Corona Lisa Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 "How the world works for dummies" written by Graf Bernadotte 3
vazco Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Graf Bernadotte said: There are three basic factors in economy: work, land and capital. Time is only a part of work. Those are factors for production, not for trade They're also no longer valid for all types of production any more. 2 hours ago, Graf Bernadotte said: You only joined this discussion to find a possibility to proof me wrong. You won't succeed since I never discuss about things I have no clue about. You basically discuss about things you don't have a clue about You claim that a "turnaround" is the key to profits in NA. Let me explain it plainly: Trader A buys Fine Fabrics for 100 MLN, sells them for 120 MLN. He has a "turnaround" of 120 MLN. Great! Proffit? 20 MLN. It takes him only 1 week to do this, great! Trader B buys good for 10 MLN. Sells them for 60 MLN in a single day. Proffit? 50 MLN. He has a "turnaround" of only 60 MLN though. According to Great Graf, it's bad. You prefer to be trader A. I prefer to be a trader B. Let's be those different traders, however please don't rub your ignorance into faces of other people on this forum. Btw, I guess you ment to say turnover instead of a "turnaround". 2 hours ago, Graf Bernadotte said: I would be the first praising you for finding out how this works. Sure, you would. You will have to figure this out on your own though. I could spend my money on port timers, but what for? I could support a few timers, however I'd rather prefer to spend it on upgrades, ships, or even more useful things like bounties.
King of Crowns Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 23 minutes ago, Intrepido said: We can rename the thread to caribbean trading records. At the end, we are playing Naval Capitalism. there is a lot Russia could learn from capitalism. maybe a good thing for them. 1
qw569😳 Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) imho There are three nation (Russian Empire, Kingdom of Prussia and Commonwealth of Poland) which can't ignore payment for timers. Not setted timer will increase chance to lose all ports. Enemy can capture ports when defenders are sleep. I would like to know if nation loses all ports then is still playable or not. Edited March 19, 2018 by qw569 1
vazco Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 56 minutes ago, qw569 said: I would like to know if nation loses all ports then is still playable or not. How do you define playable? I think your question can be already answered.
vazco Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Graf Bernadotte said: But finally you agree again in my basic proposition. People won't spend their time in game to make money for paying PB timers a nation needs to protect it's most important ports. We need a better tax mechanic, that you're forced to spend more for public interest instead of buying selfish goods for ridiculous prices I don't agree with you on a basic level - we don't need timers. We need to be able to access RvR content in prime time, which timers prevent. We don't need extra tax mechanisms either. I won't comment your other scribbles in which you show your economic ignorance. It's plainly visible for others in my previous post, thus I reached a goal. You definitely won't admit you made a mistake - it would be foolish to presume otherwise btw. I think I know why people dislike you so much: 2 hours ago, Graf Bernadotte said: In your example you forget 2 hours ago, Graf Bernadotte said: But finally you agree You presume too much and you put words into people's mouth just to create an illusion you were not proven wrong. This I identify as the main irritating factor.
qw569😳 Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 20 minutes ago, vazco said: How do you define playable? I think your question can be already answered. Let's imagine. You lose all ports and lose access to the Admiralty, and therefore you can not convert Combat/PVP marks. With these facts, do you still continue to play for this nation?
vazco Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, qw569 said: Let's imagine. You lose all ports and lose access to the Admiralty, and therefore you can not convert Combat/PVP marks. With these facts, do you still continue to play for this nation? Me personally - I wouldn't have an issue with this. I know that a Commonwealth could survive this as well - they would use 1 or 2 alt traders to craft all the ships for them, and get their ports back up in some remote area of the map. Loosing all ports usually is a symptom of a nation falling, not it's means to a fall. It's rare that a nation builds so much hate everyone focuses on them, it's also rare for even a focused nation to loose all ports for longer than a week or two. Even fallen nations rarely loose all their ports (eg. Prussia a few months ago, now Commonwealth and to some extend Russia). A nation will sooner fail due to lack of military victories and lack of fun battles in game, than due to loss of ports. Edited March 19, 2018 by vazco
Batman Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 1 hour ago, rediii said: So to support devs we should noport impossible nations. But everytime Brits go against Poles server is like "y u no do dis!" 4
Jorge Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 3 hours ago, Batman said: But everytime Brits go against Poles server is like "y u no do dis!" Go for Prussia, brave ... Ahhhh no, they fight
Batman Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, Jorge said: Go for Prussia, brave ... Ahhhh no, they fight Who is Spain actually fighting? I heard sinking AI pays you good money for all the useless ports. 1
Knobby Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/19/2018 at 10:41 AM, qw569 said: Let's imagine. You lose all ports and lose access to the Admiralty, and therefore you can not convert Combat/PVP marks. With these facts, do you still continue to play for this nation? Do you have last weeks report?
