute of Inagua Weekly report 05/03/2018-11/03/2018 (prev report) Revenue by nations Nation Tax Cost Revenue Max Captured Ports Pirates 17 794 391 49 641 531 -31 847 140 16 Danmark-Norge 23 958 453 77 809 435 -53 850 982 28 France 63 214 550 130 132 915 -66 918 365 48 Great Britain 29 138 818 123 778 825 -94 640 007 45 EspaΓ±a 28 317 753 76 693 238 -48 375 485 55 United States 16 756 353 33 415 342 -16 658 989 11 Sverige 122 305 188 171 767 399 -49 462 211 56 Verenigde ProvinciΓ«n 8 337 732 48 305 674 -39 967 942 18 Russian Empire 28 032 993 41 896 324 -13 863 331 17 Kingdom of Prussia 24 208 647 43 828 938 -19 620 291 17 Commonwealth of Poland 2 141 910 11 800 000 -9 658 090 9 Daily reports are available at this link Β Revenue by clans (highest revenue) Clan Tax Cost Revenue 7UP 10 640 020 4 757 755 5 882 265 GJ 7 616 944 4 685 541 2 931 403 HREKK 11 991 739 9 072 130 2 919 609 EDR 28 113 056 26 915 759 1 197 297 ALOHA 10 988 615 10 352 837 635 778 VCO 632 423 400 000 232 423 R0GUE 1 230 491 1 029 108 201 383 RUBLI 3 963 469 4 132 251 - 168 782 PPP 3 095 413 3 609 036 - 513 623 MAD47 255 291 800 000 - 544 709 Revenue by clans (lowest revenue) Clan Tax Cost Revenue DNP 10 528 982 47 552 303 -37 023 321 CABAL 15 804 706 49 671 409 -33 866 703 CH 3 067 553 25 407 860 -22 340 307 PERVS 2 556 706 23 873 269 -21 316 563 CBC 4 363 580 24 951 348 -20 587 768 RSC 14 769 547 33 926 022 -19 156 475 SLRN 1 422 221 20 420 000 -18 997 779 VLTRA 9 435 707 26 673 190 -17 237 483 SH 83 418 17 000 000 -16 916 582 XOXO 2 502 573 16 000 000 -13 497 427 Revenue by ports (highest revenue) Port Tax Cost Revenue Cartagena de Indias 23 550 016 9 765 001 13 785 015 Esteros 20 807 551 8 942 262 11 865 289 Little Cayman 11 199 016 4 957 755 6 241 261 Little Harbour 9 114 130 4 490 617 4 623 513 La Navasse 10 165 783 5 669 891 4 495 892 Nassau 10 038 584 5 625 338 4 413 246 Saint John's 9 549 389 5 564 814 3 984 575 Basse-Terre 7 616 944 4 685 541 2 931 403 Saint-Louis 7 697 572 5 009 268 2 688 304 Santo Domingo 6 066 153 3 970 465 2 095 688 Β Edited March 12, 2018 by qw569 2
Havelock Posted March 12, 2018 Posted March 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Graf Bernadotte said: Less than 2 million losses per day? Russia is still one of the most successful nations in the game Β Poor rediii. How will he make 7 millions every day? But the worst is hachiroku. He has to organize more than 13 millions each day. That is when the joke turns sour. Prussia, which shall be the new Russia has higher losses with less ports than us. "It's the economy stupid." (Bill Clinton) Β If you would know how to read statistics you would see that HRE has positive income and today is on 3rd place of top owning clans as well as our sister clan HREKK on 6th place. Furthermore rediii is just an port battle commander (a very good one btw) and is not involved in clan economy. I'd figure you know that because it hasnt changed since you left HRE several months ago. Same goes for EXILE, HachiRokus clan. It owns 1 port for VMs i guess and you have yet to explain how that one port loses 13 million each day. It shouldnt be possible by game design so if you discovered a bug pls report it (you can do it via F11 ingame btw, very helpful when actually trying to make the game better). 1
Guest Posted March 12, 2018 Posted March 12, 2018 4 hours ago, Graf Bernadotte said: Less than 2 million losses per day? Russia is still one of the most successful nations in the game Β Poor rediii. How will he make 7 millions every day? But the worst is hachiroku. He has to organize more than 13 millions each day. That is when the joke turns sour. Prussia, which shall be the new Russia has higher losses with less ports than us. "It's the economy stupid." (Bill Clinton) Again - as I've stated before... You can make between 2 and 3 millions for 25 mins of sailing.. Hardly something to make a fuss about..