qw569😳 Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) I'm waiting report from Statistics Institute of Lorimers. I really want to see what my competitors are capable of. Hey @Banished Privateer hurry up Seriously, the report will be ready in a couple of hours Edited March 20, 2018 by qw569 1
qw569😳 Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) Statistical Institute of Inagua Weekly report 12/03/2018-18/03/2018 (prev report) Revenue by nations Nation Tax Cost Revenue Max Captured Ports Pirates 15 834 654 56 004 441 -40 169 787 14 Danmark-Norge 25 751 116 78 932 258 -53 181 142 28 France 49 356 473 121 594 061 -72 237 588 46 Great Britain 36 321 758 125 395 665 -89 073 907 47 España 41 972 023 64 678 127 -22 706 104 56 United States 21 311 750 26 236 844 -4 925 094 12 Sverige 164 336 673 151 582 112 12 754 561 56 Verenigde Provinciën 8 793 469 49 534 900 -40 741 431 17 Russian Empire 20 859 180 35 050 575 -14 191 395 15 Kingdom of Prussia 30 270 046 48 902 094 -18 632 048 19 Commonwealth of Poland 4 864 300 7 241 164 -2 376 864 10 Daily reports are available at this link Revenue by clans (highest revenue) Clan Tax Cost Revenue HRE 83 490 427 58 942 610 24 547 817 7UP 20 355 552 7 434 111 12 921 441 HREKK 14 396 580 8 935 464 5 461 116 CABAL 43 674 008 40 237 192 3 436 816 GJ 2 242 594 848 257 1 394 337 LIONS 1 741 719 684 900 1 056 819 RAM 3 524 436 2 551 673 972 763 DRAKE 8 636 181 8 228 800 407 381 MRF 2 323 818 2 135 000 188 818 ARM 3 714 494 3 633 410 81 084 Revenue by clans (lowest revenue) Clan Tax Cost Revenue DNP 11 380 748 46 464 460 -35 083 712 CH 1 620 964 29 160 000 -27 539 036 PERVS 2 213 936 22 630 000 -20 416 064 CBC 4 756 957 24 080 000 -19 323 043 SH 130 463 16 000 000 -15 869 537 ER 7 376 925 22 180 221 -14 803 296 SLRN 1 521 326 16 200 000 -14 678 674 SMOKE 3 779 076 16 920 000 -13 140 924 XOXO 3 328 886 15 000 000 -11 671 114 VCA 964 313 12 600 000 -11 635 687 Revenue by ports (highest revenue) Port Tax Cost Revenue Cumaná 36 805 241 7 997 192 28 808 049 Cartagena de Indias 21 580 778 7 065 435 14 515 343 Little Cayman 20 197 740 6 734 111 13 463 629 Nassau 15 566 370 5 536 099 10 030 271 Santo Domingo 12 668 823 4 523 455 8 145 368 Saint John's 12 206 464 4 705 464 7 501 000 Saint-Louis 12 586 487 5 210 876 7 375 611 Esteros 11 104 486 4 527 728 6 576 758 La Navasse 8 177 158 4 720 858 3 456 300 Pinar del Río 3 914 509 826 458 3 088 051 Edited March 20, 2018 by qw569 2
Tac Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 Cabal institute of Panzer trading,Cumana is where it’s at baby, nothing special to see here move along now please .