Havelock Posted March 14, 2018 Posted March 14, 2018 Hey @qw569, i took a look at the spreadsheet today to monitor my clans balance but noticed that the numbers are way off. Some ports make more than a million negative income which shouldnt even be possible (eg Marigot). Maybe todays hotfix hello kittyed something up. 1
qw569π³ Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 7 hours ago, Trashlock said: Hey @qw569, i took a look at the spreadsheet today to monitor my clans balance but noticed that the numbers are way off. Some ports make more than a million negative income which shouldnt even be possible (eg Marigot). Maybe todays hotfix hello kittyed something up. corrected. It's funny. @Ink said in this topic that We will review this question after game release but we cannot provide any guarantees at the moment. But Devs decided to add port timer cost to API data Π.Π«. ΠΡΠΈ Π΄Π²ΡΡ ΠΊΠΎΡΠΌΡΠΈΡ ΠΊΠΎΡΠ°Π±Π»Ρ ΡΠΎΠ½Π΅Ρ 2
Roronoa Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 On 13.3.2018 at 12:17 AM, Lars Kjaer said: You can make between 2 and 3 millions for 25 mins of sailing Teach me, master.
Captain Liquido Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 On 13-3-2018 at 12:17 AM, Lars Kjaer said: Again - as I've stated before... You can make between 2 and 3 millions for 25 mins of sailing.. Hardly something to make a fuss about.. How do u do that then?Β Β
Guest Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 10 hours ago, Captain Liquido said: How do u do that then?Β Β Β 10 hours ago, CaptainSparckles said: How it is possible ? Trading?Β Β 10 hours ago, Trashonoa said: Teach me, master. Christiansted area - buy spanish goods in all the former spanish ports - sail to CS - sell.. you make between 2x-3x in profits.. Ez gold and since the reinforcementzone covers almost all the ports it's with very low risk. Same is the case for Sweden, the Dutch, The pirates - and with a bitΒ longer sail the french and the brits.. Only nation that has to sail for an extended time in OW without magical protection is the US and the Spanish.. If you don't want to sail to capitals and the sharks in those waters, there's 25 or so ports that consumes national goods same way as the capitals.. EZ gold..
Tomasso il Fortunato Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Lars Kjaer said: Β Β Christiansted area - buy spanish goods in all the former spanish ports - sail to CS - sell.. you make between 2x-3x in profits.. Ez gold and since the reinforcementzone covers almost all the ports it's with very low risk. Same is the case for Sweden, the Dutch, The pirates - and with a bitΒ longer sail the french and the brits.. Only nation that has to sail for an extended time in OW without magical protection is the US and the Spanish.. If you don't want to sail to capitals and the sharks in those waters, there's 25 or so ports that consumes national goods same way as the capitals.. EZ gold.. Delete this reply,Β nobody have to see this route ! I just did screenshot.Β
Guest Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, CaptainSparckles said: Delete this reply,Β nobody have to see this route ! I just did screenshot.Β It's the same for practically all the capital areas.. You can basically print your own gold..