Knobby Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 Better to contact Jointventure to consult how to a make a port massively profitable, even with only 10% tax...
Jorge Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 On 19/03/2018 at 4:15 PM, Batman said: Who is Spain actually fighting? I heard sinking AI pays you good money for all the useless ports. JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA, as you said, IA's.... 2
qw569😳 Posted March 21, 2018 Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) The top 15 ports with the highest average tax income for 77 days of observation and the maximum tax income of over 600k. Port Average Tax income Maximum Tax Income Days 600k-800k 800k-1kk more than 1kk Cartagena de Indias 5 609 480 15 676 657 0 0 77 Esteros 1 777 980 7 187 374 1 1 42 Little Harbour 1 628 570 8 721 053 2 5 33 Flatts 1 414 845 3 909 581 11 13 46 La Navasse 1 226 278 2 707 178 7 11 46 Puerto de España 1 192 501 2 400 447 11 16 46 Santo Domingo 1 162 685 3 944 680 15 11 35 Nassau 1 155 938 3 274 289 14 11 44 Saint John's 1 138 962 2 889 653 11 12 42 Cumaná 832 270 8 884 291 8 5 10 Oranjestad 713 318 2 331 393 19 11 15 Saint-Louis 709 209 4 103 441 8 8 17 Pointe-à-Pitre 703 167 4 073 684 9 11 15 San Agustín 691 137 1 695 398 22 16 9 Les Cayes 650 511 2 002 055 8 12 16 All ports with the maximum tax income of over 600k for 77 days of observation. Ordered by average tax income Port Average Tax income Maximum Tax Income Days 600k-800k 800k-1kk more than 1kk Cartagena de Indias 5 609 480 15 676 657 0 0 77 Esteros 1 777 980 7 187 374 1 1 42 Little Harbour 1 628 570 8 721 053 2 5 33 Flatts 1 414 845 3 909 581 11 13 46 La Navasse 1 226 278 2 707 178 7 11 46 Puerto de España 1 192 501 2 400 447 11 16 46 Santo Domingo 1 162 685 3 944 680 15 11 35 Nassau 1 155 938 3 274 289 14 11 44 Saint John's 1 138 962 2 889 653 11 12 42 Cumaná 832 270 8 884 291 8 5 10 Oranjestad 713 318 2 331 393 19 11 15 Saint-Louis 709 209 4 103 441 8 8 17 Pointe-à-Pitre 703 167 4 073 684 9 11 15 San Agustín 691 137 1 695 398 22 16 9 Les Cayes 650 511 2 002 055 8 12 16 Río Seco 626 619 4 480 405 9 4 12 Philipsburg 619 083 3 543 785 12 8 9 Pitt's Town 584 746 2 146 957 10 6 13 Saint George's Town 559 605 2 124 203 12 5 7 Arthur's Town 539 549 2 003 788 14 7 8 Little Cayman 524 237 4 359 610 0 0 12 Bridgetown 506 274 993 482 12 9 0 Baní 496 656 1 701 249 9 7 5 Maracaibo 483 598 3 020 717 15 1 4 Ays 478 314 3 098 616 5 3 12 Saint Marys 474 010 1 631 515 3 8 5 Grand Anse 443 544 1 060 231 9 4 7 Basseterre Town 437 240 1 891 515 7 4 4 Samaná 427 115 1 964 602 12 0 6 North Inlet 418 133 1 465 256 10 3 2 Island Harbour 381 655 1 997 562 3 3 7 Grand Turk 374 557 776 836 7 0 0 Puerto del Padre 368 752 2 243 536 7 2 5 Atwood 364 867 1 128 889 4 1 1 Carriacou 358 541 2 135 470 6 1 3 Parrot Cay 356 912 898 871 6 2 0 Little River 355 709 2 295 946 3 5 1 George Town 342 146 1 194 424 7 5 1 Ragged Cay 321 105 1 477 871 3 1 2 Saint-François 316 990 1 205 001 7 3 3 La Orchila 310 887 748 601 1 0 0 Santa