qw569π³ Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, CaptainSparckles said: Delete this reply,Β nobody have to see this route ! I just did screenshot.Β don't forget about tax rate which will eat your income. So your revenue=sell_price*(1-tax/100)-buy_price*(1+tax/100) For example. You buy a cheapest one Parisian Furniture in Saint-FranΓ§ois and sell it in Gustavia for the most high price. so your revenue= 615820*(1-10/100)-165309*(1+10/100)=554238-181840=372398 loss due to tax=615820*(10/100)+165309*(10/100)=61582+16530=78112 Edited March 15, 2018 by qw569 1
Guest Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 On 15. marts 2018 at 11:06 PM, qw569 said: don't forget about tax rate which will eat your income. So your revenue=sell_price*(1-tax/100)-buy_price*(1+tax/100) For example. You buy a cheapest one Parisian Furniture in Saint-François and sell it in Gustavia for the most high price. so your revenue= 615820*(1-10/100)-165309*(1+10/100)=554238-181840=372398 loss due to tax=615820*(10/100)+165309*(10/100)=61582+16530=78112 Except - first off - time spent. The sail from Saint-Francois to Gustavia is too long and too risky. Secondly u don't take the item that nets the largest pr item income, u take the item that nets the largest income pr weight unit. True that tax cuts into ur profits but four indiamans still carry a larger surplus than you can ever get in the same timeframe from either PvP or PvE.. And the profit is larger if your clan owns either the departure point and/or the destination point..
Guest Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Graf Bernadotte said: Do you really wanna continue to explain us how to make profit on trade? Then learn first about the difference between turnaround and profit. After that you should not only talk about margin per ton but also calculate it for Parisian Furniture. You would reach the result then that Parisian Furniture is the most profitable trade good per ton as well. That's why qw569 took it as example. Finally you should learn that there are only very few ports besides the capitals where you can sell Parisian Furniture with good profit. Santo Domingo and Cartagena are two of them. Making twice the tax profit is no real option for a clan. The trade run between Saint Francois and Gustavia is one of the safest on the map. You only have to sail east and pass La Desirade. Out of sight of the islands you sail north and turn west on the height of Gustavia. That's ten minutes sail in danger zones. On the rest of the oneΒ hour sail you won't see anybody. Where did you find a trade route with more profit in less time? The only problem will be that competition is probably enormous and will eliminate most of the profit. Qw569's example was very well choosen. Since he has an idea of what he's talking about. Next time give him a like and don't try to correct him without having a clue. Β Β As I said - Gustavia - Saint-Francois.. Bigger risk, longer sail, lower profit pr time spent. Take a closer tradegood when you go swede Graf.
Sven Silberbart Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 47 minutes ago, Graf Bernadotte said: ..Historical Artifacts at St. John.. totally wrong
Knobby Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 Graf, could you please try to argue your point without all the condescension? Would make it much easier for ppl to actually agree with you.
vazco Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) All - knowing @Graf Bernadotte is a Master Trader now, nice There are trade runs which give you much more gold per ton and per minute (which is the actual value you're interested in, as tons don't matter) than Parisian Furniture. Why would I share them with you or this forum though? Use your brains, maybe you'll find them. If not, it's OK, not everyone can figure it out.Β You're a great diplomat, you can always get back to this profession.Β Just don't insult others because of your ignorance.Β Edited March 17, 2018 by vazco 3
Guest Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 11 hours ago, Graf Bernadotte said: Guess you would tell us about this wonderful trade good which gives you more profit per ton and sailing hour than Parisian Furniture, only if it would exist. You can buy Textile Machinery at Codrington. HalfΒ profit per ton and half of sailing time to Gustavia but same risk. Malabar Teak at Basseterre-Town or Historical Artifacts at St. John have a much lower margin per ton and can't compete.Β Why should I explain my trade route to you? - the question is: what is the fastest and easiest way to make gold? - answer: trade. 10% tax rate at both points of the trip doesn't change this and IF your clan owns one point then it's only 10% in all. Prices for Textile Machinery in Codrington is at 122.000 and for Parisian Furniture at 250.000 at SaintΒ Francois. That shows clearly Swedish traders don't need your noobish advices and compete already about the rare opportunity to make some good and fast money.