Marta 309 464 3 787 559 1 1 9 Kingstown 302 119 941 812 1 1 0 Basse-Terre 288 350 4 879 751 0 1 3 Jérémie 277 924 2 319 330 2 3 5 Amalienborg 267 641 2 490 706 4 1 3 Azua 267 217 720 372 2 0 0 Soto La Marina 251 337 898 343 6 3 0 The Settlement 250 545 982 420 6 2 0 Marsh Harbour 245 553 1 197 392 2 4 2 Bensalem 245 060 795 990 2 0 0 Codrington 242 516 930 002 6 1 0 Puerto Plata 236 824 1 884 488 4 1 2 Pinar del Río 234 616 711 025 5 0 0 Bonacca 234 354 810 966 0 1 0 Blondel Cay 227 486 799 836 4 0 0 Sabina 225 691 1 019 626 1 1 1 Jobe 221 081 3 271 335 4 2 2 Kemps Bay 208 199 793 119 2 0 0 Somerset 206 535 741 208 5 0 0 Cap-Français 205 727 871 929 3 1 0 Islamorada 205 545 2 324 202 3 1 3 Terre-de-Bas 205 184 871 823 2 1 0 Morgan's Bluff 205 087 3 728 752 3 1 3 William's Bay 204 965 724 756 3 0 0 Kidd's Harbour 203 120 731 371 5 0 0 La Blanquilla 203 015 6 113 640 1 0 2 English Harbour 197 158 1 415 109 0 0 1 Campeche 196 864 956 669 2 2 0 Fort Baai 193 285 2 529 816 3 2 2 Manzanilla 186 348 610 939 1 0 0 Sant Iago 181 345 737 661 1 0 0 Cabo Cañaveral 176 595 2 431 963 1 1 1 Arcas 176 485 608 161 1 0 0 Harbour Island 176 304 709 823 1 0 0 Baracoa 175 275 733 503 1 0 0 Plymouth 171 984 715 011 1 0 0 Bluefields 171 865 858 551 2 1 0 Key West 159 635 720 233 2 0 0 San Marcos 158 413 644 406 1 0 0 Nuevitas 156 783 734 812 1 0 0 San Juan 147 363 649 541 2 0 0 San Mateo 139 849 2 430 208 0 0 2 Coral Bay 137 462 804 393 0 1 0 Conil 137 076 871 759 1 1 0 Turneffe 132 389 1 250 557 1 0 1 Apalachicola 126 350 1 288 538 0 0 1 Nippes 125 459 938 655 1 1 0 Santa Fe 123 436 687 041 2 0 0 George's Town 119 110 878 457 0 1 0 Manataca 109 680 974 865 1 2 0 Corrientes 108 260 889 171 0 1 0 Puerto de Nipe 106 303 958 538 0 1 0 Cabo de la Vela 101 620 2 595 671 0 1 2 Batabanó 100 418 663 674 1 0 0 Píritu 96 440 808 528 0 1 0 Santanillas 88 851 955 721 0 1 0 Port-de-Paix 86 308 915 718 0 1 0 Trinidad 86 113 736 529 1 0 0 Guayama 81 047 926 552 1 2 0 Sale-Trou 71 425 2 241 115 0 0 1 Jacmel 65 349 722 862 1 0 0 Road Rocks 64 659 604 657 1 0 0 Portobelo 58 936 705 821 2 0 0 Almirante 56 748 1 247 128 0 0 1 Ambergrease Caye 54 157 1 871 298 0 0 1 Ayamonte 52 072 951 799 0 1 0 Mobile 44 896 1 088 744 0 0 1 Lagunillas 43 517 1 178 427 0 0 1 Aguadilla 41 805 613 129 1 0 0 Barranquilla 40 592 1 893 685 0 0 1 Sandy Bay 34 225 617 420 1 0 0 Misteriosa 34 128 750 005 1 0 0 Bimini 33 727 904 016 0 1 0 La Tortuga 27 058 613 905 1 0 0 Mimbres 24 418 612 002 1 0 0 Edited March 21, 2018 by qw569 5
qw569😳 Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) Statistical Institute of Inagua Weekly report 19/03/2018-25/03/2018 (prev report) Revenue by nations Nation Tax Cost Revenue Max Captured Ports Pirates 22 621 545 41 676 563 -19 055 018 17 Danmark-Norge 28 885 536 70 289 977 -41 404 441 30 France 48 867 072 111 868 370 -63 001 298 44 Great Britain 35 733 007 77 724 909 -41 991 902 47 España 37 642 679 49 855 198 -12 212 519 54 United States 30 596 827 32 121 915 -1 525 088 16 Sverige 139 649 357 139 394 331 255 026 55 Verenigde Provinciën 9 984 705 42 049 161 -32 064 456 17 Russian Empire 22 001 106 29 733 561 -7 732 455 15 Kingdom of Prussia 34 137 522 45 628 590 -11 491 068 20 Commonwealth of Poland 3 568 720 10 200 000 -6 631 280 10 Daily reports are available at this link Revenue by clans (highest revenue) Clan Tax Cost Revenue HRE 82 670 397 59 153 583 23 516 814 7UP 12 529 431 5 580 594 6 948 837 RSC 17 389 620 10 693 180 6 696 440 HREKK 14 016 690 8 849 322 5 167 368 WIE 11 508 820 8 248 583 3 260 237 LIONS 2 729 552 1 174 161 1 555 391 PGP 2 004 489 700 000 1 304 489 GOD 1 987 468 700 000 1 287 468 RIVAL 2 280 137 1 027 641 1 252 496 DRAKE 7 334 796 6 319 655 1 015 141 Revenue by clans (lowest revenue) Clan Tax Cost Revenue DNP 12 854 478 43 810 000 -30 955 522 CBC 4 839 079 24 080 000 -19 240 921 PERVS 2 288 566 20 370 000 -18 081 434 CH 1 242 476 18 110 000 -16 867 524 CABAL 21 205 222 33 558 519 -12 353 297 ER 10 132 261 22 226 959 -12 094 698 VCA 1 332 199 10 733 002 -9 400 803 SLRN 2 021 764 11 264 433 -9 242 669 VNM 1 060 377 9 600 000 -8 539 623 BCC 448 913 8 400 000 -7 951 087 Revenue by ports (highest revenue) Port Tax Cost Revenue Cartagena de Indias 26 356 530 8 109 075 18 247 455 Nassau 16 047 945 5 027 634 11 020 311 Little Cayman 12 521 923 4 880 594 7 641 329 Saint John's 11 957 109 4 579 322 7 377 787 Cumaná 11 280 168 4 318 519 6 961 649 Santo Domingo 10 425 194 4 305 119 6 120 075 Saint-Louis 9 092 068 4 468 225 4 623 843 Puerto de España 9 484 245 5 146 959 4 337 286 Pinar del Río 4 992 205 1 048 701 3 943 504 Saint Marys 9 651 760 5 937 455 3 714 305 Edited March 27, 2018 by qw569 1
Guest Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 Lmfao... Has DNP ever NOT been in the top of the clans that looses most gold per week? Thank god I'm the richest guy on the server..
Guest Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 Just now, Banished Privateer said: DNP also covers now the costs of Macao, thank you @Lars Kjaer !!! Yeah I reheeeally screwed up there.. Wanted the battle - not the bill.. Would you guys like it open for all so you can get anything out of the port?
Guest Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 18 minutes ago, Banished Privateer said: @Lars Kjaer sorry bro... 4m worth cargo + 2m worth Indiamen Then you really must be buying your ships in the wrong place.. and the cargo shouldn't be more than 2.5m.. But profits from trading are so large we'd have to lose 4 indiamans every day.. and we lose about 1 a week so.. Richest man on the server - and we're one of the clans that can pay 40 millions in upkeep every week without issues..
Fenris Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 On 27.3.2018 at 3:48 PM, Lars Kjaer said: Thank god I'm the richest guy on the server. I dont believe you are.
Guest Posted March 31, 2018 Posted March 31, 2018 20 minutes ago, Banished Privateer said: 44 Ivory Coast = 4m gold in Santo Domingo or Christiansted. Thanks a lot! Except it was 33..
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