Β I wasn't giving advice to swedes per se but in general. The risk for each trade run to Gustavia or any other capital is to enter the safe zone. You cannot lower this risk. There are always hunters nearby. At prime time more than in the early morning.Β Wrong. I wonder why you wanna turn each thread in this forum into an exposition of your ignorance. So far I thought you need to fight me under all costs for your reputation. But why to counter qw569 as well? Could it be that you really think you're smarter than everybody else in this matter because you own an Indiaman?Β The principle doesn't only go for the indiaman. The principle is general - time wasted trading vs profit is all that matters. And atm the indiaman simply carries more cargo than any other good. Return on topic. Explain us how you wanna finance PB timers with trade runs with proper arguments and reasonable examplesΒ or keep the bullshit you're talking. You're only confusing beginners. They will be disappointed when they find out that your advices lead them into bancrupty and quit the game therefore.Β Graf - You're an idiot. Normally I just ignore you since the saying goes true - "Never argue with an idiot since he'll drag you down to his level and beat you on experience". I don't care wether ppl heed my advice or not - I make millions whenever I want/need it. Easy gold.
vazco Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Graf Bernadotte said: The next mate who wanna explain us that he makes billions in this game with easeΒ (...) who can't explain why his nation get's night-flipped today, because they cannot afford PB timers for their ports. (...) Not to be missunderstood. There is enough money in this game. If players would donate enough of their income PB timers could be paid easily. But players prefer to spend millions for copper plating, Cartagena Caulking Refit, PvP marks and other stuff offered for their personnel benefit instead of supporting their nations in port defence. I guess you have the answer for your question already, and you only write to get more attention We don't care about ports. Maybe Russia does. We don't need timers, as we can get back ports that we loose, or do without them. We just care about the battle itself. Why throw away the money?... Btw, your info about turnaround is a bullshit. You can have a good turnaround eg. by selling fine fabrics, or even buying and selling goods for the same price, however you won't earn much. You need to optimize how much you earn in time. Β To translate into something you would understand - it's not important how many people you convince to hate you and your nation, it's important how many people will hate you and your nation in a given fraction of time. By pissing off enough people in short enough time, you create a perfect shitstorm to destroy your nation. It's the same with trade, however there it works in a positive way - the more you earn in a shorter amount of time, the better.
vazco Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Graf Bernadotte said: Don't care if you call it bullshit or not, as long as you agree. I don't agree with your statement that "The more turnaround the more profit you can make", and I think it's you who doesn't understand the time factor. It's ok though, not everyone has to be good at trade.
Guest Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Graf Bernadotte said: Mate, you don't explain us how to trade, you tell us the story about winning the jackpot in the lottery and tell us after, that it is not luck but skill. Maybe you should work on your vocabulary for insults as well. There is more than idiotΒ you can use. What's about fool, sucker, jackass or schmock? Β Idiot seems to be the best applicable in terms of semantic meaning. Fool, sucker, jackass is all slang that can be used with different connotations.
Tac Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Graf Bernadotte said: Your limited vocabulary shows your simple reasoning. Since you refuse any advice your thinking and language will never make it out of underclass. Β Probably no problem for you. Since you feel quit well being a Swedish doormat. Encouraging you to get out of that hole seems to be unsuccessful. You say it like it's a bad thing.
Fenris Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 Always funny reading the posts here. Big entertainment
vazco Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 6 hours ago, Graf Bernadotte said: The limitating factor of this business isΒ the shortage of goods one can buy. Yes, I can see how this can be a problem for an inexperienced trader. For those who know the market, turnaround doesn't mean a lot. Trade can give the best profit per minute in this game, just as it should be. It just takes some effort to find trade routes. Inexperienced traders are better off spending their time finding profitΒ elsewhere.Β
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